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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 11:57 AM
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Insane attack on both Kerry & McCain over normalization of relations with Vietnam by wacko RW'ers.
Edited on Tue Feb-20-07 12:03 PM by _dynamicdems
And they are still harping on the 180 as if it had never been released. What alternate universe do these freaks live in?

It's called -Cao-'s Blo-g (punctuation inserted to keep this from being picked up in a search).I'm not posting the link, but you can find it through Google. Here's a sample:

John Kerry and John McCain did a terrible disservice to those who were MIA in Vietnam. The two of them sat on the Senate Select Committee for POW/MIA Affairs and buried evidence that there were survivors, in order to rush normalized relations with Vietnam. I don’t know what the heck McCain’s excuse for doing that is; but Kerry’s cousin, C. Stewart Forbes had quite a bit to gain from it. Forbes ended up brokering a billion dollar deal between Hanoi and Colliers International, a large company based in his home state of Massachusetts.



There is another link to the original smear (from 2004)on the site. There is also a blogburst list of roughly 70 blogs asking for JK's 180 to be freed. Nutball right is still alive and kicking, apparently.

As crazy as this accusation is, it should be countered. Not on these sites, but we need a response for when they bring this crap here or KOS. One thing is certain, this will be a sure fire way to expose Fre*pers because no Dem or liberal would pay attention to this crap.

Note: this started in 2004, but the post I'm referring to was posted today so they are still actively swiftboating.

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dwahzon Donating Member (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:18 PM
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1. That blog
does it every Tuesday. They go back and dig up whatever they can or cross link to other winger blogs that are in their little circle who've all agreed to post about JK's 180 every Tuesday. We've responded to them before. Facts and reality make no difference in their delusional rhetoric.

Quite frankly they're doing a great job of demonstrating just how irrelevant they are by continuing to attack someone who is not running for the presidential nomination. It's more like it's just an old habit, a rut, they're in and they don't have enough brains or creativity to confront reality as it really is.

Since it's been going on for literally years and it's very obvious that they are grinding an axe based on delusion, I don't think any MSM is likely to take them seriously. Not since Boston Globe et al already put it to rest.
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:29 PM
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2. You mean if it's Tuesday, it's attack Kerry day? They're truly sick.
I'm sure I've seen this blog before but it had to be a long time ago. It's strange that they are still at it. You're right: they are in a rut. Unfortunately, this crap is now being picked up in blog alerts from Google. Google blogs is fairly new so this wouldn't have been spread around as much before. It's just really ugly.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:49 PM
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3. This is old news
And old smears. Why post this in public again?
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 01:02 PM
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4. Apparently they've never stopped. And their post from today is already in Google Groups alerts.
If it weren't for the fact they post this again every Tuesday, as Dwahzon mentions above, I'd guess it was because they were planning a new attack on McCain in case he gets too close to the Republican nomination. But apparently, they just re-post because they are a bunch of crackpots.

The problem is that this crap is now getting a new audience because it's coming up in the blog alerts.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 01:47 PM
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6. This will have absolutely no effect on Kerry's reelection effort in MA
So it's pretty much irrelevent nonsense for crackpots. JK isn't running for president, so it's just right-wing blather that won't affect his continued tenure in the Senate. The voters in MA know Kerry, and they stopped buying into this crap a long time ago.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 04:40 PM
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7. Suppose, at some point, he is nominated as SOS or some other larger
role in a Democratic lead White House, wouldn't these types of accusations be used against him by Republicans that would need very little ammunition to vote against recommending him out of committee?
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 08:21 PM
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8. That kind of RW wingnuttia is believed by a steady 30%
who are going to believe it no matter what. These people make shit up. Then they get it printed in some RW nutball publication that is bankrolled by their money guys, then point to the publication as proof that the info is 'real and truthful.' It's not. It's still made-up bullshit.

It would never survive cross-examination in the Congress. The only defense against made-up bullshit is the truth. The truth has been said and heard. These lies are going to be repeated because this is all Wingnuttia has, a firm reliance on the protection of lies.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 01:21 PM
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5. I saw that charge in 2004 and it is disgusting
I can't believe understand how those people even sleep at night. These lies have to have devasted the families of the MIA. There are far fewer MIA from Vietnam because of that process.
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