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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 07:54 AM Original message |
We still have a BIG MSM problem |
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cadmium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
1. For sure. check out dailyhowler archives |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:11 AM Response to Original message |
2. Media didn't tap Obama to discuss North Korea nukes - they turn to him for |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:14 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Obama is not Edwards - He is actually savvy on these issues. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:18 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Media was able to do that in a vacuum where most didn't know Kerry. Now |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:25 AM Response to Reply #4 |
12. It's all about dispelling the Media/GOP meme |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:27 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. But folks like my Mom don't hear you, Prosense |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:37 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. The same thing |
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_dynamicdems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 10:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
53. Most people who vote don't care about politics. They don't want to |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:29 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. We agree, but the story has to be told, and it will not be told by a |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:36 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. That's campaigning |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:41 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. They had a narrative in 03. They described who Kerry was. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:44 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. But it was a victory! |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:44 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. But it will be MUCH harder this time, because he lost in '04 |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:47 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. The fact |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 09:25 AM Original message |
People forget that McGreevey outing was August 12 which took up ALOT of oxygen |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
39. Yes, there was indeed some bad luck thrown in as well. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
47. Not to mention that after Reagan, we had 2 or so weeks |
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_dynamicdems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 11:05 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. Clinton's book. That annoyed the Hell out of me. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:20 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Exactly! |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:24 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Agree with you 100%. But the sheep still want the prom king. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:26 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Still, the MSM |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:29 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Then we've lost already. GOP had a media problem some years |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:43 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. I don't know |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:49 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. I was saying that if you concede that the MSM will be anti-Democrat |
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cadmium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 09:11 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. yes |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 09:28 AM Response to Reply #29 |
37. It's not conceding |
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_dynamicdems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 11:01 PM Response to Reply #29 |
54. No matter their bias, they respond to viewer pressure. The market will |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 10:11 AM Response to Reply #24 |
44. Exactly! And if we regain some power in Washington, the media will |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 03:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
48. The Webb stuff is extremely nasty |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:14 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Webb wrote about what he saw in Vietnam and Thailand |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 04:18 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. I know - Skinner did a great job debunking it |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 10:06 AM Response to Reply #17 |
43. MSM is starting to pay attention to the blogs. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:11 AM Response to Original message |
3. Of course we do - But it is a circular problem: |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:19 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. You're not being unfair -- I think WEL had a good idea about a story |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:24 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Story is ANTI-CORRUPTION and OPEN GOVERNMENT that respects citizens |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:25 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. What's the name of the movie, though? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:29 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. The LAST American Freedom Fighter |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:32 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Not a bad working title |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:45 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Yes, |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:28 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. May be, but in this case, HE HAS TO TELL IT. |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 05:04 PM Response to Reply #16 |
51. Exactly n/t |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
5. Beachmom, no offense |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:22 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Um. I'm the only person I know who thinks John Kerry is the best |
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cadmium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 09:19 AM Response to Reply #9 |
32. very true problem |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 09:20 AM Response to Reply #9 |
33. I agree and I assume that Kerry is doing his best to lay the |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 08:58 AM Response to Reply #5 |
30. I think that Mass and Beachmom have a point |
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cadmium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 09:23 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Thank god for video archives |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 09:33 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Not to mention - they are more accesible than in 2004 |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 09:39 AM Response to Reply #30 |
40. I understand the point, but |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 12:05 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. It not being 2004 goes both ways |
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TayTay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
35. All fights are uphill fights. |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 09:45 AM Response to Reply #35 |
41. I'm talking about this moment in time and the MSM situation |
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TayTay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 09:51 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. It is irrelevent |
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kerrygoddess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 02:01 AM Response to Reply #41 |
56. There's a trend tracking company that |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
36. Well to balance out your post, my mother -a former Republican, |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
46. I agree |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-27-06 07:46 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. You can dream about vision for America all you want - then terrorism and |
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