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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:46 PM
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Anyone here know about this: draftjohnkerry08.com
Someone left the link in the comments of the Dem Daily early this morning.

http://www.draftjohnkerry08.com/

The photo on the website is from the April 22 Faneuil Hall speech.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:53 PM
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1. I know nothing,
but clearly this person has exquisite taste.

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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:53 PM
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2. Absolutely
I agree.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:55 PM
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3. Excellent website. Wishful thinking n/t
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 12:06 AM
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4. Funny -- kinda makes it feel like a REAL draft
Best line here:

Please join me in asking Senator Kerry to reconsider his decision. It’s in our best interest, even if it is NOT in his!


There is also a blog page -- I hope the person blogs stuff, which would be fun to read. I can't really endorse the site, however. Kerry has made his decision, and it came from his heart as to what he wants to do. Still, the website is very nice, and I'm glad that person put it up.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 10:41 AM
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12.  Kerry wouldn't do it if he thought his veteran friends' health concerns
were still an issue and Congress was not getting anywhere on Iraq.

I understand his priorities and focus at this time.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 02:42 PM
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16. I agree on his Beachmom
Edited on Sat Feb-24-07 02:44 PM by TayTay
I think that there are things you have to do when you run for President that are constricting. I think that it is possible that this country needs people who are unresticted in what they can say at this time in order to bring sanity back to the fore. I think Sen. Kerry himself said it best back on April 22nd of last year at Faneuil Hall:

We must insist now that patriotism does not belong to those who defend a President's position-it belongs to those who defend their country. Patriotism is not love of power; it is love of country. And sometimes loving your country demands you must tell the truth to power. This is one of those times.

I agree. This is a dangerous and singular time in American history. We need every strong voice we can find to stand up for principle and for the values that America really should treasure and promote. The foreign policy of this nation is horribly off course and we are pursuing a path that has serious consequences for us and for the world. We must have unfettered and unbowed voices speaking truth to power at this time. This is the most patriotic act and service that can be rendered, bar none. Those who do this now are heroes in every sense of the word; they are acting to save America from the worst impulses of 'leaders' whose policies are destroying what it took over 225 years to build.

Half of the service members listed on the Vietnam Memorial Wall died after America's leaders knew our strategy would not work. It was immoral then and it would be immoral now to engage in the same delusion.

Our strategy is not working. Everyone knows this. Everyone, even George W. Bush, by his own admission, knows this. So, what higher calling is there than to prevent more names from being chiseled into a future Iraq Memorial Wall? No one, not a President, not a Cabinet Secretary, no one, could render higher service to this nation or be more of a patriot than those who act to prevent a needless sacrifice of lives in pursuit of a policy we know is not working. Real patriotism is indeed love of country, not power and we need all the true patriots we can find now.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 09:30 PM
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21. I agree with you on this
especially as in one interview, Kerry explained that things he says now - which will be what he would say even if he were running, won't be dismissed as politics.

I assume this was a really tough decision - but a final one. If he re-entered, I assume it would put all the Kerry people who have migrated to others in odd positions. Unless something very drastic precipitated Kerry's reconsideration, it wouldn't work. (It's sad though as it's clearer that the position we thought might occur - Edwards and Obama being seen as too inexperienced and Hillary being seen as too Clintonish - would have left a big space for Kerry. Not to mention, in the midst of nastiness, a candidate criticized as too honorable and decent might look pretty good.)
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 11:34 PM
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23. I think he closed that door, after a great deal of thought
and the wise imput of good friends who had his best interests at heart. (No, real friends who genuinely had his best interests at heart.)

I have listened to Senator Kerry's speeches from last year, especially the ones in which he brought up moral issues. Those were passionate and heartfelt speeches. I think he meant what he said in them. I think some of the things he said were amazing and very, very true. I also think that some of them were, sadly, impolitic. Sometimes you can be a statesman and a politician. Sometimes you can't. This might be one of those times. I think he country needs the statesman and the person who brought up the moral issues. I think we are desperate for that right now.

It often happens that those who build great structures never get to live in them. Sad, but true. And it doesn't mean you should stop building them. Oh Lord, not at all.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 12:04 AM
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24. I believe you're right about it being final.
And at this point I believe he made the right decision.

There's not an ounce of coyness about the man - and I don't think there's a chance he will change his mind. I agree with everything you said. I also think that, looking at the horror this primary battle is turning into already, he must be relieved to be free of the burden of watching every word he says.

What is up with the earlier-and-earlier primary dates. Can't someone give the states a time out and set things in order? I hate what is happening to the process.
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 07:20 AM
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25. I hate it, too
They keep saying that the DNA can't control when the states hold their primaries, but can't someone do something beyond holding out the feeble promise of more delegates if they wait? That "carrot" sure hasn't made a fig of difference so far.

Yeah, and as disgusted as I am with the current choices for 2008, and as disappointed as I am not to have JK as a candidate (or, more to the point, president), I do think he made the right decision, and I'm on the same page as you in guessing that he must be relieved to be free of the nonsense, and to have the chance to do something real, NOW, to save the country (and baseball, too!).
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 05:48 PM
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28. I agree
Especially, when after bowing out, there was the post you posted here from the Kerry blog where his sister, Peggy, had told a friend that she hoped he didn't run. The Kerry family seems to be incredibly close and they have been there for him since he was young and knew even then how exceptional he is. Senator Kennedy looked incredibly sad speaking after Kerry bowed out. It was clear he knew what was lost.

I really wish those awesome Faneuil Hall speeches had more distribution. They do show why he has enormous potential as a statesman - which if you think of it was the role he had when he first became famous. If you look at all the times in his career where he took strong unambiguous but totally impolitical things - like fighting the Contras and fighting BCCI, the surprise is that he ever got the nomination. The question is whether as a statesman, not President, he can persuade enough people to turn from policies like the messes we made in SE Asia, Central America and the middle east.

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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 12:06 AM
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5. I bookmarked this website!!
Shhhhhhhhhh.... don't spread it around. Let's all wait until closer to the primary's and then spring a surprise on all the doubting Thomas's!!!! By then everyone will be sick of all the "front runners" and maybe we can still get a Kerry/Obama ticket!! Especially now that he's showing what he can really do when he's not worried about campaigning and trying to please the "Unpleasables"??is that a word?? If no, I just coined it!!
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 12:11 AM
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7. I'm with you. n/t
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 12:09 AM
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6. I have heard mention of it. I have been meaning to go to the link and take a look. n/t
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Noisy Democrat Donating Member (799 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 12:13 AM
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8. Awesome :)
It's true that JK has his own very good reasons for deciding not to run, but it's great to have a place where voters can express their feelings about it, too.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 12:16 AM
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9. I agree
I'm sure he'd be flattered to know people still would like him to run. With the frontrunners tripping on themselves this early and Vilsack already out it's going to be a weird long year.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 12:27 AM
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10. I agree entirely. Even if JK doesn't take it seriously, I think he would be flattered
knowing people still recognize his abilities and leadership and would like to call him President. No harm done.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 12:35 AM
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11. Well
I know I certainly got a little chocked up this morning when I saw it.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 05:06 PM
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17. this cartoon struck a chord with me this morning:
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 05:44 PM
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18. LOL!
I can't feel much of anything but distaste for all of them at this point.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 06:30 PM
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19. me too.
That's exactly how I feel about it!
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 06:31 PM
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20. yeah, that one gave me a laugh too!! n/t
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 11:28 AM
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13. This is nice to see.
Thanks for posting this. It just goes to show that there are many Kerry supporters out there who look at the field for 2008 and shake their heads.

Just yesterday, a young woman I work with said "Kerry should run. He's better than anyone else in the race." This shocked me because I'd never thought of her as being remotely political. She said she think's Obama is cocky and lacks experience (a bad combination) and that she dislikes Hillary but would probably vote for Hillary unless someone better, like Kerry, gets in the race.

And my sister and nephew have been saying "wait and see" about 2008 because they still think something could happen to change JK's mind. I don't see that happening, but it is nice to see that other people are thinking of him as President Kerry.

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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 11:48 AM
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14. Nice to know people are thinking these things
And I agree with your co-worker about Obama (though I'm more leery of Hillary than she is).
"Wait and see" is the best advice I can think of right now. If I'm sure of anything, it's that more surprises are ahead.
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 11:21 PM
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22. Surprises can be good.
:)

I'm rather leery of Hillary too.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 01:23 PM
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15. I'm not 'technologically savvy' enough...
...to do anything like this. But the words reflect my thoughts about the need for Senator Kerry to be President. :)
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 02:12 PM
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26. I don't know anything about it...except that I kinda want to find
the person/people who made it and make out with him/her/them.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 03:53 PM
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27. LOL! n/t
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