Smoking Area. Non-smokers advised not to enter.

[canetoad]

Health warning. You are now entering a smoking zone.


in_cog_ni_to, you suggested a smokers only thread - here it is. Ten to one there is an anti-smoker whining before the tenth post.

To those who ask why an educated, mature person smokes I answer that the most machiavellian and creative artistic and financial brains of the 60's and 70's spent trillions convincing me it was in my best interests.

Love ya all

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[mcctatas]

1. Got a light??

:smoke:

[canetoad]

2. Some bastard

took my lighter

[Swamp Rat]

3. Not a smoker...

but I am a joker, a toker, and a midnight poster. :smoke:

:D

[niyad]

4. funny that the native americans who use tobacco as a sacred herb and

grounding agent don't have any problems with it.

but then again, there is nothing like tobacco juice for killing aphids on one's roses.

[canetoad]

5. Ok

how many spittons full do you need for a standard rose?

[jmowreader]

54. No spittoons

Go to the grocery store and purchase Prince Albert in a one-pound can. If you'd like, call ahead and ask if they have it...then go off on them when they act all derisive toward you. Or you can use Bugler or any other brand of loose tobacco.

Go home and dump the Prince Albert into a wide-mouth jar. Add seven pints of water and one of rubbing alcohol. Let this sit for a couple of weeks until it looks like tea. Then add a capful of mineral spirits and strain out the tobacco.

You now have water with nicotine in it--so much nicotine it will kill a child, so you added the mineral spirits to make this smell so revolting no one would ever drink it.

Spray this on your roses and the aphids will drop.

[adwon]

6. All I can say

Ban my phone...less distraction anyway.

Ban my TV...irritating, but I'll get over it.

Ban my books...I remember most it anyway.

Ban my beer...I'm learning to like the sober me again anyway.

Ban my cigarettes...that's the day the revolution starts. :P

[magellan]

7. God bless rolling tobacco!

And the indian reservations that sell it!

[canetoad]

11. Can you buy chop-chop?

Blackmarket tobacco from the growers.

I think it get's it's name chop-chop here in Oz from the Asian tobacconists who were the first to sell it under the counter.

We have one tobacco growing area in Victoria. I believe the strictly regulated price a grower receives is about au $1,100 per bale. Selling the same bale to black marketeers returns ten times that much. You can't blame the poor bastards.

It is chop-chopped in Melbourne on notoriously dodgy guillotines and can be bought with a password or nod to certain tobacconists. Saddest story of all was One Armed Wal, president of the Tobacco Retailers Society was caught for selling chop-chop and fined half a million dollars to teach the black marketeers a lesson.

[magellan]

14. I don't think so

They sell well-known brands like American Spirit, Drum, Top...We get Zig Zag Lite. Our usual brand is Golden Virginia, but unfortunately it's only sold in the UK.

[Fuzz]

42. I roll my own too and have been enjoying

the D & R Winsail Platinum brand. I've tried a BUNCH and enjoy that the best right now. So much cheaper rolling my own I can splurge on good tobacco.

[Spider Jerusalem]

46. Their Ramback is WONDERFUL stuff.

Best handrolling tobacco I've had. Pure Turkish. No 'bite' at all in the lungs when you inhale, glorious flavour, and very aromatic. If you haven't tried it, I HIGHLY recommend it (you might also like the Ramback Gold, which is a blend of Ramback and Windsail Platinum).

[Fuzz]

47. Ya, tried that too, actually still have some

I make my own little mix and use some of that in it. :)

[Oeditpus Rex]

26. Yup

I switched to "natural" tobacco about a month ago. Would've done it a lot earlier if I'd realized the difference.

[in_cog_ni_to]

8. Ah! A place to smoke in PEACE!

:smoke: :beer:

[mcctatas]

10. If only I could find a way to get my computer hooked up on my porch...

if I want to smoke and type, I'll have to buy a laptop!

[Suziq]

49. Hey - Time for Smoke Break!

I am joining you, in_cog_ni_to. Gotta light?

:smoke:

Ahhhhhhhhhhh . . . . . .

[leftofthedial]

9. Pppphhhhewww!

It stinks in here. Someone open a window.


(just got in under the 10-post wire!)

[mcctatas]

12. :)

greetings Mr. Snarkypants! ;)

[Bluebear]

13. I posted in a thread adjoining it and now I REEK of smoke.

O8)

[REP]

22. You Must Be a Chain Smoker from the Way You Smell!

Doesn't my judgement burn???

[americanstranger]

109. Chain Smoking? I tried that...

couldn't keep the chain lit.

(Old Ernie Kovacs joke - even funnier because he actually was a chain smoker.)

- as

[Sammy Pepys]

115. What's the preferred brand in these parts?

I do enjoy Parliament Lights and Marlboro Lights.

[hogwyld]

119. I'm partial ther Sherman's MCD kings.

A little more costly, but for me, it's worth it.

[canetoad]

15. over 10 posts

still good humoured.Like going out to have a smoke and the instant bond you had with those other miserable bastards, freezing and outcast. At parties someone always yelled at the smokers to quit laughing and come inside.

[magellan]

16. Quit Bogarting and gimme a hit off your ciggy

:)

[canetoad]

18. OK

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[magellan]

20. Ahhhh....

Thanks, dude!

Hey, have you heard that a German start-up airline is going to begin offering two ALL-SMOKING flights a day? Hubby saw it on the BBC. Now honestly, there are times I'd love a ciggy during a flight, especially long-haul, but the ENTIRE PLANE? Who needs a cigarette -- save money and just inhale!

[guinivere]

187. lol True that.

A couple of times we slipped out for a smoke and had a way better time outside the party then in. A few of the non smokers joined us. Good times.

[skids]

17. Here's what I want to know...

...I know most people don't like cloves, or can't take them cause if you smoke as much of them as a normal smoker does your lungs will start bleeding or something...

But why do most of the rest of ya'll smoke that commercial schwag? I mean, to me Camels taste like week-old Wheaties and I'm sorry but menthol just isn't enough to cover up the industrial waste scrapings that pass for tobacco in this country. I know for some it's a price thing but you'd figure that between cutting down and smoking something that doesn't taste like concentrated sweat and toe cheese would be worth it.

Do yourselves a favor and treat yourself to something decent from time to time, like a Dunhill, or for more frequent use American Spirit.

[magellan]

23. I used to smoke Dunhills

When I could afford them. I've tried American Spirit as well. Mostly it's a cost thing. As I said above, we buy Zig Zag rolling tobacco and roll our own. Far less expensive, far less waste (there's no saltpeter or whatever it is that makes commercial cigarettes continue to burn after you put them down, so rolled cigarettes go out).

[tenshi816]

30. I noticed when I moved to the UK in 1986

that a lot of people smoke roll-ups. I'm not a smoker myself, and I can really tell the difference in the smoke - it's barely noticeable compared to commercial brands. For people who choose to smoke, I'm convinced it has to be better to roll your own. Better quality tobacco, and you're also able to decide how much to use. Plus the ritual of rolling is an act of creation in itself!

[magellan]

31. Aye, roll-ups are big since they started taxing cigarettes heavily

Everyone in the UK realized rolling their own was cheaper. Of course now, to get the really cheap prices (even on rolling tobacco), you've got to do a day trip to Calais.

A lot of Brits hand roll. I never got the knack of that; I use a roller. Which produces some startled looks on the rare occasions we roll in public HERE. Everyone thinks we've got marijuana. lol

So you like the smell, or find it not as offensive as regular cigarettes? I don't know that it's necessarily less of a smell, but it is different. Sweeter somehow.

[tenshi816]

33. Yes, sweeter!

My grandfather smoked roll-ups (Prince Albert in a can...) and it's a smell that takes me right back to childhood. When I was little, I didn't understand why my grandfather's smoke smelled nice but my mother's didn't.

I can hand roll (not something I use much as a non-smoker!) - I learned my skills rolling something besides tobacco though.

[magellan]

34. LOL

A different medium probably would've given me the incentive to learn how to hand roll too. ;)

Prince Albert in a can! Hubby got a laugh out of that; he's never heard of it. I have but I'm not sure where? The smell that takes me back is cherry pipe tobacco, which also has a lovely sweet scent.

[tenshi816]

35. Here's an explanatory link:

http://www.answers.com/topic/prince-albert-in-a-can

My uncle smoked cherry tobacco in a pipe - I loved it. There used to be a tobacco shop at a mall in Atlanta and I used to go in there just to smell the different kinds of tobacco.

Next time you and hubby visit the "old country", get in touch and maybe we can arrange a meet up. DUer Binka was here earlier this month from Sicily and we had a great time (many bottles of wine were consumed over the course of several days). It's nice to meet other like-minded Democrats!

[magellan]

37. Ah ha, that's where I've heard of it before!

The old prank call. It must be 25 years since I heard it.

I'll definitely let you know next time we cross the pond. I don't accompany hubby often due to the expense, but at some point we'll bite the bullet just to have a proper holiday. Sometimes I wish we'd never left....

Thanks! :hi:

[Spider Jerusalem]

48. That tobacco shop is still there...

Tinder Box @ Lenox Square, no? (I used to buy Turkish Special cigarettes there before they sadly became unavailable.)

[tenshi816]

Yes, that's it!

I haven't been there for years. It's good to know it's still around.

[Binka]

104. Arrggggh I Miss You Still!

Go England. Ray and I will call before tomorrows match!

[tenshi816]

107. Hello my friend!

Did you get my last message to you? I miss you guys so much!

I'm going to post some photos from our Bolton Abbey walk in the photography forum because they're too big to e-mail to your Hotmail account. I'll let you know when I do (hopefully later tonight). When they're up, just right-click and "save as".

Something really bad happened on the moor this week - more later.

Yes - go England!!!

Edited to add that we saw the Flaming Lips last Sunday (fabulous)! I took a couple of pictures with my phone and tried to send them to you while we were there, but kept getting an "unable to send" message. Can your cellphone receive photos?

[jmowreader]

56. It's an old, old, old, old, old joke

What you're supposed to do if you're nine is wait till April 1, call a supermarket and ask if they've got Prince Albert in the one-pound can. When they say yes, you tell them to let him out or he'll suffocate. It's a classic April Fool's Day joke.

Prince Albert the tobacco was created by Mr. R.J. Reynolds himself, who named the tobacco after the then-popular British prince and who illustrated his cans with a portrait of the prince, which was made when Prince Albert was on vacation in the United States.

Apparently Prince Albert is good tobacco. They've made it the same way for over 100 years, so people must like it.

[Karenina]

36. I knew a Brit

that could roll a cig in his pocket. I can no longer tolerate commercial ones, especially with filters, they taste AWFUL.

My SIL, who is a singer, has a horrid reaction to smoke that DOES NOT OCCUR with cigars or rolled cigarettes.

Personally, I think this "Tobacco Campaign" is just another tool to keep the proles at each others throats. :eyes:

[tenshi816]

40. I'm like your SIL.

I'm OK with smoke from roll-ups, cigars and pipes but not from commercial cigarettes, which to me seem to produce much more smoke, and it's fouler smoke as well. I have slight asthma and bad sinuses which are affected by "regular" cigarettes but not other forms of smoking.

[CabalPowered]

159. Or Nat Shermans

mmmm.. nat.

[readmoreoften]

19. I'm not a smoker, but I like second hand smoke.

I actually like to go to bars where all my friends don't leave me sitting inside with the bags while they all chat it up outside.

My poor dad is so addicted to nicotine that he can't fly to visit me across country. Last thing he needs is some idiot giving him grief over bullshit.

[pnwmom]

25. Up till now I found this thread amusing. But I'm an idiot with asthma.

Sorry, but I like being able to breathe on planes without the assistance of a respirator.

Tell your dad to take the cheaper flights with lots of stops. Or what about nicotine patches?

[Spider Jerusalem]

55. No one suggested changing the rules regarding smoking on planes...

but, hey, 25 posts before the self-righteous whingeing starts isn't bad!

[pnwmom]

57. I never said anyone did. I just responded to the poster

with a couple of suggestions that might make it possible for his dad to fly.

So I am self-righteous, in your book, because I mentioned my asthma?

[Spider Jerusalem]

59. No...

you're self-righteous because you said 'sorry, but I like being able to breathe on planes, etc' (when, as I pointed out, no-one's suggested allowing smoking on planes). And the 'suggestions' were at the end of the post (almost like an afterthought); the self-righteousness came first.

[seabeyond]

66. not that it matters to you but airports have made it about damn impossible

for the smoker in every way.... so are you dismiss with just do this or that you would have to put on empathitic shoes, and not seeing like most anti smokers have that ability

[pnwmom]

100. I'm asking honestly -- would a nicotine patch help in this situation?

[seabeyond]

113. i used gum. stuck from 8:30am in airport until 4:00pm

then i had access at dallas until 11p.m. that is a long time in hostile smoking environment. i don't know that gum helped. there were waves of panic, anxiety, sweating, irritable ok bitchiness that just spurted out without the gum. to the point i almost it hubby head off about 6 in evening. and we are never snippy with one another

so

no

it is hell. and the smoker is put in an aggravated situation of and airport with all the above things hitting them too. if patches were sucha wonder thing we could all wear them and quit smoking. the nicotine addiction of smoking is not even most of the addiction with smoking. just a part

[readmoreoften]

170. No.

He's also suffers from schitzoaffective disorder and nicotine has a minor positive effect on reducing psychotic breaks. The patch isn't strong enough and, if it was stronger it would be dangerous. You can't smoke in airports and you can't guarantee that you can't be trapped on a flight for a very long time before take off. He says that he's been experimenting with lozenges.

And by the way, I never said that I lobby for planes to accept smokers. You jumped to that conclusion. I said that it sucks to be my dad, and I feel for him, and it sucks that he's physically addicted to whatever garbage they add to the tobacco. I don't like it that people harp on him for something that he desperately tries to control. I grew up with his incessant smoking and my lungs are perfect and I don't smoke.

The basic point was that I love my dad. Don't turn it into something else.

Oh, and I'm female.

[seabeyond]

178. The basic point was that I love my dad.

the anti smokers don't even get how they trash the parents we love with all our heart. parents we would protect with our lives. parents that took care of us, nutured, and taught, and played, and was there fro us always. in their trashing of our parents some extremist even suggest they should NOT have been allowed to raise us. they dont get how offensive that is. i wonder why. why would anybody be so limited in their thinking that they think we would HATE our parent along with them.

only hate produces that kind of stupidity

[tenshi816]

108. I'm a non-smoker but I'm really enjoying this thread.

No whingeing here. Isn't "whinge" a great word? It's another of those words that you sort of instinctively know what it means. Have you ever lived in the UK (because that's where I first heard whinge)?

[Spider Jerusalem]

110. No, never lived in the UK...

I've been corrupted by lots of watching BBC America, listenig to BBC audio streams and using the Guardian and other British papers as primary news sources, though :D (had an effect on my vocabulary of swear words, too..I use 'bloody' and 'fuckwit' and a few other Britishisms quite a bit, now...heh)

[tenshi816]

111. 'Fuckwit' is one I like a lot too.

Probably use it too much, although having impressionable children helps with keeping the profanity down.

[WyLoochka]

64. More stops are not good

for a smoker. He would have to go all the way to the outside of each terminal and then go back through the security gate hassles.

Non stops for smokers. Drink lots of water pre flight and in flight and chew nic gum toward the end.

[pnwmom]

101. You're right. I had forgotten you couldn't smoke inside airports

anymore.

[smokey nj]

87. Nicorette gets me through flights...........

Before a trip to Ireland in 1998, I went to a CVS type store to buy supplies. I got a carton of cigarettes and a box of Nicorette in the same purchase. The cashier commented "I guess you're not real optimistic."

[guinivere]

191. *sigh* You were told it was going to be smokey in here.

Good grief! We can't even fake smoke on the internet without someone bitching.

:eyes:

[seabeyond]

65. i love you. i have heard more people rail against parent for smoking

my guess there are more issues with their relationship than the smoking. my parents smoked and it had NOTHING to do with our relationship or what wonderful people they were/are. what they gave me as paretns, how blessed i was to have them as parents. but by the anti smoker argument you would think i should hate my parents and surely by 44 be dead by now and my parents murdered me cause they don't love me

it is very refreshing to see a child of smoker not HATE their parent.

and isnt that sad, that is what is refreshing

[REP]

21. I Smoke for the Children

A goodly chunk of the extra taxes tacked on to each carton funds some children's program in this state, and without this funding, what would the children do? Won't anyone think of the children?!!11!?

[TahitiNut]

94. Smokers are the largest group of humanitarians left in the country.

Bearing the burdens of huge taxation and alleviating the Social Security system are just part of the service they perform for their fellow citizens. Enabling the narrowly self-righteous for whom such an opportunity for self-proclaimed superiority is rare, and certainly not gained by any actual achievements on their part, smokers offer those a reason for pride who have nothing else to be proud about.

:evilgrin:

[seabeyond]

130. i just love you tahitinut and you arent a smoker ether

am i right. just nice, right?

well love you even if you are a smoker. lol

[TahitiNut]

158. Just a human being.

I've smoked. I've not smoked.

There's not much that's legal I haven't tried ... at least once. I have a problem learning from the experiences of others.

There's not much I hate other than hatred itself... and not much I'm intolerant of other than intolerance.
There's sadly been a lot of both in these threads.
It's a wonder to me how some can call themselves 'liberals' let alone 'democrats' but I guess integrity and consistency is far more important to me than many. (It's a character flaw, obviously.)

[seabeyond]

163. i am right there with you

i think that is what bothers me the most. cause except on a message board listening to these people, i dont run into it in real life. i dont bother people with my smoking, and they dont say anything to me. well..... there are the inlaws. but they live far far away

but the hate. the lack of compassion. the ugly.

that is what just amazes me the most

yes, human being. a very balanced and healthy human being. thank you

[radfringe]

24. waaaay back in the 70's

when I was in college. The college cafeteria split the cafeteria in half. Both sides were totally separate from each other. They had their own entrances, air systems etc. One was smoking the other non-smoking.

so I'm sitting it the smoking room, having a cup of coffee, catching up on some homework. A woman sits at a table near me with some friends (who are smokers). I finish off my coffee and light up a cigarette

the woman asks me to put it out - I tell her that there's a non-smoking section just a few feet away.

she says she knows but wants to sit with her friends, and even though they smoke they refrain from doing so while she was around. I suggest that if her friends are so considerate of her wishes that they should all go sit in the non-smoking room

a curious observation over the years regarding smoking/non-smoking areas in restaurants - there's always a waiting time to get a seat in the smoking section, but you can get seated immediately in the non-smoking areas

[seabeyond]

67. again i say, new friends tell me their anti smoking, one whiff death

speech..... and as our friendship develops and i leave them to smoke outside, they follow along. i tell them, but but but i am smoking and they wave it away. how seriously do i take this non smoking bullshit. it is bullshit

all three oh it hurts me, oh i am allergic, (i am amazed how everyone is allergic to smoke).... yet still, once they decide we are friends it seems to not be an issue at all as i try and try to protect them from DEATH

[TahitiNut]

95. "i am amazed how everyone is allergic to smoke"

Yep. Liars all. Worse than faux 'Vietnam veterans' since there really was a Vietnam war. :shrug:

[Occulus]

97. Amazing, isn't it?

I had a roommate who was soooo "allergic" that one night in the winter (when it was below zero plus a wind chill), I lit up inside for a change (because I didn't want to get frostbite), and he actually doused me with a glass of water.

Twice.

Yet somehow, he went out to the bar every weekend and had no problem at all.

Mostly, it's used as an excuse to not like someone. Yes, I said "excuse".

[pnwmom]

102. I can't speak for everyone who says that, but for years I thought I was

allergic, though I kept reading that cigarette smoke was not an allergen -- it was an irritant. If it's not an allergen, I wondered, then how come I can't breathe.

Then I came down with pneumonia for the third time and was finally diagnosed with asthma. It turns out that, medically speaking, "irritant" doesn't mean "annoying." An "irritant" is an asthma trigger. And it can make you as sick, or sicker (depending on the person) than an allergen.

[grace0418]

72. I have never had that experience while waiting for a seat at a restaurant.

Quite the opposite actually–the smoking section has plenty of empty seats but the wait for the non-smoking section is 45 minutes. Maybe it depends on the city.

I've given in a couple of times when the smoking section looked totally empty and the wait for non-smoking was outrageous, and every time I've regretted it. Obviously I would never be so rude as to ask the smoker to stop smoking *in the smoking section* but every time I've gambled with it, the person seated next to me five minutes later is a total chain-smoker (as opposed to someone who enjoys a cigarette after a meal). Now I wait or I go to another restaurant.

By the way, the story you told about the woman asking you to stop smoking in the smoking section is ridiculous! Who does that? Talk about an over-inflated sense of entitlement!

[deaniac21]

84. Perhaps the reason for your last observation is that the

smoking areas are MUCH smaller....duh.

[johnaries]

27. I'm addicted. But it would be easier to quit

if I didn't just ENJOY it so much!

The simple pleasures in life - a cup of coffee and a cig. A cig after a good meal. Haing a fews drinks and a cig.

I write a lot of documentation. Sometimes, I'll get "stuck" trying to think of the best way to present the point or points I'm trying to teach - I'll go out, have a cig and think about it, and by the time I'm finished smoking I'll have it figured out.

Smoking isn't just about the nicotine - it's about learning to take a break, slow down for a minute, and enjoying life for just a few minutes at a time.

Try explaining that to a non-smoker. They have NO CLUE!

[Dulcinea]

32. Thanks for this thread!

I seldom smoke these days--in times of stress & when I'm drinking alcohol--but the last thing I need is some self-righteous asswipe telling me what I can & can't put into my body. I'm an adult & can make those decisions for myself, thank you very much! I wouldn't tell you what you can & can't ingest, so leave me alone to enjoy my pint & cigarette!

Smoking bans are a sign of creeping fascism, to my mind. This is America, people! What happened to freedom of choice?

One of the things I enjoy most is a good conversation with my girlfriends over a smoke & a beverage, alcoholic or otherwise. I'll be damned if I let anyone deprive me of that.

There are too few pleasures in life! Why do moralistic wankers want to take one of them away?

[Liberal In Texas]

44. Very close to how I think. I sitting her right now with a hot cup

of coffee having a cig. When I get to the job I have today, there'll be no smoking until I pack my equipment up and start the drive back home. We'll go to the bar tonight and be in the last bastion of public places that allow people to smoke unhindered. It's one of life's simple pleasures.

I smoke maybe a half pack a day. The doc says if I totally quit I might add maybe 2 years to the end of my life. With smoking in moderation, I feel this isn't such a bad trade-off. If I totally quit, it would probably disrupt the quality of life I enjoy now and make that extra 2 years not really worth it.

In going to conferences out of town, I've actually met many people I wouldn't have in places like LA where they exile people outside the building to smoke. Smokers gather around introduce themselves and chat with each other much more easily than back inside the formal conference areas.

[PinkUnicorn]

53. If it wasn't for smoko

If it wasn't for my ocassional 'smoko'* during a work day, there would be blood on the walls, bodies in the hall, and a heavily armed SWAT team outside the building demanding I put down the 4" by 2". The additional bonus is that all the banshees who drive you up the wall are invariably non-smokers and dont come anywhere near you, giving that 5 precious minutes of peace to think.

So light up those coffin nails, gaspers, cancer sticks, durries, fags, rollies and prevent unnecessary callouts to the psych-wards! :)

^{* Smoko - slang for 'Smoke Break'}

[Stephist]

28. Can You Smoke Cigars In Here?

:toast:

[magellan]

29. No way! Cigars stink!!

:rofl:

Go for it.

[ProfessorGAC]

39. I Smoke Cigars! But Not In The House!

My wife would kill me in my sleep if i smoked them in the house. I smoke them in my car, on the golf course, and out in the back yard. In the winter, just in my car. My wife would agree with you about the "stink".
The Professor

[magellan]

131. My husband smokes cigars, too

Good ones. But he's banned to the porch swing when he does! Due more to my sensitivity to strong, persistent odors than anything else; I get roaring headaches just from wearing a little perfume. Oddly, ciggies don't affect me that way.

Sounds like you need to move to warmer climes if you're forced to smoke your stogeys in the car during winter.

[Fuzz]

78. Only the bad cigars stink

Get the good ones. ;)

[displacedtexan]

38. Smoking is my only vice.

If I quit, I would be perfect, and there would be
no living with me.

Imagine how superior I would be to all around me!

Lesser beings would have to bow down before me.

[jdlh8894]

45. It's easy to quit!

I did it 30 or 40 times yesterday!!

[jbnow]

126. Way to look at it.

My insurance agent always looks for discounts for me and told me he gave me one for being a non-smoker, I told him I do. He told me he knew that but was sure I didn't smoke in my sleep or in the shower, so I was also a non-smoker.

[JuniperLea]

63. Heh!

That's what I told my boss. He smokes, but tries to hide it. We bumped into each other in the smoking area downstairs one day. I told him I have so few vices that I tend to cultivate them... if you are too perfect, no one will like you:)

[seabeyond]

69. see, i am right there with you. the rightousness i would feel

if i werent a smoker. it at least humbles me. the gift this vile habit has given to me.

[WilliamPitt]

41. What up, yo

Smokers of the world *koff* unite!

:smoke:

[suffragette]

74. Hey, Will.

Glad to see ya here.
Got a light?
My lighter just crapped out and it's break time.

[REP]

171. Now I Know You're Satan

I'd read the rumors, but this just fucking proves it. Now, would you hand me that lighter, please?

[Bassic]

43. I've only 4 days before I become a non-smoker.

At least before I try to. Again.

But for now, got a light? :D

[Vidar]

50. A life-long non-smoker, I used to eat in smoking sections to avoid

noisy children & read in peace.

[Gabi Hayes]

51. laugh it up...smoke it up...just remember....

my mom smoked for forty years, til her emphysema got so bad she had to be hooked up to an oxygen concentrating machine, 24 hours a day, for the last ten years of her life

she died a MISERABLE, choking, drowning death....Alone in a hospital. I'd just left, after having been there for over two days straight. By the time I'd gotten home, the hospital had called, told me to come back....I had to sign the death certificate

please try to quit killing yourselves

[tyedyeto]

61. Not all emphysema is caused by smoking.

Get back on your high horse and go back to the other thread where you can complain about your fellow human beings to your hearts desire.

[TahitiNut]

91. Amen.

The facade of faux compassion wore out more than 15 years ago. Now it's just 'retro.' :shrug:

[pnwmom]

124. So? That's like saying: not all deaths are caused by being hit by a car.

But that doesn't mean you should step out in front of one.

[tyedyeto]

166. You are so full of BS

this thread is NOT about being hit by a car. It's about smoking. I gave an example of a dear friend of mine who died from emphysema. She was never a smoker. It is not true that every person who has emphysema was a smoker or has lived with a smoker, but you righteous assholes who want to compare everyone who has ever had that condition to smoking can kiss my ass because I know better.

[pnwmom]

174. I would NEVER say that everybody with emphysema smoked because

one of my relatives had a serious genetic form of emphysema -- not cigarette induced -- and I watched him suffer with it for years.

But I do have trouble figuring out why anyone who has watched someone suffer from that disease would actually volunteer for it. I don't mean someone who got hooked thirty years ago . . . I mean people young enough to have grown up knowing the dangers.

Go ahead. Call me names if it makes you feel better.

[seabeyond]

182. was this family member in the same gene pool as the other family

member that had smoking related emphysema?

[pnwmom]

195. No -- one on mother's side, one on father's.

[Spider Jerusalem]

62. In the words of the late, great Bill Hicks:

'The worst kind of non-smoker is the one that comes up to you and goes *hack hack kaff*. "Shoot buddy, you're lucky you don't smoke! I smoke all day and don't cough like that!" That's a bit cruel, isn't it? Walking up to a smoker coughing. Do you walk up to cripples and dance, too? "Hey Mr Wheelchair, what's the problem? C'mon, Ironside, race ya!". You fucking sadist. I'll smoke, I'll cough, I'll get the tumors, I'll die. Deal?'

[seabeyond]

70. this is the really sick of our anti smokers. a hope desire wish we die

an agonizing death. i feel them just rubbing hands together saying, soon soon they will die and at funeral i can point and say see..... i told them to quit.

i told hubby years ago, i don't want his family at my funeral. i can see them all standing htere, arms crossed, shaking head, saying i told her she should not smoke. even if i was hit by a bus.

now, i may be a smoker, but what does it say about the non smoker that they disgust me so i say out loud i don't want them at my funeral because of their gross behavior

[pnwmom]

127. My husband's cousin suffered along with his mother

through her long dying from emphysema and lung cancer, and now he's watching his dad go the same way. Both were heavy smokers.

How can you think that a son is rubbing his hands together at his parent's death? Do you think children enjoy watching their parents suffer?

[PassingFair]

132. If it wasn't for that DAMN smoking....

she would have had ETERNAL life!

I quit 4 years ago, July 4th (my personal independence day)
because of FINANCIAL reasons.

I could no longer afford cigarettes!

I still like the smell, I let people smoke in my house and in
my car. I am too good of a friend and "hostess" to send anyone
outside. I well remember how a smoker feels when they can't
get their fix.

Now I just wonder how people can AFFORD it!

[seabeyond]

133. so you my non smoking friend come into this smoking thread

so you can tell all your woe is me those meany smokers pickin on me again, you have absolutely no part in this war agaisnt smokers. you are going to do your preaching to the poor heathens cause they are so stupid to do the right thing without you there to save their ass ...... routine

this is what the smokers are saying they are fuckin tired of woman, if you havent been able to comprehende all the way down the fuckin thread.....

i dont need you here giving me fuckin lectures on cancer and death and the poor abused who happen to love these heathen smokers.

dont worry about the plane, just dont..... forget anything the smoker may experience ... listen to you, the know it all

you cant breathe, you have asthma, who the fuck is blowing it in your face, no one

but you die a horrible, lingering, excutiating, painful, death and bothers loved ones so (this kind of arrogant bullshit comment you posted here, right here and right now is why i want NO non smoker relative at my funeral) you say this shit as if you give a crap but really it is just to dig in self righteousness. this is what i am saying put hands together, you get a glee a joy ....

fuck that shit

[REP]

172. Hi. My Father Died From a Smoking-Related Cancer.

Bladder cancer that metatasized to the spinal column. I'll put that death up against emphysema and lung cancer (comparatively easy deaths next to bone cancer) any day.

I still smoke.

Would I encourage someone to start? Probably not. Am I going to use my father's really horrible death to make people stop? Well, it didn't work on me, and I was there. Hell, it didn't work on him or his wife. So, really - everyone knows it can kill you. We know.

[Beelzebud]

73. I love Bill Hicks. :)

"I'd quit smoking if I wasn't so scared of becoming one of you little maggots."

[Dulcinea]

123. My MIL was a nonsmoker...

...and now she's an invalid in a nursing home, suffering from Alzheimer's, such severe arthritis that she's bedridden, incontinence, and a host of other health problems brought on by a lifetime of eating a high-fat diet.

I'd rather smoke than end up like that any day.

[porphyrian]

52. I quit cigs almost a decade ago, but I'll smoke some weed.

Anyone mind?

:smoke:

[smokey nj]

88. Not if you share. n/t

[Viva_La_Revolution]

90. as long as you share

[johnnie]

58. I roll my own

Actually I stuff my own with a machine. I save a ton of cash and the smoke tastes a lot better. Lately I have been using American Spirit and have tried different blends just for a different flavor. If I bum a smoke (which is next to never) there is a big difference. I can hardly smoke a pre-made cigarette anymore.

[TexasLady]

60. I smoke about half a cig at a time

and everyone makes fun of me for it. Something about the bottom portion of the smoke tastes gross to me. If I tell my H I need a pack of smokes, he laughs and says I HAVE a pack, in the ashtray! I wonder if that means Ive done slightly less damage?

I kinda doubt it, but I do like smokin'!

[TX-RAT]

68. Just the thread i was looking for.

I believe I'll just sit back in my chair, carefully light a nice Montecristo, Platinum Torpedo, read and enjoy.

[Fuzz]

79. Just sparked a Gurkha Nepalese Warrior myself

;)

[Hugin]

71. I'll only be a second...

I just came in to use my cell phone.

*cough*

[snooper2]

75. Ah, just smoked a joint, you know what you need after that right?

:smoke:

[Touchdown]

76. I'm at work.

Yous alls are making me want one. We have a smoking room in my building for ONE LAST DAY. Colorado's get cancer in a bar, but not a casino law goes into effect on Monday, so they have to shut it down.:(

I'm off to burn one!:hi:

[Gregorian]

77. I don't smoke anymore. But I still can taste Export A cigarettes.

And even before I smoked, I loved second hand smoke. The other day, the propane guy showed up. I got as close as I could so I could get a wiff of his cig. Mmm. This whole "Oh, I can't handle smoke" whiney bullshit is so tiresome. It's indicative of the hypocrisy that is running rampant in this country. You know what I have to say about that? The smoke coming out of you car is something worth whining about. I ride a bike, and no one gives a shit about me.

Now back to my old love. I rolled Drum for years. But my favorite was Export A's. Does anyone recall those?

I gave up smoking because nicotine is highly addictive. And I couldn't do a good job of keeping it in moderation. Plus I wanted to get into competitive athletics.

Smoke has been a huge part of my life. Even after I quit my shag, I grew my own sensimilla. Now that was the highlight of my life. A garden of glistening girls.

Well, now you know. That's my other side. Criticize me. I don't care.

[robinlynne]

80. yeah. progressives and smokers. my kind of people!

[gauguin57]

81. *Cough cough cough* Whoa ... you weren't kiddin'

This IS the smoking section.

I'm outta here!

"Maitre d' ... nonsmoking please."

[Touchdown]

86. Waiter! Bowl of milk at table two!

[Corgigal]

82. I'm having one of my menthol cigs

and a diet coke for breakfast. Nice way to start the day.

[smokey nj]

89. Breakfast of Champions!!! n/t

[Laurab]

83. Smoking is a disgusting, stupid habit I know

WHY do I like it so much?

I have to agree with a couple other posters though, it's my only vice, and God knows I don't want to be perfect....or, more perfect I should say. Wait, I swear, too. But, I'm not sure that's a vice. I swear more now than ever, but I attribute that to bushshit. And I like swearing, almost as much as I like smoking. No, that's not true, I like smoking WAY more.

I can't imagine life without my coffee and my cigarettes, although I too have quit hundreds of times. Once for 8 hours, and once when I was in the hospital, for 3 days, but I gave up quitting a while back because it made me smoke more.....

I hate when a room gets really full of smoke, though, so I'm out of here!

[Cameron27]

85. knew I'd find the smoking lounge if I looked long enough...

coffee and a cig...ain't much better'n that :smoke:

[Norquist Nemesis]

92. Ah! A smoking thread I can get into!

:smoke:

[ceile]

93. Excellent!

I don't care how bad I'm gonna smell!

[dogday]

96. Smoke em if you got em

The designated DU smoking room..... :rofl: I love it....

[RB TexLa]

98. considering that about 20 of the non-smokers that voted in my poll

think they should just be able to march into this thread's "area" and open fire, it might not be a safe idea, but what the hell, got a light?

[nashville_brook]

99. quit for a year or so -- and started again

i was in the hospital for half the time -- so that part was easy.

then i got out. did fine for months. got a stressful job and still was okay... but...

husband smoked cigars and if i wanted to hang out with him it was to be watching him smoke and drinking and talking. i finally couldn't do it anymore. just one ciggie on friday, after work, with a glass of wine.

i love smoking. it keeps me from eating. it's a social activity. it separates me from the non-smokers, who bill hicks pegged in so many ways...

so, here's an American Spirit (yellow) and cup of coffee shout out to the rest of ya!

[OnionPatch]

103. I'm no longer a smoker but

I used to be for a long time, so I understand the smoker's point of view and sympathize to an extent. Smoking is enjoyable. Period. That's the reason people do it, the same reason they do lots of things that aren't good for them, like eating bacon. It irks me when people treat smokers like pariahs. And here in California, there is not one single place a smoker can go to enjoy a drink AND a smoke. It just seems bizarre. The only time I get angry about smoking is if someone does it in a car or room where my child is. But otherwise, smoke away.....and here, I will have a virtual smoke with you for old time's sake! :smoke:

[TK421]

105. I...can't...b-b-breathe in here..it's too smokey ( hack hack )

:smoke: :smoke: :smoke:

[tyedyeto]

167. Then get the fuck out of here n/t

[Javaman]

106. only those who want an elivated chance of cancer, please enter. nt

[Phillycat]

120. I'll just be over here, smoking and spelling words correctly. nt

[Javaman]

121. And I'll be over here breathing free of lung cancer. :) nt

[seabeyond]

139. no.... you will be over there being the

jerk

[tyedyeto]

168. You have my permission to leave ASAP n/t

[dogday]

112. Einstein would be proud of you.... Read below......

Einstein, on the other hand, was very passionate about his pipe smoking. During one lecture, he ran out of pipe tobacco and borrowed some cigarettes from his students so he could crumple the tobacco into his pipe. "Gentlemen," he said, "I believe we've made a great discovery!" He later decided that his conclusion was premature. He realized that cigarette tobacco lacks the aroma, the fullness, and the taste of pipe tobacco. But what appealed most to Einstein was the entire ritual of pipe smoking: carefully choosing from a variety of pipes and tobaccos, delicately loading the briar, puffing and tamping, and the associated contemplation. "I believe that pipe smoking contributes to a somewhat calm and objective judgment in all human affairs," he said in 1950 at age 71, when he became a lifetime member of the Montreal Pipe Smokers Club


http://reason.com/9407/col.newcombe.shtml

[seabeyond]

140. 71 but it cant be. he was suppose to be dead long before

tell me it aint so

[Hugin]

114. Sub-smoking thread, joke thread...

Since smokers are always up on the latest jokes.

[Hugin]

116. First one... I loved this one.

A guy pulls into a filling station and asks the attendant
for $5.00 worth of gas.

The attendant breaks wind and hands the customer a receipt.

LOL!

:rofl:

*cough*

[canetoad]

117. OK

6am here and I'm taking the dogs to the beach when I finish coffee & cig.

Did you hear about the dyslexic devil worshipper? He sold his soul to Santa.

[Hugin]

118. LOL... Beautiful!

That's what I'm talking about.

:bluebox: <-- I don't know what this smilie is all about. But, it never gets
used. I thought I'd use it.

[Hugin]

125. How do you fix loose walls?

Tighten your wall nuts!

I heard that joke in 4th grade and for some (very) strange reason...
It still cracks me up.

:7

[SoCalDem]

122. It's why Californians love Vegas...

Vegas is still one place in the US, where smokers are actually welcomed.. Casinos "used" to have quite large "non-smoking" areas, but in recent years, the size of those areas has defintely shrunk, and in fact a few weeks ago when we went, I never even SAW a non-smoking sign..(except by the elevators)

Vegas seems to have gotten the message about the "child-worship" areas too. More and more casinos have gone back to adult-related activities and they have taken off the nany costume:)

Disclaimer: YES I know that smoking is not good for me, and yes I know I should quit, but there are still places on earth where intrusive do-goodism has taken a back seat.

I also have many friends who do not smoke, and I never smoke around them.

[seabeyond]

141. socal this is our thread. you dont need to apologize

you dont need disclaimer. fuck that shit and let go of the anti smoking hating people. we arent in a room we have to cow to. that is the fun of this thread. fuck em and puff and no apology

[Lindacooks]

128. Keep the smoke in your own lungs and you can burst into flame for

all I care. But when you exhale, it becomes my business.

Sheesh, what a child you are - addicted to your little thumb substitute.

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[smokey nj]

144. Seabeyond,....

I guess you haven't seen the report that links smoking-related writing to eye cancer in non-smokers.

:smoke:

[seabeyond]

146. bullshit

it is bullshit and htey are playing you like a little puppet on a string because they know you will say the most vile thing, hate as strong as hate can be, use anything they give you to do their battle. why is everyone not blind. why arent the kids of smokers going around with your eye cancer for decades. bullshit

besides, get the tush out of the smoking room and you wont have any issues to gripe about will you.

[smokey nj]

148. I was kidding......

I was being sarcastic about the fact that they can't even stay away from a thread. I'm on your side.

[seabeyond]

149. bah hahhahahahaahha lol lol lol i am in battle form

can you tell , bring em on. this little pacifist is ready to kick some holier than thou arse. bah hahhaha

oh that is funny. you are cute. fingers going fast and furious. i hear ya,..... little pisshers

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[magellan]

175. You overestimate my exhale powers

Unless you're hiding in my closet.

[Spider Jerusalem]

185. Yay....another moralising twit come in to preach to the evil smokers...

:eyes:

[guinivere]

193. Good grief.

This is the smoking section. Please leave. Take your self righteousness with you, it smells bad.

[jbnow]

129. OK smokers

we know what we can do to ur health but I just recently found out why.

We really should do something about it. Here's the deal. There was the big study released last month that found no link between pot smoking and lung cancer. I searched to find more about it. I know they suspect THC blocks cancer and is anti-inflammatory but what else made the difference?
I found some mentions that when marijuana was mass produced in fields and calcium based phosphate fertilizer was used it did increase the cancer risk. These researchers were looking at possibility it was actually the fertilizer that made tobacco the high cancer risk, not tobacco itself.

There are many that were added to cigarettes that are not allowed in food. But oddly it seems the biggest problem is the fertilizer used to grow tobacco. Since the 40's they've been using calcium based phosphate fertilizer.

The problem with that fertilizer tobacco ends up with high levels of Polonium-210 and that is radioactive and that is the only part of tobacco that can alone cause lung cancer. (That is others might in combination). It's estimated 90% of smoking related lung cancers are due to that fertilizer being used. Other cancers as well, smokers have a much higher level of Polonium-210 in their system.

One link led to another. I'd never heard of it before but it's no conspiracy theory, no secret. There are internal memos (now public) of Philip Morris showing they knew radiation contamination in the 70's and as they went on over the years they debated switching to ammonium phosphate which would remove polonium from tobacco. They decided it was too expensive.

Too expensive! I've been so angry since I have learned about this. The companies know, the EPA knows, the government knows and they don't care, they don't change it. They let not just the smokers get the cancer (which people tend to think they asked for) but the fertilizer is also what increases the danger in 2nd hand smoke!

This is just true as conspiratorial as it sounds. Put calcium phosphate fertilizer tobacco Polonium-210 in google.

90%!!! I swear that is a class action law suit in itself. Yes we know smoking is dangerous but they know they are making it a carcinogen. They are doing it. We pay huge taxes, the state got huge settlements...are they using any of the money to force them to pay a little more for safe fertilizer? Is it a just punishment for us?

Something should be done, but who looks at it and who cares? This should be BIG news. Smokers are not the nasty ones, tobacco is not the killer...the growers who don't care and the agencies that don't care either are.

Who do we complain to? I have smoked additive free cigarettes for years. Now I switched to organic though American Spirit has the only organic brand I know. But I'm angry...people should never be treated this way for profit.

[pnwmom]

173. I'm surprised no one has responded to your post.

Thanks for the alert. It's an issue to learn more about, whether we smoke or not.

[seabeyond]

179. like we don't know pnwmom n/t

[jbnow]

184. I'm surprised too

This is the 3rd time I have posted about it here since I started learning about it and you are the first one that replied at all. I'm guessing if I can't get interests from Democrats (even smoking ones) I will probably not garner much interest from those who could change something.

I know people knew there were bad additives...but did people really know the risk was so much greater because of cheaper fertilizer? And just accept it?

The whole fertilizer industry seems to be a strange one. People just living near the fertilizer plants and mines experience lung cancer and leukemia rates that are double the area average, worse for the workers themselves. And what is creepier is that fluorosilicic acid, which is a toxic byproduct derived from phosphate fertilizer production, is the most popular fluoridation agent in city water supplies.

I won't try to get into everything I am learning here but the risk goes beyond smokers. The issue with smokers is that tobacco holds the radioactive elements more and smoking gets it right to the lungs.
But toxic wastes that cost too much to be disposed of are now easily handled by being given to fertilizer manufactures for use on crops, toxic sludge. We've got contaminated lands and waters, depleted soils, connected clusters of health risks of all sorts.

So it's not just smokers they don't care about.

But what does it take to make us care? And if we don't, who will?

Thanks for a reply.

[Lilith Velkor]

134. Oh looky, the nonsmokers are here.

And they're offended! :rofl:

:smoke: :smoke: :smoke: :smoke: :smoke:

[seabeyond]

143. ahhhhhhhhhhhh

screw em

[AnnInLa]

135. OHhhh, am glad to find a place to smoke

without getting paranoid! (reminds me of the 70's)

Thanks for the smoking lounge!

[Sapere aude]

136. Expert, texpert choking smokers don't you think the joker laughs at you

See how they smile like pigs in a sty
See how they snide
I'm crying
Semolina pilchard
climbing up the Eiffel tower
Elementary penguin singing Hare Krishna
Man, you should have seen them kicking
Edgar Allan Poe

I am the eggman
They are the eggmen
I am the walrus
Goo goo g' joob
Goo goo g' joob
Goo goo g' goo
goo goo g' joob goo
juba juba juba
juba juba juba
juba juba juba juba
juba juba

[zippy890]

137. Ah! well ventilated smoking section - great!

:smoke:

Thanks canetoad, its like we've been made to feel subhuman,
like we have leprosy and should be sent off to some camp so
we won't 'infect' others.

I KNOW its bad for me. I am courteous to people and don't
smoke around anyone else who might not like it.

And did anyone ever think that the rise in obesity in this country
may be related to the decline in smoking?
so pick your poison I guess.

:smoke:
Ah!
:toast:

[seabeyond]

145. NO

I KNOW its bad for me. I am courteous to people and don't
smoke around anyone else who might not like it.

that is the only rule in this room. no appeasing with i know it is bad for me. fuck it..... we are smokin

[zippy890]

177. alright! We are smokin' and no apologies

jeebus I've become such a wimp, thanks!

:party:

[seabeyond]

180. anytime sistah/brother n/t

[Broken_Hero]

138. Nice thread brother...

I have been smoke free for 9 days now...and its a bitch, but your thread brought a smile to my face...:) I was smoke free for over 9 months, this last time, before falling off this mid march...but, i'm back on..


*lighs an E-Cigarette, Marb light 100's*...

Ah...*exhales*...hmm, all I need is a Killians Irish Red and I'm good to go...

[seabeyond]

147. made it thru the three days huh

how did you do it?????

[Broken_Hero]

154. made it

through 8 days...its rough...I have a question...if you do smoke a cig one day, and go a few days without smoking, do you really count that one day, you smoked 1 cigarette, while fiending?...:) All hypothicial of course.

[seabeyond]

156. lol, i wouldnt count it in the eight

does start the addiction in the system, but that starts working out in 20 minutes after the smoke. suppose to be totally out within 72 hours i understand hence why i said three days. but i would continue saying 8 days, in number of days quit. good for the brain

[BlackVelvet04]

150. What's the best tobacco to use for rolling your own?

Any suggestions?

Do you use the premade cigarettes with filters or actually roll one like a doobie?

[magellan]

176. We like Zig Zag lite

Or Top. (We prefer Golden Virginia, but it's only available in the UK/EU.) Check out www.rollyourown.com

We use rollers. Neither of us ever mastered hand-rolling. Took me a while to get the hang of rollers (also by Zig Zag); wound up with pointy ciggies for a while! Don't forget filters.

[Spider Jerusalem]

186. Something from these guys:

http://cigarettetobacco.com/

I recommend either their Ramback or Ramback Gold, but then I'm a fan of Turkish tobacco. All of their tobacco is several cuts above stuff like Zig Zag or Bugler, though.

[BlackVelvet04]

189. Can you recommend an injector

machine?

I know which tubes I want.

Thanks for your help.

[Spider Jerusalem]

192. If you're willing to spend a little extra...

the Premier Supermatic is worth it. I'd recommend a crank-operated injector over a hand injector; greater ease of use and it only takes about 5 min to turn out 20 smokes.

On edit: If you decide to give the Ramback or Ramback Gold a try, be warned in advance it's very different from American tobacco...you can't feel Turkish tobacco in your lungs AT ALL when you inhale, but it's very aromatic and has a WONDERFUL flavour (you can taste just a HINT of it in Camel Lights, which are the only American cigarettes I know of that have a hint of anything Turkish about them).

[BlackVelvet04]

196. Thanks very much for your help.....

I'm going to check it out. I'm tired of paying $33 + per carton for chemical laden smokes. I see that website even has brown paper tubes. I hate white paper...I can taste something like chlorine.

[chaska]

151. DAMN, it stinks in here! Somebody open a window!

:evilgrin:

[Karenina]

152. I'll open the door too

for some cross-breeze AND turn on the overhead fan. Stay or leave, your call. ;-)

[seabeyond]

157. whatcha talking about ... it is totally and perfectly ventilated along

the evening breeze coming thru the two doors and eight windows opened. you must be one of those....

[tyedyeto]

169. Then get the fuck out of here

[Old and In the Way]

153. SMOKE! SMOKE! SMOKE! THAT CIGARETTE

SMOKE! SMOKE! SMOKE! THAT CIGARETTE
Recorded by Tex Williams
Words and music by Merle Travis and Tex Williams

Now I'm a fellar with a heart of gold
With the ways of a gentleman, I've been told
The kind of a fellar that wouldn't even harm a flea
But if me and a certain character met
That guy that invented the cigarette
I'd murder that son-of-a- gun in the first de- gree.

Now, it ain't 'cause I don't smoke myself
An' I don't reckon that they hinder your health
I've smoked 'em all my life and I ain't dead yet!
But nicotine slaves are all the same
At a pettin' party or a poker game
Ev'ry- thing's gotta stop while they smoke the ciga- rette.

CHORUS
Smoke!, Smoke!, Smoke! that ciga- rette
Puff!, Puff!, Puff! it if you smoke yourself to death
Tell Saint Peter at the Golden Gate
That you hates to make him wait
You've just gotta have an- other ciga- rette.

In a game of chance the other night
Old Dame Fortune was a-doin' me right
Man, the kings and queens just kept on comin' around
Then I got a full and I bet it high
But my bluff didn't work on a certain guy
He just keep on raisin' and layin' the money down.

Now, he'd raise me - I'd raise him
I sweated blood - you gotta sink or swim
He finally called - didn't raise the bet
I said, "Aces full, Pal, how 'bout you?"
He said, "Well, I'll tell you in just a minute or two
But right now, I just gotta have myself a cigarette."

CHORUS

Now, the other night I had me a date
With the cutest little gal in the forty-eight states
A highbred, uptown, fancy little dame
She said she loved me and it seemed to me
That ev'rything was 'bout like it oughta be
So hand in hand, we strolled down lover's lane.

She was, oh, so far from a chunk of ice
And our smoochin' party was goin' real nice
So help me, Hanna, I think I'd-a been there yet
Well, I give her a kiss - a little squeeze
She said, "Tex, excuse me - please, but
I just gotta have another cigarette."

[lonestarnot]

155. Cigareeeeete!

:smoke: that cigareeeeete!

[emdee]

161. I haven't smoked in 13 years....

but still consider myself a smoker. I walk through smoking areas on purpose just to get a whiff!
emdee

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

162. I Was 13. Cool Lookin Marbloro Van Pulled Up. Told Us We Could Win Some

prizes. We signed some forms and each got 3 packs of cigarettes and a cool Marlboro lighter.

Most regrettful day of my life. I've been a pack a day smoker ever since soon after, and at times had been a 4 pack a day smoker.

I love my smokes. I hate my smokes. I love my smokes, I hate my smokes. Just try and take my smokes away. Shit they're the only thing that's been consistent in my life the last 20 years LOL

And all this talk about smoking.... time to get my ass up and go outside and light a fucker up!

[canetoad]

165. 35 years later

can still remember my first inhalation. I was hooked from that moment. Can also remember word for word some ciggy advertising jingles from the 70's.

[dogday]

181. Smoke em if you got em.....

[blogslut]

183. Smokers tip better

Coincidence?

Here's the deal:

My dad wrote an article on folks with lung disease when he was thirty years old. He quit smoking that day. 34 years later, he died of a heart attack, due to complications of diabetes.

My mother smoked up until a little after she suffered a stroke, where doctors discovered Glioblastoma Multiforme. She died two months later.

My parents had four children. Two boys and two girls. One boys smokes. One girl smokes. The other two have never smoked.

We siblings are getting up there. The oldest of us is 56. He's the smoker and he's got a bad hip but so far, still alive and no emphysema we know about.

The second eldest is the non-smoking son. He's got this weird cholsteral thing that we think he inherited from our Father's father. He's in decent health but a little overweight.

The third of us is the non-smoking sister. She's recently been diagnosed with epilepsy. Her arthritis is really kicking in but she is vital although pudgy too.

The last of us is me, the smoking female of the bunch. I'll tell you, I can't breathe as well as I used to but I manage to walk a lot around my small town. I am stiff but nowhere near arthritic. At the moment, I'm just trying to get through the world's longest case of menopause. I've been having hot flashes for five years now.

I don't know why I wrote all this. But there you go. Now where is my lighter?

EDIT: All four of us are overweight. Just wanted to make that clear. Although, I'm beginning to doubt I made any sense at all. I'm just glad to have found the smoking room :)

[Karenina]

188. Being born into this world

is 100% FATAL.

[guinivere]

194. It's okay.

Light up. Don't worry. You're among friends.

[Rex]

190. Smoke em if ya got em.

:smoke: