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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:26 PM
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Dobson on Foleygate: Fault of an 'Oversexualized' Society-Not House Leader
Dobson Statement On Foleygate: No Mention Of House Leadership
By Greg Sargent |

So an official statement about Foleygate has just landed in our inbox from James Dobson's powerful evangelical organization Focus on the Family. The statement demonstrates plenty of mercy, and very little fire and brimstone. There's no word in it about the House GOP leadership, no word on whether it had a moral obligation to act sooner on Foley, and no word on its current conduct. It notes that "if" Foley is guilty of what he's been accused of, then it's right that he resigned and it's right that "authorities" (it isn't specified which ones) are looking into whether "he" committed a criminal act. And it says that "this is not a time to be talking about politics."


From Focus on the Family:

Colorado Springs, Colo. -- Focus on the Family Action Senior Vice President of Government and Public Policy Tom Minnery issued the following statement today about the scandal involving ex-Rep. Mark Foley, R-Fla:

"This is not a time to be talking about politics, but about the well-being of those boys who appear to have been victimized by Rep. Foley. If he is indeed guilty of what he is accused of, it is right that he resigned and that authorities are looking into whether criminal charges are warranted.

"This is yet another sad example of our society's oversexualization, especially as it affects the Internet, and the damage it does to all who get caught in its grasp."


http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2006/oct/02/dobson_statement_on_foleygate_no_mention_of_house_gopleadership
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:26 PM
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1. I wonder why he didn't apologize for Clinton in that fashion?
Oh wait...he's a DEMOCRAT!
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cspanlovr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:27 PM
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2. Ah, the internet did it!
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:33 PM
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10. Now that it's the Internet's fault, they'll probably tell everyone that
...Al Gore really did invent it, after all. :eyes:
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:28 PM
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3. Isn't he the one who urged fathers to shower with their sons
and show off their "equipment"?
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Tyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:52 PM
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19. Don't you know that that's bonding?
There are certain things that as a father you need to do with your son. Showing your son your dick so that he knows yours is bigger than his is part of the kid's education. You know, like teaching him how to fish and how to break in a baseball mitt. What kind of family did you grow up in anyway?
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:28 PM
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4. Bullcrap.
This is the example of the consequences of following people like Dobson, and of the influence they've had on certain segments of society. People are taught to hate themselves and their sexuality, and ultimately, that explodes in horrible ways -- such as what we're seeing now with Foley.

Tinfoil me if you want, but I don't think it's a coincidence that we're seeing a rash of this among the "moral, family-values, Christian" politicians.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:29 PM
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5. Well color me surprised
not
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:29 PM
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6. What a sick, demented, hypocritical monster this Dobson is.
He'll rot in hell for all the shit that he has said and done.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:29 PM
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7. How about a society that demonizes gays?
Or, at least a certain fundie sect of it demonizes them.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:30 PM
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8. What Good Christians!
:sarcasm:
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:31 PM
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9. Can't blame society for this one.
We all see and hear the same provocative messages in the media. 99.9% of us aren't pedophiles because of it.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:33 PM
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11. But politicizing an illegal war in Iraq is OK James? Is that it?
Dobson is a flaming a$$hole anti-xtian Beelzebub!

:mad::grr::mad::grr:
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:34 PM
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12. Which "excuses" Dobson's problems, too, I suppose
So these "conservatives" can't control themselves, so they want to control society.
How are they "small government" again?

This stuff makes my brain scream.
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Tyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:42 PM
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13. This one obvously caught them totally off guard
Guess that Personal Responsibility shtick that they have used to justify everything from cutting social programs to condemning moral turpitude in others all of a sudden isn't working for them anymore.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:43 PM
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14. WHAT?!
"This is yet another sad example of our society's oversexualization, especially as it affects the Internet, and the damage it does to all who get caught in its grasp."

Don't the rethugs always criticize us bleeding-heart liberals for trying to blame society for bad things done by individuals?

Are they turning into LIBERALS before our very eyes?
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guinivere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:46 PM
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15. So it's the internet's fault?
:spray:

Which means it's Al Gore's fault, and thus, Clinton's fault. :silly:
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:48 PM
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16. So Dobson lashes out at the uhm "internet grasp?"
Oh My God! No pun intended. Did he say like words about Bill Clinton being "grasped" by an overly sexualized society?
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:49 PM
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17. And from Tony Perkins over at Family Research Council...
Well, you just knew this was coming, didn't you...

Pro-Homosexual Political Correctness Sowed Seeds for Foley Scandal

Democrats seeking to exploit the resignation of Rep. Mark Foley (R-FL) are right to criticize the slow response of Republican congressional leaders to his communications with male pages. But neither party seems likely to address the real issue, which is the link between homosexuality and child sexual abuse. Foley, an unmarried 52-year-old representative, had always refused to answer questions about his sexual orientation. Now that his emails and messages to teenage male pages have been revealed, it appears clear that Foley is a homosexual with a particular attraction to underage boys. While pro-homosexual activists like to claim that pedophilia is a completely distinct orientation from homosexuality, evidence shows a disproportionate overlap between the two. Although almost all child molesters are male and less than 3% of men are homosexual, about a third of all child sex abuse cases involve men molesting boys--and in one study, 86% of such men identified themselves as homosexual or bisexual. Ignoring this reality got the Catholic Church into trouble over abusive priests, and now it is doing the same to the House GOP leadership. They discounted or downplayed earlier reports concerning Foley's behavior--probably because they did not want to appear "homophobic." The Foley scandal shows what happens when political correctness is put ahead of protecting children.


Yeah, that's the ticket: the GOP leadership was afraid of appearing homophobic. :eyes:
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:53 PM
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21. sounds like a COORDINATED response does it not????
all the right wing christofascists got with rove et al to coordinate and plan an organized response.

just like the coordinated cover up.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:52 PM
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18. Oh dear gawd!!!!
Now it's the "War on the internets" again? These people are so removed from reality it's a freaking crime. If there was a tax on ignorance, Minnery, Dobson, et al. would all be bankrupt and on Skid Row. Obfuscating, per usual.
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Giant Robot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:52 PM
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20. I try to be more polite when posting on here
But fuck him.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:04 PM
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22. I called yesterday, demanding to know WHY dobby hadn't rcommented
on foley yet. can't wait to hear what pat and the rest of the "odour of sanctity" boys have to say.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:05 PM
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23. conservative christians are the best friends child sex abusers ever had.
that's the real headline.

social conservatism breeds, aids and abets the abuse of children, period.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:06 PM
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24. There's your "Culture of Personal Responsibility", right there.
"I blame society!"
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:13 PM
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25. We are being figuratively sodomized by over-Dobsonized-type
utterances.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:37 PM
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26. All that rape and incest in the bible were due to the internet?
The bible is riddled with instances of The Lord advocating the rape of "comely virgins" as spoils of war. Not to mention a whole slough of notable "men of God" including Abraham, Lot, Isaac, Jacob, and Esau, committing varying shades of incest. Of course, Lot claimed to be drunk while screwing his daughters.

I guess it was the naughty pictures on the internet that caused it all.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:38 PM
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27. So really, Dobson has just blamed EVERYBODY but the GOP
Imagine that.
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phylny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:46 PM
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28. Dobson, obviously a member of the party of personal responsibility.
:puke:
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