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louloulou Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 10:39 AM
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Kerry thread
I've got to run, but if anyone has time for this one it would be great:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/From_John_Kerry_Re_Swiftboating.html#comments
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:27 PM
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1. Good comments.
Thanks for the link. I hadn't seen his email yet, but was wondering yesterday when he'd speak out. I see I didn't have to wait very long.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:29 PM
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2. Here is a great post from there and one commenter is great too
I had suspected that Obama was saying something close to what Kerry was saying in 2004 about what to do going forward. The short quote the Clinton's used that there was little difference from Bush on this made no sense - except in the goal - a stable Iraq (which Bush said he was working towards. (Kerry clearly wasn't fo what Bush was doing - he wouldn't have called for Rumsfeld's firing if he was. But that was the Bush and media lie. Now we see the Clintons doing the same thing - but adding Obama.) This poster gives the entire Obama quote.

"Hillary said last night that Obama "said he agreed with Bush on the war in Iraq." Here are the actual facts: From the Chicago Tribune, July 27, 2004- Obama, a state senator from Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood, opposed the Iraq invasion before the war. But he now believes U.S. forces must remain to stabilize the war-ravaged nation--a policy not dissimilar to the current approach of the Bush administration. The problem, Obama said, is the low regard for Bush in the international community. "How do you stabilize a country that is made up of three different religious and in some cases ethnic groups, with minimal loss of life and minimum burden to the taxpayers?" Obama said. "I am skeptical that the Bush administration, given baggage from the past three years, not just on Iraq. . . . I don't see them having the credibility to be able to execute. I mean, you have to have a new administration to execute what the Bush administration acknowledges has to happen." Now how does that translate to Obama agreeing with Bush on the war?"
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:35 PM
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3. It's disgusting.
I only hope the backlash against them reaches tidal wave proportions, and shows up in the voting booth.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:39 PM
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4. I agree
This full quote places him with Kerry at that time - which makes sense. The Clinton quote was mystifying because though Bill Clinton was close to Bush at that time, Kerry wasn't and was frustrated when the media said it. (In an oblique way, that quote was also very secondarily against Kerry.)
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:54 AM
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5. I PRAY you are right
but i am too sickened to be optimistic :-(
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