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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:25 PM
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Redstate.com *BLAMES THE PAGE* for not saying "no"
Edited on Sun Oct-01-06 10:49 PM by Bluebear
FAMILY VALUES!!
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...Could I, as President of the United States find myself attracted to a 20-something female intern? Yes (and, for the record, that likelihood becomes much greater if I’d at one point in my life become the husband of Hillary Clinton). Could I, as a congressman from Florida, find myself attracted to a male high school lacrosse player? No.

Ah, so there is a difference between having an affair and being a pedophile...

Having said that, though, pay attention to this: the only people whose motivations I question more than those in political office, are 18 year-old kids who are so compelled to go to Washington and work for those in political office. Note: All of a sudden the "kid" is 18?

Kiddy sex abuse laws should to be focused on kids; a six year-old molested by a stepfather, or a 12 year old felt up by a preist. I don’t believe it’s right to assume that every young adult is so blind to morality (or doesn’t have the capacity to say ‘no’) that they should automatically be protected by child molestation laws simply because they can’t walk into a 7-11 and buy cigarettes for another four months.

Oh, yes the world was big and scary when I was in high school too. Hell, were it not for the legislation Foley’s about to be fried on… the same, by the way, which says it’s ’rape’ for an 18 year-old girl to fool around with her 17 year-old boyfriend… I might not have been able to go out and land jobs at ESPN Radio and FOX Spots all before I graduated. I would have been too busy being molested I’m sure. Thank God the government was there to save me from a 50-something congressman from Florida finding me online, because without that law I sure wouldn’t have known to say ‘no’, or, you know, turn off the computer.

6 year olds are victims. 8, and 9 year-olds, maybe some 12 or or even 16 years-olds, in the right circumstances. But read it… read what just got Foley kicked out of Congress. And you tell me where in this exchange you’re led to believe that this kid’s parents ever taught him the word ‘no’.

http://breakingnews.redstate.com/blogs/portlandradio/2006/sep/30/its_hard_in_the_big_world
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MsKandice01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:27 PM
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1. Republicans are sick individuals...
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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 12:57 AM
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29. Republicans tend to blame the victim.
And why do they do this? They do this to shift blame away from their party for setting up many conditions in this society that cause devastation.

Republicans support and enable poor business practices

which includes cheap labor, unsafe working conditions, unsafe consumer products and more.

Republicans support and enable repressive religious authoritarianism.


They blame people on welfare for their own situation.

They blame minimum wage workers ofr their own plight.



If a Republican molests minors they blame the minor so as to shift blame away from their party in order to hold power and to continue their crummy economic and business policies which includes deregulation and cheap labor.


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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:28 PM
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2. Ewwwwww.
Desperation has a rotten smell, doesn't it?
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:29 PM
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3. Oh my! That's hilarious (except for the excusing sexual harassment bit)
"18 year-old kids who are so compelled to go to Washington and work for those in political office"

Jeeze, these kids, including the Republican pages, are model citizens--high achievers, civic-minded, and responsible enough apparently to fend off advances by a politically powerful pervert. It's like that cartoon preacher from the early Bloom County cartoon who chastised women on the street for tempting him with their sexy bodies.

How DARE you turn me on, you teen boy strumpet!
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:42 PM
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13. and how dare you not say no when I groom you!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:53 PM
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14. Indeed. uppity. nt
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:29 PM
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4. These are the same people who say rape victims deserve it
because they dress too slutty.

And the Clinton defense? :eyes: Please. I saw that one coming ages ago. You'd think they'd come up with something more original.

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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:29 PM
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5. There's quite a bit wrong with this post
But I'll just mention one:

read what just got Foley kicked out of Congress

He resigned. Right away. He didn't get kicked out. He left.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:29 PM
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6. So the guy wants to have sex with a minor ...
and they're trying to justify it. It makes me sick to know that these people share my species. :puke:
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:30 PM
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7. Pages are teenagers, Interns are adults
Foley sexually hit continually on teen-age boys. It's that simple.
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NoodleBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:30 PM
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8. ah, yes, blame the victim
because it's much easier to kick someone when they're down then to lend a hand up.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:30 PM
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9. Perfect!....Just what we wanted......They are defending pedophiles
Edited on Sun Oct-01-06 10:31 PM by Webster Green
We got 'em right where we want 'em.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:36 PM
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12. "DEFENDING PEDOPHILES" indeed! And for WHAT?
WHAT is bubbling below the surface here to make these sickoids defend this so vigorously?
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:32 PM
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10. These people are delusional....
...sick and twisted. This fucknuts, a stupid, moronic ex-jock who doesn't have the brain capacity God gave banana slugs, cannot tell the difference between right and wrong. It's the sports metaphor mentality that always leads to this way of thinking (if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying; nice guys finish last; just do it; etc). The ultimate refuge for stupid jocks is the character building issue and they just lost that one.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:34 PM
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11. Red State, you are a tool blog
And right now those pagez Pwon j00 and all your evil kind. Keep spinning this one. Have some more rope.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:56 PM
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15. It's always so much easier to blame the victim. n/t
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 11:08 PM
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16. What about FOLEY'S "no"?
No, I won't use my elected office to ingratiate myself with impressionable young people who may be cowed or flattered by my attentions.

No, I won't violate the trust of the families who send their teens to Capitol Hill.

No, I won't indulge my twink obsession with boys who I meet through the privilege of my position.

I'm a 53-year-old man who knows right from wrong, and I say no to doing wrong.
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What about that, redstate? Didn't Foley's parents teach him to say NO?


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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 11:15 PM
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17. How does a page go against a powerful member of congress?
Remember, Foley was reported in 2005, and the Grand Old Perverts said pooff, ignoring it.
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 11:17 PM
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18. Is this supposed to be sarcasm?
I hope so....because if not......they are sicker than I could ever have imagined....
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 11:19 PM
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19. Just say NO!
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 11:20 PM
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20. the same people who blame the woman for getting raped
she asked for it

if she hadn't worn those clothes...



fuck em all
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 11:21 PM
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21. Read this and read this well
This explains exactly who these people are. That's how devoted they are to keeping their people in power, they'd make excuses for this disturbing behavior.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:59 AM
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34. 'This explains exactly who these people are.'
PRECISELY.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 11:24 PM
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22. Translation: "These damn teenage boys need to quit giving Repukes boners!"
"What kind of sick freaks are these boys!? Continually arousing Republicans! Have they no shame!?"

Nothing like blaming the victim.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 12:13 AM
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26. maybe he was getting hard reading the emails....
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:52 AM
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33. .
Yes indeed.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 03:21 PM
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35. .
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 11:33 PM
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23. as I said in a previous thread, they will somehow
find a way to "forgive" this creep. This letter is beyond stupid. disgusting bottom feeders
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 11:35 PM
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24. If Foley had a "D" after his name, would he still have written this?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 12:11 AM
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25. he doesn`t have kids
if he does ,i feel sorry for them for having a dad who wouldn`t give a shit if some sick fuck emailed that shit to his son...
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 12:35 AM
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27. oh he probably does.
This is just who these people are.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 12:43 AM
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28. The kid tried to deflect the conversation
It was Foley who continued to bring it back to talking about sex. I don't know if I could read the IM's again ... having two sons and remembering how they were at 16. Physically they looked mature, but they were still adolescents. If a predator had approached my sons as Foley did to this boy, I would personally put his meat in a grinder and make sure he never dreamed of my sons ass up in the air while he masturbated. The sick fuck.

Red State is trying to deflect the obvious...how can you trust a leadership that claims they can protect you as a nation, but can't even protect teenagers from a sexual deviate?
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 01:55 AM
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30. These people will shit talk their way out of everything??!!
Even the must berating situation is blamed on the victim, FOLEY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS ACTIONS!
There are monkeys smarter then redstate.com

They are bitter because Foley got busted!! I love it...Back your shit you repuke bastards, your going home!
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 02:06 AM
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31. They probably think it's okay to rape Democrats
This is what it's come to. This is how they use their power. This is how sick they are.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 02:12 AM
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32. Wehoever wrote that is sick
I hope he gets help.

Eight- or nine-year-olds maybe? I cannot believe I read that.
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