Kerry on FoxNewsSunday today!

[MBS]

Looks pretty entertaining in Talking-Head-Land this morning!


FOX NEWS SUNDAY: John Kerry and John McCain

THIS WEEK with George Stephanopoulos: Jim Webb, Lindsey Graham, and Howard Dean

FACE THE NATION (CBS) : Dean

MEET THE PRESS: Bob Casey, Ed Rendell , Andrew Young and others.

LATE EDITION (CNN): John Cornyn , Christopher J. Dodd and Richard J. Durbin ; Rep. John P. Murtha; Robert Reich; and others

Also, the Tim Russert Show has Andrew Sullivan and Christopher Hitchens. In the last 10 minutes of the show (all that I managed to catch yesterday), they were dissecting HRC's campaign mistakes in a quite satisfying way. :evilgrin: At least in my hometown, the Tim Russert show, usually on MSNBC at 6 pm on Saturday, is also repeated on MS-NBC at noon Sunday. .

[Inuca]

1. Thanks for the heads-up

I wish Kerry and McCain were on at the SAME time, which I suppose they won't. Rendell is all over the dial all the time, Cassey is no match in barking power. And speaking of barking, I hope Webb will take a big bite out of Graham and his southern accented version of "yes, my friends, we ARE winning" (I actually DID hear Graham use "my friends" a few days ago, I started laughing so hard I almost drove into something).

[Luftmensch067]

2. MANY thanks for letting us know!!! n/t

[MBS]

3. I thought that JK was great

Chris Wallace is just the WORST (what must his father think of how his son turned out, I wonder???), but JK just kept coming back, coming back. I thought , "This guy is actually having FUN!" Chris Wallace thanked him for a "spirited" interview. :rofl:

[ginnyinWI]

4. like a cat with a mouse?

I didn't see it but I can imagine it. I'll try to catch the rerun in the early evening tonight. :)

[Inuca]

5. Catch it, it's definitely worth it

I don't want to spoil it for you :-), but let's say that Wallace was very obnoxious.

The only tiny problem I have what JK said is that at the end he said "the surge is working because...", I know exactly what he meant,and I'm probably splitting hairs here, but I hope that there will not be idiots out there (and I do not mean DU and the like) that will claim that "Kerry has said that the surge has been a success".

[wisteria]

6. I agree with that. He saved all his attacks for Sen. Kerry. McCain was given softball questions

and mild responses.

[ProSense]

7. JK was terrific

Think Progress has a piece up about the interview

[TayTay]

8. Fascinating interview.

I think the Senator was at his best on this show and that some of the questioning was revealing about the Repub fall campaign. Chris Wallace used a lot of "bait and switch" logic to try to defend Sen. McCain's positions on Iraq. He was laying down the lie that McCain was always a critic of the war as his baseline talking point. Sen. Kerry did not let him get away with this pre-controlling of the debate. Kerry challenged that base assumption and talked about McCain as being one of the people who thought the foray in to Iraq would be quick and relatively easy. John McCain was not a fierce critic of the war from the beginning, he was one with the neocons who wanted the war with Iraq no matter what.

I thought the most telling part of the interview was when Wallace tried to trip Kerry up by getting him to malign McCain's service. In brief, Wallace pulled a quote that Howard Dean had done recently that referred to McCain as a "blatant opportunist." Did Senator Kerry agree with this slander of McCain and how could he agree with it after all the complaints Kerry had made about the 2004 treatment he got from people who disrespected his war time service. Wallace pointedly brought up McCain's five and a half years of imprisonment and McCain's refusal to get an early release from that imprisonment as a sort of shield that meant that he had a moral "get out of jail free" card for everything else he has ever done in his life based on that. As Kerry correctly pointed out that is an insult to the intelligence and respect of any listener. (And morally repugnant to boot. Everyone hones what Sen. McCain went through in his captivity. However, it undermines the very theory of representative democracy to say that something that someone did 40 years or so ago excuses their behavior forever. McCain is still responsible for what happened in his political life, including the Keating Five affair and his votes on on a range of issues. He is not immune from proper criticism because of this. This is the RW at it's very worst, inserting false and insulting arguments into a debate in order to trap people into talking about anything but the subject at hand.)

[TayTay]

9. Links about McCain's "Flip-flops" on Iraq and other things

The Carpetbagger reported on that Charlie Rose Show interview that Senator Kerry brought up today
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/13746.html

Think Progress on the Nov 27, 2007 Charlie Rose appearance:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/mccain-korea-withdrawal/

John MCCain on Charlie Rose, 11/27/07. (Youtube video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6upepUb3h-c

John McCain on Charlie Rose, Aug 26, 2007 (YouTube video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6upepUb3h-c

[wisteria]

10. Thank you for all the links. I will certainly be using these. n/t

[Luftmensch067]

15. I finally just saw this

And I agree with your analysis, Tay -- I felt right away that Wallace was trying out GE GOP talking points and attacks. JK was ready for ALL of them, which was nice to see. Of course, not every RW media pundit will be as wildly inept and scattered as Wallace was! I mean, he was trying very hard to be relentless and trap JK, but he was so weak-minded and ineffectual that JK barely had to work to hit his ridiculous pitches out of the park. CW shifted talking points so quickly that they often didn't even follow logically.

Not a fair match in any way and JK was very clearly the classy, intelligent adult with the answers, while CW was the whiny kid trying desperately to win an argument with a different stupid tactic every second. To continue the analogy, CW looked like he was cranky and stupid because he was late going down for his nap, while JK looked like the patient, slightly appalled grownup, even a little amused at the bad behavior of a child having a tantrum.

At the end of the interview, JK had clearly made his points about the difference between Senator McCain and Nomination McCain and how wrong McCain has been on the war, as well as how strongly McCain has allied himself with a whole slew of catastrophically wrong Bush Administration policies, votes and decisions.

Great JK appearance in a fundamentally silly interview situation.

Edited to add that I loved that Obama was assumed throughout to be the nominee and also to thank you from me, too, Tay, for the links!

[JI7]

11. i didn't see the interview but it seems similar to the one he did before

i think it might have been around the time of the botched joke. but Kerry did well then also. i think in some ways Kerry has fun with these. he seems to know what expect from whoever is going to interview him.

[beachmom]

12. Transcript up. WOW. I missed it and I don't see a video (the Think Progress vid didn't work)

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,347034,00.html

He did great. He was fantastic. "Difference between nomination John McCain and Senator McCain". Yup.

[MBS]

13. I couldn't find video either, but

in searching , I did find an audio interview from Fox News, dated this Saturday (April 5) , which was also very nice. See http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html . Look for "Veteran Analysis"-- you have to scroll down about 2 or 3 rows. JK talks about Rev. Wright, Iraq, and the campaign (including an answer to a question about whether he regrets not running again). Like I said, very nice. This is a man who is comfortable with who he is, what he's doing, and what he's chosen, and it shows in his face and his voice and his energy.


Looks like nothing from April 6 (Sunday) is available yet. So maybe the Sunday interview will show up later.

[karynnj]

16. The video is there now

but the earlier one has scrolled off - but if you type in "Veteran Analysis" - you can get the audio of it - and it is as MBS says.

[MBS]

17. Thanks Karynn

With both the video and the above-mentioned audio interview, you can -- ahem-- add your rating of both.
Just saying. . ;)

[karynnj]

18. Good idea

[Inuca]

14. The way he framed McCain was great

very polite, of course, but firm and crystal clear. And when Wallace continued to badger him in the attempt to build into a mountain Dean's comment about McCain's opportunism, relating in a completely non-sensical way opportunism to McC's years as a prisoner, Kerry had the perfect (and the only possible decent) answer.