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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:37 PM
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i want Kerry to go after McCain
Edited on Tue May-27-08 10:39 PM by JI7
i'm getting tired of McCain's bs. he has used his military service in order to gain politically like JK never did. yet people always made mokes about Kerry talking about serving in Vietnam.

and now people are trying to make Obama getting the name of the concentration camp wrong into some big lie. it reminds me of the attacks on Kerry with the Christmas in Cambodia stuff. everything Kerry said was true and even had O'Neill talking to Nixon about being in Cambodia. yet the whore media never brought that up.

and now idiots on CNN are asking if this is going to hurt Obama like the sniper fire thing hurt Hillary. how are the two comparable in any way ? the media misleads and lies just by making these phony false comparisons.

i know Kerry is busy and especially with what has happened to Ted Kennedy trying ot deal with all of that in public and personally . i'm not demanding anything from him. just frustrated with the campaign and the media.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:26 AM
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1. Yes, I have dubbed the latest attacks "Higginsboating" after the boats
that began the invasion on D-Day. Apparently, Vietnam vets should no longer feel bad about the swiftboating -- ANY WAR is fair game. So now they attack Obama, for mangling the name of the KZ camp his great uncle liberated, even though the story remains the same. And it was very poignant:

(Hat tip Pirate Smile for this)

"I had a uncle who was one of the, who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps, and the story in our family was is that when he came home, he just went up into the attic and he didn’t leave the house for six months, right. Now obviously something had really affected him deeply but at that time there just weren’t the kinds of facilities to help somebody work through that kind of pain. That’s why you know the, this idea of making sure that every single veteran when they are discharged are screened for post traumatic stress disorder and given the mental health services that they need, that’s why its so important."

This is what angers me once again about all of this. The Right attacked a veteran -- sorry, their attacks on Obama amounted to an attack on his great uncle who is an elderly man now -- and one who saw horrors most of us, even after viewing the pictures and documentaries, cannot possibly understand. I found the Wiki on the camp Obama's great uncle liberated:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohrdruf_forced_labor_camp

I was really struck what General Eisenhower had to say about that camp:

The ghastly nature of their discovery led General Dwight D. Eisenhower, Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces in Europe, to visit the camp on April 12, with Generals George S. Patton and Omar Bradley. After his visit, Eisenhower cabled General George C. Marshall, the head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in Washington, describing his trip to Ohrdruf:

. . .the most interesting--although horrible--sight that I encountered during the trip was a visit to a German internment camp near Gotha. The things I saw beggar description. While I was touring the camp I encountered three men who had been inmates and by one ruse or another had made their escape. I interviewed them through an interpreter. The visual evidence and the verbal testimony of starvation, cruelty and bestiality were so overpowering as to leave me a bit sick. In one room, where they were piled up twenty or thirty naked men, killed by starvation, George Patton would not even enter. He said that he would get sick if he did so. I made the visit deliberately, in order to be in a position to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations merely to 'propaganda.'


I agree that Kerry needs to get involved at some point as an effective surrogate against McCain. I am sure there is a way he can do it that shows honor but manages to get under McCain's skin. McCain's attack on Obama the other day for not serving in the military was just disgusting. Do people really have short memories? McCain backed Bush over Kerry!!!! Obviously, military service is not important to him, and he can't pretend it is important now.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:08 AM
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2. I am emabarassed to admit
but I am somewhat surprised and disappointed in the way McCain has behaved recently. Not a huge surprise, but still... His recent statements were not only low-class and unfair, but also (and I guess this is a good thing) incredibly stupid. And about that getting under the skin that you mention, I think it is pretty clear that Obama is already doing an excellent job at that, probably better than anybody else could do. When they will finally confront each other in a debate, it should be a fascinating contrast, even if McC manages to keep his calm (one can always hope he won't :-)). It will be WAY easier for BO to face him for many, many reasons, including that Clinton is indeed an effective and careful debater most of the time, which McCain does not seem to be.
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