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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 10:38 AM
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TYPICAL OF A KENNEDY, PATRICK TO PLEAD GUILTY TO DUI
Edited on Tue Jun-13-06 10:42 AM by Jeffersons Ghost
In refusing to allow America to become a country of men, not laws, Patrick Kennedy makes a hard decision to rise above precedents set by drunken, friend-shooting, Cheney, who used his position to avoid prosecution.

In taking responsibility for his mistakes, Patrick proves he is a typical Kennedy.

In his desire to put the needs of his party and voters above his own, Patrick shows us how a typical Kennedy serves America.

The right can believe whatever makes them feel comfortable with the crooks they support but Patrick Kennedy irrefutably shows there is distinct difference between the parties.

http://www.thecemeteryproject.com/images/Photos/Kennedy,%20John.jpg
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 10:43 AM
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1. Yes He Does... but the GOP and the Media Will Attack Him Anyway
this is why principals will matter more than worrying about what is said. It's what you do and how you own up to your failings that builds respect in the long-run. Just keep in mind DU... the media is not going to piant a good picture of you no matter what you do, so make sure you do the right thing. In the end, people will know the truth. Those that don't will never know and keep voting GOP anyway, because they are Brainwashed.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 10:44 AM
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2. In other words, Kennedy is man enough to admit his mistake
Unlike any republican.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 10:45 AM
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4. you got it Bluzmann57. HOW ABOUT SOME VOTES FOR THIS ONE?
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 10:45 AM
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3. It could not of happened on a worse day
Giving the media plenty of ammunition to compare Kennedy to Rove... I don't like it, but there it is in a nutshell..
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 10:56 AM
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11. somehow, I see a subtle strategy in this... it's a big news day
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 11:08 AM
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15. What ammunition?
Kennedy makes a mistake, gets help, owns up to it.

Rove apparently weasles his way out of a perjury charge.

Where is the spin there?
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 11:31 AM
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20. When they announce it back to back
and then throw in a story about how Rove is demanding an apology from the Democrats. They are definitely spinning the heck out of these two separate stories.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 11:31 AM
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21. that pretty much sums it up, Virginia, thanks n/t
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 10:46 AM
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5. Who the heck is THAT?
This is how I remember Patrick...

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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 10:48 AM
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6. As I said before, remember "whatever makes you feel comfortable"
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 10:50 AM
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7. Shallow: Where did he get those gorgeous non-Kennedy eyes?
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 10:52 AM
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9. That's NOT Patrick Kennedy..... n/t
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 10:57 AM
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12. I thought it was an old picture of John Jr. Am I mistaken????
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 11:08 AM
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17. That's not John-John, but he's cute whoever he is...n/t
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 11:13 AM
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19. hmmm, when I searched google images for Patrick it came up...
but I took it for John Jr. He was the spookiest person in America for Republicans but now he's dead: go figure.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 11:50 AM
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24. It is probably "A" Patrick Kennedy, male model, or somesuch...
but not "THE" Patrick Kennedy of the OP.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 12:04 PM
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25. I never said or even thought it was Patrick. as I said several times...
I thought it was John Jr. Do you see a pattern in the OP and these posts that say the same thing about the photo?

I was showing a rich tradition of Kennedys, which came to untimely demise.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 12:10 PM
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26. it IS Patrick Kennedy; "A" Patrick Kennedy.... read this lol....
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 12:14 PM
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28. That's a different Patrick Kennedy.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 12:19 PM
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29. yep, read my post right above yours ronnykmarshall...
it was an honest mistake but it sure got some free kicks for a good Democratic message.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 08:49 PM
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33. Which would explain the eyes.
Who is he, however, and where can I accidentally bump into him?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 10:50 AM
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8. Oh please,
he's doing the right thing, and that's fine, but he hardly deserves accolades for it. This generation of Kennedys has had more than their share of legal troubles, and dubious excuses for behavior that isn't exactly admirable. Patrick himself was caught on tape abusing an airport employee, not to mention the trouble he had on a yacht a couple of years ago. He's human, as are all the Kennedys. They aren't saints, and not all republicans are monsters.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 10:53 AM
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10. who said the kennedys were "saints" and Republicans are "monsters?"
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 11:06 AM
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13. By the same token...
the "right" has made the Kennedy family into monsters of mythic proportions. They would pillory Patrick Kennedy regardless of his handling of the incident. He made a mistake, he's owning up to it, will the "right" give him credit for it? Doubtful.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 11:08 AM
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16. who cares what fools think? Only real people with real hearts matter...
this post isn't for thr trolls it's for people like you Virginia.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 11:07 AM
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14. Smells funny
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 11:10 AM
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18. LOL stepnw1f, you knew critics here would "smell funny" as you read the OP
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 11:37 AM
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22. That's why Dems will never win. Republicans lie their problems away
Edited on Tue Jun-13-06 11:37 AM by ComerPerro
so they never have to confront them.

Cheney and Bush both have histories of DUI and alcoholism, but all I ever hear from the right is how Ted Kennedy is a huge alcoholic.

This is only gonna make things worse.

It doesn't matter that the president and vice president have a history of driving drunk and that Bush was an alcoholic for 30 years. They've never pled guilty!
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 11:47 AM
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23. it will eventually matter. I only hope it matters while we still have...
some simblance of the America I know and love, ComerPerro.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 12:13 PM
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27. self-delete
Edited on Tue Jun-13-06 12:22 PM by DesertRat
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 01:16 PM
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30. Admirable would have been checking into rehab
before being caught and nationally embarrassed, not afterwards. Esp. if he's been through rehab a time or two before and is simply relapsing. He knows the drill.

There's little that can be said for doing what is necessary when it becomes necessary. That's doing what's required. By checking into rehab, he did the responsible thing, the thing needed for the courts to show leniency, and the thing needed to save face with his constituency at home. And, presumably, any honor within his family.

Assigning primacy to any of those motives is a judgment based more on politics and beliefs than on evidence. Repubs will say it's either the second or third motive that's *really* in play (or both), discounting the first; dems will say it's the first, and to imply it's either the second or third is calumny.

Were Kennedy's political leanings reversed, the motives are assigned by the two groups would also be reversed.

I have no judgment about Kennedy in this matter, and don't regard his seeking treatment to be related to his political views in the least.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 01:17 PM
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31. Admirable is checking into rehab at all
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 01:35 PM
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32. Limbaugh went through rehab.
On probation for abusing prescription drugs and doc shopping for them. If he completes probation, his record's expunged.

He went into rehab only after being caught; IIRC, he wasn't caught because he had traffic accident at 3 am, blitzed out of his gourd. He did the responsible thing, the thing needed for leniency from the courts, and what was necessary to retain face with his listening public. And keep his place with his employer, his 'family'.

Was his going into rehab admirable?

Sure, in some low-bar sense of the word. I withhold judgment on this matter, as well; I will accuse him of hypocrisy, since he also reportedly railed against drug abuse long and hard--even though railing against drug abuse is fairly properly, IMHO, a default position.
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