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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 06:26 AM
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Cease Fire Now
Sunday's horrific air attack by Israel on the Lebanese village of Qana has radically altered the dynamic of this current conflict. Before the attack, the United States was happy to allow Israel to act with impunity. The Arab League had accused Hezbollah of starting the whole thing, which was itself a remarkable thing. Many accused Israel of pushing too hard, of expending excessive violence in its campaign against the guerillas, but until Sunday it appeared that Israel was going to do its thing until it was satisfied.

Then came the air attack on a residential building where dozens of Lebanese civilians were hiding in the basement. "There were different accounts of the death toll," reported the New York Times on Monday morning. "Residents said as many as 60 people had been inside. News agencies reported that 56 had been killed, and that 34 of them were children. The Lebanese Red Cross, which conducted the rescue, counted 27 bodies, as many of 17 of them children. The youngest of the dead was 10 months old, and the oldest was 95. One was in a wheelchair."

Nicholas Blanford of the Lebanon Daily Star reported from Qana as the bodies were retrieved, even as Israel continued with its attacks. "An earth-mover ground down the lane and began clawing chunks of concrete away from the building," wrote Blanford. "Even as the rescue team toiled to recover the dead, Israeli jets continued to roar overhead and the thump of air strikes and exploding artillery shells reverberated around the steep valley. Amid the despair and the grim task of removing the victims, there was deep anger at what they regarded as the callous indifference of the West to their suffering. 'We will never wave the white flag. We won't retreat,' said Mohammad Shalhoub. 'I say to the West, this is not the kind of freedom and democracy we want.'"

This attack was bad enough on its face, but is made all the worse by where it happened. Qana is a name drenched with blood and outrage in the Arab world. Qana has seen these horrors before. In April of 1996, Israel began a military action against Beirut and southern Lebanon called Operation Grapes of Wrath.

There are many stories from Qana in April of 1996, but one is telling above all, and all to reminiscent of Sunday's carnage. On April 18, Qana was flooded with some 800 refugees from the fighting who were seeking protection from UN forces there. At about two in the afternoon, the village came under bombardment by Israeli 'proximity shells' - antipersonnel weapons which explode several meters above the ground and shower anyone below with razor-sharp shrapnel. The result was a blood-drenched scene of shredded humanity.

Robert Fisk, the decorated British journalist, was there. "It was a massacre," he wrote. "Israel's slaughter of civilians in this 10-day offensive - 206 by last night - has been so cavalier, so ferocious, that not a Lebanese will forgive this massacre. There had been the ambulance attacked on Saturday, the sisters killed in Yohmor the day before, the 2-year-old girl decapitated by an Israeli missile four days ago. And earlier yesterday, the Israelis had slaughtered a family of 12 - the youngest was a four-day-old baby - when Israeli helicopter pilots fired missiles into their home."

These stories barely made a dent in the American press in 1996, but were widely reported at length by both European and Middle Eastern media outlets. Photographs of headless babies and slaughtered civilians reached far and wide, inflaming a region already filled with rage against Israel and America.

On Sunday, it happened again.

In Beruit, the United Nations office was ransacked by protesters denouncing the world's inert reaction to the Israeli campaign. Secretary of State Condoleezzaa Rice's shuttle diplomacy was transformed into scuttle diplomacy as she turned on her heel and headed home, her abject failures following close behind.

The Arab news station Al Jazeera yanked its anchors off the screen and played scenes of the carnage in Qana for hours on end. The bodies of small children, bloody and dirty and unmoving, were shown again and again. Sarcastic remarks from news broadcasters - "This is the new Middle East," said one, in reference to Rice's comments from last week - stoked the rage that spread like wildfire across the region. The governments of Jordan and Egypt condemned the attack, and Syria described it as "state terrorism." The secretary-general of the Arab League demanded an international investigation.

On the heels of the attack, Israel announced it would be suspending air strikes in Lebanon for 48 hours. This decision did not hold for ten hours; in the southern Lebanese town of Taibe, Israel launched yet another series of air strikes, ostensibly to protect ground forces operating there.

Secretary Rice has begun urging the United Nations to broker a cease fire agreement, and to arrange for an international force that would help Lebanese forces manage their southern border. At the moment, however, this seems dead on arrival. Israeli Defense Minister Amir Peretz said in a speech to parliament, "It's forbidden to agree to an immediate cease-fire. Israel will expand and strengthen its activities against the Hezbollah."

It is notable that not even Israel pays heed to the wishes and attempted diplomacy of the United States anymore. The Bush administration has squandered its ability to serve as any kind of broker in the region, having chosen to allow Israel to do whatever it pleases. Now, the burgeoning democracy of Lebanon has been subsumed by a wave of violence and outrage. Israel, for its part, has thus far been completely unable to destroy Hezbollah with its vaunted military prowess, transforming the guerillas into heroes within the region. The attack in Qana has only reinforced that image.

It has to stop. Whatever ideas the Bush administration may have had regarding some "New Middle East" must be abandoned immediately, and a cease fire must be achieved. Israel, thinking to defend itself, has once again managed to manufacture new, radicalized enemies out of people who only wanted to live and work in peace. The peril is ours, as well; everyone in that region remembers Qana from ten years ago, and likewise understands that the missiles which created Sunday's carnage came from the United States.

It is enough.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 06:56 AM
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1. here here
well said.

:woohoo: :applause: :woohoo:
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 07:01 AM
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2. it's a good piece Will, but somehow it left me feeling...
...that the greater outrage was unexpressed. I'm sorry if that's a vague criticism, and I acknowledge that the fault is mine-- it's just that my anger has become so deep, and attempts to popularize dissent have come to seem so shallow, that the essay seems not to speak to me. I think that there is no longer any moral basis for further argument about the merits of Israel's aggression, or the United States' support for Israel's actions. In my universe Israel's moral bankruptcy is an axiom, and my country's support for Israeli aggression a source of deep shame. This piece argues for that position when I find the argument so self-evident that making it is almost a step backwards. Perhaps I'm simply the wrong audience. In any event, the construction is excellent, per your usual standards. I just get the impression that you're not completely convinced yet that this whole affair is evil beyond justification.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 07:03 AM
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I hear you
It's tricky to write about this stuff, especially when personal feelings become involved. If I let it all hang out, I risk sounding shrill. If I restrain myself and make the points without boiling over, I hear things like what you've said.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 07:28 PM
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15. WWHTD?
Edited on Mon Jul-31-06 07:28 PM by cryingshame
What Would Hunter Thompson Do?
Edit for smilie insertion :)
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 07:03 AM
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3. delete dupe
Edited on Mon Jul-31-06 07:04 AM by WilliamPitt
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 06:47 AM
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23. I'm with you mike_c. My hair has been on fire since the beginning of
this carnage. The "tipping point" seems to be pretty high for a lot of apologists and bystanders. This has been relentless slaughter and destruction since the beginning...a country, its people, its children, it's FUTURE - blasted to smithereens.

I'm glad people are finally getting in touch with their humanity, and feeling the inevitable OUTRAGE.

Welcome aboard Will. It's good to have your voice joining the chorus. This is madness, and we must see it, understand it, and point an unwavering finger at its evil perpetrators.

We have seen the enemy...
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 07:25 AM
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4. I understand DU's outrage over Israel getting its military hardware.......
.....from the US and I completely agree with the UN Secretary General that it's obvious there is no military solution for the entire Israeli Arab/Muslim/Hezbollah/Hamas/etc situation. Like it or not there will have to be a political answer to this entire matter for the violence to stop - if it stops.

Still I couldn't help but notice there was very little if any outrage when day-after-day it was Israeli men, women, and children who were who were being trapped and dying under rubble.

I personally don't think Hezbollah/Hamas/PLO/?? will ever allow the violence to completely stop until the Iran President's words are carried out.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 07:54 AM
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5. I'd certainly be outraged--
--if Hezbollah killed 700 Israeli civilians and Israel killed 50 Lebanese civilians.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 09:49 AM
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6. There is no "IF" about it because..............
Edited on Mon Jul-31-06 10:17 AM by Minnesota Libra
.....week-after-week and month-after-month Hamas/Hezbollah/PLO/?? carried out suicide bombings and remotely detonated pack pack bombs inside Israel. That is what I didn't see much outcry about from fellow DUers and still don't.

If there had been just 50 suicide and remote detonated bombings with just 14 people killed in each such bombing that would add up to 700 Israelis killed. Over a period of months and years there have been many many more suicide and remote detonated bombings carried out by Hamas/Hezbollah/PLO/?? inside Israel.

I know, I know, there will of course be reason/s why those bombings were perfectly acceptable but what Israel is doing now is not acceptable. As for me, I think BOTH SIDES and ALL Arab countries tolerating Hamas/Hezbollah/Al Qaeda/PLO/?? inside their borders should suffer crippling UN sanctions. Of course that would never work because only Israel is responsible for what goes on from inside their borders. Arab/Muslim countries for whatever reasons are never responsible for what terrorist groups do from inside their borders.

on edit: I don't want anyone thinking I condone or agree with what Israel is doing inside Lebanon because I don't. I do not agree with either side taking innocent lives, I'm simply trying to point out what I see as clear hypocrisy. The US isn't helping matters by being so overtly pro-Israel either. At the same time no Arab/Muslim country should be let off the hook with the argument of "we can't control......operating from inside our borders."


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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 07:12 PM
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14. Israel is attacking Lebanon. Hamas and the PLO are not there.
Hezbollah has not carried out any suicide bomb attacks within Israel.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 08:39 PM
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16. You honestly believe......
......all that Arab/Muslim propaganda?? :rofl: I've seen the images on TV just like others have - but then I'm not trying to find reasons for letting any one group off the hook.:sarcasm:

Anyway, this is going nowhere because you obviously think Muslims/Arabs are not guilty of suicide bombings/pack pack bombings - only Israel is guilty of anything. Me on the other hand, don't believe a word of it - they are ALL guilty - Arabs/Muslims and Jews are as guilty as the others.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 09:07 PM
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19. Hamas definitely is doing suicide bombing in Israel.
Hezbollah has not been doing suicide bombings in Israel. Check your facts. No Lebanese suicide bombers. At least so far.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 08:51 PM
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18. No offense, but...
If so much as a firecracker goes off in Israel, it gets top spot on cable news for several hours. Was it a terrorist firecracker? Has anyone taken credit for the scorched "cluster-bee" wrapper left in the street? Breaking news, firecracker explosion in Israel may have been an M-80.

If someone is unfortunate enough to die, we learn their full personal histories. We meet their children. We know where they lived, where they worked, what they were doing right up until they got killed. We know their shoe size and their taste in pop music. We also got to hear about the righteous and just and unquestionable group reprisal that the perfect and just and indeed, Chosen By God IDF conducted against those towelheaded sand nazis.

Surely you'll forgive us if some of us take the time to express the side that is not plastered across headlines, tickertapes, and front pages. When the US media says, more or less, "56 dead? Oh, they're Arabs, fuck 'em, let's hear about Taylor Hicks", it only adds to the outrage.

I hate to be crass about it, but Israeli victims of terror and violence dominate the spotlight 364 days out of the year. If you wish to only hear about them, then that's your perogative - It's real easy to do. Stop reading DU and other sites that recognize that the Lebanese are dying just as brutally as Israelis have, and go watch Fox news where you'll learn that only Israelis are human beings in the middle east and are the sole victims of aggression in history.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 06:37 AM
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22. Apparently you are the one who is selectively reading.................
Edited on Tue Aug-01-06 06:43 AM by Minnesota Libra
....only what they want to see/hear because there is a message in almost everyone of my posts and definitely an overall message about both sides concerning the Middle East. The Arabs/Muslims/Hamas/Hezbollah/PLO/?? and Israelis/Jews are just as guilty as the other side of instigating violence.

I have a couple of issues with people at DU concerning this whole mess. Number one, some people at DU seem to think Arabs/Muslims/Hamas/Hezbollah/PLO/?? can not be held responsible for what any terrorist group does from inside their borders because the Arab/Muslim country in question "can't control" the terrorist group. That is pure BS and merely a way of letting one side off the hook while holding the other side responsible for their actions. That approach is wrong whether it's done at DU or anywhere else.

Number two, people at DU only seem to have taken notice of all the violence in the Middle East since Israel started fighting back. No one at DU seemed to care and definitely didn't seem to think it was wrong when Israel was getting hit with suicide bombers, remote controlled pack pack bombs, etc day-after-day and month-after-month. So the overall message from DUers seems to be Israeli/Jewish deaths aren't important but Arabs/Muslims deaths are very important. That is pure BS now and always will be pure BS, regardless of who is spewing it.

BTW, I have a star beside my name which means I'm a donating member so I'm not going anywhere.

on edit: I don't want anyone thinking I'm letting idiot boy and his administration off the hook because I'm not. It used to be that the US stepped in and acted as a referee and brokered a peace between the two sides. That has changed and believe we will pay in the months and years to come for what idiot boy is not doing now. Talk about being held responsible for what people/leaders/others do from inside a country's borders, oh yes, we will be held responsible and the price will be enormous too.




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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 05:02 PM
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24. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't
From what I understand it's only with this recent series of events that hte Near East issue got prime time airing here on DU, rather than being shunted into the Israel / Palestine forum. And I'll be honest I avoided that forum, because the last thing I need is the headache of arguing with people who have cemented themselves to their particular camps and verbally gun each other down. So to be perfectly honest, I have no idea how DU usually responds to this stuff.

To be honest though I've seen no shortage of people like yourself here lately giving Israel its share of time as well. So I'm not quite sure what your complaint is. It's certainly not as if Israel's side is seeing no coverage - The US media is extremely solid in taking Israel's side in all things. I've heard nothing but a steady stream of "right to defend itself", accusations that collude with Israel's defense minister's statement that EVERYONE in South Lebanon is a terrorist, excuses for Qana, and of course frequent rehashes of the Beirut bombing that killed all those Marines, with coverage slanted to make all Lebanese guilty.

So I'm not quite sure what you expect. It seems to me, and this is just how it appears, that you want us to give equal coverage to the 45 or so Israeli dead in this particular conflict, that we give to the 700 Arab dead (between Lebanon and Gaza). Now if I put that together with your calling opposing viewpoints to your own "Arab/Muslim propoganda", and your statement right here that seems to imply that Arabs and Muslims should be held collectively responsable for terrorism... Well, you start cming across as looking pretty anti-Arab / oslamophobic, at least to me.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 10:04 AM
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7. we used to play the 'honest broker'
for many in the region, that suited them despite the obvious ties we had to Israel. The contributions to Egypt, Jordan, and other Arab states in the region kept folks believing in some even hand somewhere in our government that was guiding negotiations.

This time around there has been a bungling of diplomacy in which Rice was seen as waiting for Israel to slaughter more Lebanese before she would even travel to the region to talk about a ceasefire. Then they had the expedited delivery of 'precision-guided' missiles which were promptly used against a UN position to tragic effect. It's hard to see, except in their failure to restrain Israel, where the US isn't involved in Israel's affairs as many are quick to defend the independence between our countries.

It's not such a stretch for some to assume that the US has no interest in restraining Israel.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 10:05 AM
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8. Cease-Fire Now: link to final
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 10:09 AM
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9. Unfortunately the cheerleader can do nothing but cheer them on to the
most bitter tumultuous Iranian, Syrian involvement.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 10:13 AM
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10. There needs to be
a cease fire, followed by a negotiated settlement. At this time, it is painfully obvious that the current administration lacks the capacity to lead such an effort. It will take a coalition of nations, willing and able to keep the effort from being derailed by Rice & Co.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 02:50 PM
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11. .
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chiffon Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 03:59 PM
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12. Kick. This is far too important to drown down.
I watched live coverage of this early Sunday morning about 3:30 a.m. CST over international television. There was a press crew near the devastation in Qa na and they were at the sight shortly after the strike with the cameras rolling.

One fact that may or may not be realized, is that their footage was broadcast live over the Lebanese airways. Hence many Lebanese protesters swarmed the UN with understandable outrage.

I watch the carnage with utter disbelief. It was indeed quite powerful.

'Cease Fire Now'

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 05:08 PM
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13. snuh
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 09:54 PM
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20. bah
K&R
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 08:45 PM
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17. Snuh?????? k & r!!!
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DallasNE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 10:45 PM
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21. Sadly, A Ceasfire Is A Pipe Dream
Israel quickly broke the ceasefire announced by the US as a face-saving gesture for Rice's miserable failure at diplomacy. On the heels of that Israel announced a major call-up of reserve forces.

I'm afraid the genie is out of the bottle this time. A that is mostly because Bush squandered all of his capital on his mistaken invasion of Iraq.

Israel is not only going to create a sizable buffer zone between Lebanon and Israel but also between Lebanon and Syria, trapping 300,000 Lebanoneze inside Syria. At least that is Israel's master plan. Who know what this may provoke but it certainly will not be a ceasefire. And good luck in getting either a UN or NATO force to bail Israel out.
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