The top ten

[drdon326]

A former evangelical minister and now an observant Jew, Gavriel Sanders tells us ten things Christian Zionists ask him about Jews and Israel.



1. How is it that the people that gave the world the Bible live more like the world than the Bible?

2. I thought Israel was to be a light unto the nations. Why are they trying so hard to be like and liked by the nations?

3. If, after 2000 years of dispersion and prayer for restoration, Jews finally have a homeland: Why don't more Jews go home? Why are they giving away the land?

4. It the title deed for the Temple Mount, Joseph's Tomb, and the Cave of the Patriarchs is contained in the Jewish Bible, how can the Israeli government give away these treasures of heritage to an enemy?

5. If pidyon shuvyim (ransom of a captive Jew) is a priority amongst Jewish values, why isn't there a greater outcry to free Jonathan Pollard? After his unfair sentencing and 20-year imprisonment, isn't he as much a prisoner of Zion as was Natan Sharansky?

6. In a "land for peace" exchange, the Jews give up tangible turf that can't be returned for an intangible pledge that can't be guaranteed. Why?

7. If Jews are so committed to saving Jewish lives, why have more than two million Jewish babies been aborted in Israel since 1948? How does that square with replacing the 1.5 million children lost in the Holocaust?

8. Why do liberal Jews insist on making peace with an enemy that has not renounced its commitment to the destruction of the Jewish state? America would never do this. Is the "New Israel Fund" really a "No Israel Fund"?

9. Why do so many Jews insist on bending the Torah to fit their cultural preferences rather than adjust their lives to live by the Torah? Isn't God's will more important than a Saturday golf game? Isn't preserving faith and family more important than eating seafood?

10. Why does it seem that so many Jews hate their own religion or have so little knowledge of their own Bible? Most evangelicals know the Jewish scriptures better than most Jews.

http://www.jewsweek.com/bin/en.jsp?enDispWho=Article%5El1647&enPage=BlankPage&enDisplay=view&enDispWhat=object&enVersion=0&enZone=Stories&

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interesting perspective

[Colorado Blue]

1. You know what, this is thought provoking. Some of the

questions, I can openly say I disagree with - such as #7. I do not, as a feminist, see a fetus as a baby. And I think that women aren't primarily or even essentially breeding machines and the fundamentalist Christian line on that subject bothers me. And I have NO problem with being a secular person!

HOWEVER, maybe because of the brutal "conversations" on I/P, I'm beginning to wonder about #'s 6 and 8. We're being made to feel ashamed of Israel, even doubting whether it should exist, after all it's Hurting The Palestinians. Others would have us believe we are COLONIZERS, purveyors, oy, of the holocaust. At best, we are USING the holocaust to give ourselves and excuse to hurt the Palestinians.

But yesterday, having been advised on I/P that a paper recording a certain speech by Heykal Pasha to the UN in 1947, openly threatening Jewish populations in Arab lands, was in fact neocon propaganda, I decided to do some research.

It reminded me that Jewry has lived continously throughout the M.E., including in Israel, since Biblical times. Moreover, that population has itself been living a sort of apartheid - allowed to practice our religion but forced to live and dress separately, never really being accepted.

And, the expulsions of hundreds of thousands of ME Jews really puts a different light on the whole refugee question. It can't be seen as a one Arab, one Jew sort of exchange - but it points out the undeniable fact that people who have lived in the neighborhood since day one are not colonizers and they can't, by definition, be committing rascist or apartheid acts.

I'd also forgotten the influence of the Nazis on the ME.

Having said that, one doesn't see how a just solution can be reached without helping the Palestinian people secure a homeland. It is too ironic that they HAD one in their grasp, in 1948.

But I'll tell you what, I fear, I DREAD, the sense that so many forces seem arrayed against the achievement of that peace. No doubt, some are coming from within. But far more are coming from Europe, from the surrounding states - even from people whose ill-wishes take flight in cyberspace.

I'm worried. And I'm worried that "liberal" seems to mean that we can't support Israel, or that we can't support America.

[Colorado Blue]

2. PS, I hope I haven't strayed over into I/P territory but the

post did mention it:)