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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:37 PM
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Why?
Why does the Democratic party hate Hillary? Why did Ted Kennedy and John Kerry push an untested, unvetted rookie Senator to the forefront when the Democratic party FINALLY had a very viable women candidate? What is the hidden agenda?

I have decided that if Hillary does not get the nomination I will not work the polls, donate money to or otherwise work for the Democrats until there is a female candidate. It will take me a very long time to forgive the Democratic party for this stunt.



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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:58 PM
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1. I do not know--really I do not. When Kennedy did that gala national hupla
I was stunned. I really was.


and you are right----it was at a point when Hillary was very very viable.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:00 PM
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2. do you find it as strange as I do? n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:47 PM
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7. yes, i do-the symbolism of handing over the mantal to the new** folks; the
old and new.
i have read this explanations----but not "get it" i just do not--when as you say they had a viable candidate fight in right of them.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:22 PM
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3. I have a feeling it isn't Hillary they hate but
Bill. And to get to Bill they go through Hillary. I guess he must have pissed off an awful lot of them. I have no idea why or how.

Here is another thing that pisses me off big time: I remember I used to listen to Randi Rhodes and Bill Clinton could do no wrong by her. She worshiped the guy. Now the Clintons are pieces of shit as far as she's concerned. Why? I don't get it.

I sometimes think this whole Obama craze is like the movie "The Invasion of the Body Snatchers." Once reasonable people now bear no resemblance to their former selves. It's like only a few of us have the gene or whatever it is to resist and have retained our sanity. And the rest of them are bat shit crazy. My God. I want to wake up from this horrible nightmare and find out that we are all still normal Democrats.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:12 PM
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4. Well, Hillary just tore into Barack in Cincinnati.....
about the health care brochure he sent out. She called him out big time.

Back to the topic at hand.....I'm with you. It's like half of the country misplaced it's brains. Just like in 2000 and 2004 except it was bush then and Obama now.

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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:57 PM
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5. It's both
There is animosity towards Hillary for the fact that she called for him to apologize after the botched joke. There's also a feeling that both Clinton's did not do enough to support him in '04, because she was planning to run. It took me some time to get past these feelings as a Kerry supporter and get she was the best person for the job.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:56 PM
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9. glad you are with us.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:00 PM
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6. I will vote for Obama because he is better than McCain- but it stops right there.
I can't imagine supporting him.

I almost blame Obama for dividing the Dem party.
Him and his 'I am the only one who can bring change. Everyone is just too corrupt'.
BS!

I actually feel like Obama swiftboated her - and Edwards, Dodd, Biden by his constant
bashing of people with experience.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:55 PM
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8. i live in state where i can feel good--my vote and few others i know writing
in hillarys name will not cause the lost of the state.

at least that is now.

but,the way i feel at this moment----i wonder if that would make a difference. time will tell.

i think no women will run in a long time after this election. just my feeling.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:47 PM
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12. As this primary has shown they sure go after women who decide to bust open the glass ceiling. They
will "allow" us to be Senators, Congresswomen, even Speaker, but when it comes to the most powerful office in the world you best have a third leg to stand on. Today I was thinking about Bhutto and Pakistan. How ironic that she was actually elected and served there as their prime minister. Despite what eventually happened to her there, she won an election in a Muslim country as their ruler. Isn't that ironic?
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:36 PM
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10. I'm right there with ya.
And I amy not vote for them either.

I am just not interested in another four years of "all hat no cattle." No... Hill did NOT say that about Barack. But I am saying it now.

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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:39 PM
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11. Good old boys club as usual. Don't want a woman to get what they couldn't.
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