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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 05:11 PM
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Is Bush about to attack Iran?
Remember the Eisenhower!
www.cannonfire.blogspot.com asks the question!
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A "strike group" led by the nuclear aircraft carrier Eisenhower is heading to the Persian Gulf today. Many observers presume that Bush plans to hit Iran. I think the strategy could be more devious.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 05:12 PM
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1. Yea it is possible because he has to have a distraction from
Foley...
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 05:17 PM
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5. An attack on Iran would result in such a clusterfuck
that they'd manufacture GOP sex scandals to distract from it.

Anyway somebody else here said that the attack wasn't going to happen until Oct. 21. and a while back they were saying the invasion was going to happen in June 2005. I have a hard time keeping up with it all.

Perhaps there should be a special DU:Iran Invasion Prophecy forum.
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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 05:59 PM
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10. Sort of reminds me of the continuously changing date
of the Rapture. I believe there has been at least 3 different dates in recent times. When it doesn't happen, they just assign it a new date.

:rofl:
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 05:15 PM
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2. Nah. They can't hit Iran hard enough for it to matter. It would cost them
the election for sure, which is the only thing they care about. They might be trying to egg Iran into overreacting, which would play better for them getting what they want out of a Democratic Congress. But again, I doubt Iran is stupid enough to fall for it.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 05:16 PM
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3. Strike Iran with no backup invasion force and no allies?
Well, all righty then.

So far, this is merely a classic Show of Force. It will fail, unfortunately, because Georgie's military weakness and total friendlessness is well known to the world outside the White House. For a Show of Force, you actually have to be able to back up your threats. George can't. Rummy has not told him this, however, so he may try. Whether the United States ever recovers from such a colossal mistake is the real question on the table.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 05:17 PM
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4. here
The coming war against Iran - Part 12
The coming war against Iran part 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12

The previous coverage in this series on the preparations being made for war by American, Israeli and Kurdish troops on Iranian territory is now being followed by new information indicating that various units of the Navy must achieve a state of readiness by October 1st, and that the planning as it relates to Iran has been forwarded from the Pentagon to the White House. Sam Gardiner: 'I think the plan's been picked: bomb the nuclear sites in Iran'.

The Dutch in the original article has been translated into English by Ben Kearney
Several Navy units have been ordered to be ready for departure in the direction of Iran: 'The Nation has learned that the Bush Administration and the Pentagon have moved up the deployment of a major "strike group" of ships, including the nuclear aircraft carrier Eisenhower as well as a cruiser, destroyer, frigate, submarine escort and supply ship, to head for the Persian Gulf, just off Iran's western coast.' Time Magazine reports: '<...> a submarine, an Aegis-class cruiser, two minesweepers and two mine hunters <...> said to be ready to move by Oct. 1. <...> Coupled with the CNO's request for a blockade review , a deployment o fminesweepers to the west coast of Iran would seem to suggest that amuch discussed--but until now largely theoretical--prospect has become real: that the U.S. may be preparing for war with Iran.'

Servicemen with fearful misgivings warn critics
The question now is whether the readying of the troops is an indication of the long-awaited attack on Iran. Some people aren't taking any risks and are trying to avert hostilities. One way that they are doing this is by pointing out the phenomena of the drill-that-suddenly-becomes-reality and the false flag operation (an attack that you carry out and in turn blame on your enemy) - events that are sometimes combined, which may have occurred on 9/11 and 7/7.In the case of Iran, a third element is at play - warnings from relevant servicemen to a few critical followers of developments concerning the moves toward war by the U.S. ' being alerted to the strike group deployment, warned , "We have about seven weeks to try and stop this next war from happening"', reports The Nation. The deadline that McGovern refers to coincides with the American Congressional elections on November 7th.
'Accordingto Lieut. Mike Kafka, a spokesman at the headquarters of the SecondFleet, based in Norfolk, Virginia, the Eisenhower Strike Group, bristling with Tomahawk cruise missiles, has received orders to depart the United States in a little over a week. Other official sources in the public affairs office of the Navy Department at the Pentagon confirm that this powerful armada is scheduled to arrive off the coastof Iran on or around October 21. <...> The Eisenhower had been in port at the Naval Station Norfolk for several years for refurbishing and refueling of its nuclear reactor; it had not been scheduled to depart for a new duty station until at least a month later, and possibly not till next spring. Family members, before the orders, had moved into the area and had until then expected to be with their sailor-spouses and parents in Virginia for some time yet. First word of the early dispatch of the "Ike Strike" group to the Persian Gulf region came from several angry officers on the ships involved, who contacted antiwar critics like retired Air Force Col. Sam Gardiner and complained that they were being sent to attack Iran without any order from the Congress. "This is very serious," said Ray McGovern, a former CIA threat-assessment analyst who got early word of the Navy officers' complaints about the sudden deployment orders', writes The Nation. '"Planners always plan," says a Pentagon official' to Time Magazine.

Illegal war against Iran nonetheless lawful according to Bush
On CNN's The Situation Room, host Wolf Blitzer questioned retired Air Force Colonel Sam Gardiner: 'How close in your opinion is the U.S., the Bush administration to giving that go-ahead order? GARDINER: It's been given. In fact we have probably been executing military operations inside Iran for at least 18 months. The evidence is overwhelming...<...> They probably have had two objectives going back 18 months. The first was to gather intelligence, where's the Iranian nuclear program. The second has been to prepare dissident groups for phase two, which will be the strike, which will come as the next phase I think.' For more on this see American troops already on the ground in Iran in part 9 of this Iran series.
Gardiner speaking to Blitzer: 'Number one, we have learned from "TIME" magazine today that some U.S. Naval forces have been alerted for deployment. That is a major step. That's first. The second thing is the sources suggest the plan's not in Pentagon. The plan has gone to the White House. That's not normal planning. When the plan goes to the White House that means we've gone to a different '. Gardiner tells The Nation: '"I think the plan's been picked: bomb the nuclear sites in Iran," says Gardiner. "It's a terrible idea, it's against US law and it's against international law, but I think they've decided to do it."'

more

http://deepjournal.com/p/7/a/en/115.html
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 05:22 PM
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6. i think so
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 05:23 PM
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7. Don't forget to read the comments!
A poster says that there have already been put options placed in preparation for something. Can this be checked out?
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dave502d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 05:54 PM
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8. No. n/t
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 05:55 PM
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9. That May Be All They Have Left.
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