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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 10:03 PM
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If Gitmo suicides="asymmetrical warfare", I must ask this question:
What the fuck was the early SHOCK-AND-AWE campaign against Iraq? Let's talk asymmetry here, OK?

Mac
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 10:06 PM
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1. Assymetry is fine, as long as we're winning.
Like any playground bully, when we start losing, we're the first ones to start crying for the referee.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 10:13 PM
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6. Assymetry got us to Bagdhad .. cakewalk! Big-bad assemetry.
Then reality kicked in. There is no such thing as assymetry once the shock-and-awe ends. That is exactly why this cabal wants to use nukes on Iran.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 10:09 PM
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2. suicides = asymmetrical warfare ?
Think about the level of inherent evil in the mind of the motherfucker who came up with this one....these are nazi's on steroids that's what these fuckers are.....
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 10:18 PM
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7. And just think about those Jewish bastards...
...who marched into the gas chambers, just so they could paint the Nazis as a bunch of monsters. Talk about PR! Poor old Hitler got blindsided on that one. Them Jews sure were crafty.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 10:18 PM
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8. That is just what I thought
the worst part is that these evil men have no clue what they have done. We took these muslims and never charged them with any crimes held them and now they are dead. So now these Nazis on steroids have made Martyrs on steroids.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 02:21 AM
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15. hell, think about the inherit incompetance...
Edited on Tue Jun-13-06 02:22 AM by lvx35
They think somebody hanging themselves is an act of warfare? Damn, I hope these guys never have to defend my country against a REAL threat.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 10:11 PM
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3. I guess they mean "fair and unbalanced"??
Edited on Mon Jun-12-06 10:13 PM by TahitiNut
How dare those Hadith people let the Marines shoot infants!?!?!! It's "unfair and unbalanced"! Unfair! They did it as a P/R ploy, obviously ... waging assymetrical warfare against our Dear Leader. (We must kill a hundred for every imaginary tear that falls from his holy lash.) Oh! The whorer! The whorer!
:puke:
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 10:12 PM
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4. That was assholemetric.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 10:12 PM
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5. I have never really thought about it before, but wasn't our gig
(Vietnam) asymmetrical?

Maybe it was the Mother of Asymmetrical Warfare.
Unto which was born this Monster.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 10:22 PM
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10. Viet Nam: Absolutely asymmetrical T.I.T.!
Asymmetrical in fire-power. The VC and NVA were asymmetrically superior in motivation and fire-power (relative to the lies the briefing officers told us!). We were good, but we lost that war. Period.
Mac
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 10:29 PM
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12. Vo Nguyen Giap to Macnamara, "It was our country"
And that's the Way It Was.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 10:43 PM
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14. Seek out the film "The Fog of War."
Take your B/P meds B-4-U-Watch. Report back to Mac when you have seen "The Fog of War."

Mac
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 10:21 PM
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9. Warfare has been assymetrical....
...since the colonial insurgents shot at Regular British formations from behind trees......filthy terrorists...
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 08:57 PM
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16. Trafalgar was asymmetrical, too.
As was Dien Bien Phu. The list goes on. When asymmetrical warfare is aggressive and unprovoked, it is a war crime. In fact, here are the Nuremberg indictments against Germany's Nazi leaders. Ring a bell?

1. Conspiracy to commit crimes against peace.
2. Planning, initiating and waging wars of aggression.
3. War-Crimes.
4. Crimes against humanity.

But nobody cares any more. Except us. And it seems that it is driving us crazy. It is certainly taking a toll on my mental health.

Mac


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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 09:28 PM
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17. I wondered at the time of Vietnam: why doesn't anyone ever really
THINK about how the colonists beat the British?? They thought we fought unfair; so what, we won. We were in our own country fighting for something we believed in and we won.

Apparently the people running the war from London were pretty incompetant as well. And didn't the British generals in the colonies also do some pretty stupid things??

And, I think, they KNEW they were such a major military power that there was NO WAY some little podunk group of peasants could beat them.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:28 PM
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18. Good point, oft made.
I'll defer to the historians for the final read on that question.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 10:29 PM
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11. The dumbass admiral who said that . . .
That admiral should eat a bullet. That'd show those bloodthirsty terrorists a thing or two, wouldn't it?
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:37 PM
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19. Yeah! Admiral, let's give 'em a taste of their own medicine! LOL
:rofl:
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 10:37 PM
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13. Assymetirical
Another way of saying Uneaqual?

And We are the hypocrite country with TONS of nukes,chemical bombs,biological weapons galore(ft Detrich) A big ass gorilla insisting on beating the shit out of a dirt poor country(Iraq) full of traumatized messed up people,that already had saddam put in charge and a long santion that killed off many people,Saddam was a fascist puppet The US (and Rumsfelt was THERE) put Saddam power in Iraq for the US's purposes,more accurately the corporaste US saddam disobeyed the corporates and so the corporates in the guise of the United States reacted when thier puppet tyrant threatened to upset the "asymetical" Market that was already rigged to ensure dollars were how oil is sold...."Asymmetrical" means beating the shit out of the weaker country by the bully corporate mecenaries posing as if they were a country and using the said country's citizens and tax base as corporate henchmen and mafiosos...
What do you think Full spectrum domination means..

Every war will be assymetrical,as in a unequal battle to subjugate the world's weaker nations the corporations want to feed upon to'grow'..So,those with the most nukes,the worst sociopathic tendancies, and the most deployable loyal cannon fodder.. wins a dead poisoned planet with a few traumatized broken souls left ,some willing to cringe to any'master' in exchange for a little food security and compassion.Others too sick to express thier rage at the desrving targets in thier mansions and purified environments.While the winners live in extravagant guilded castles with the plunder of all human civilization to use,as they wait for the stragglers to die off,as they use the knowlege of the ages to change thier bodies and treat the vunerabilities until they can live forever in good health with thier favorite slaves and allies like absolute dictators in thier feudal realms...
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