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eeyore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:09 PM
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Okay, enough with the Hastert FAT jokes!
What the hell is going on here? I think we have enough on the guy that we don't need to be constantly harping on his weight. Yes, the dude is fat. I think that's pretty apparent at first glance. Get the hell over it.

Let's just step over to the other side and see what you think, okay?

How you would react to people in Freeperville harping on the following?

That Max Cleland shure is a crippled son of a bitch!
Boy, that Barney Frank.....what a fucking faggot!
Man, did you see the size of Barack Obama's lips? I bet he really likes fried chicken too!

I bet we'd all have a lot of respect for those comments, eh?

Geez...the piling on mentality of people can get really fucking sick! Go ahead and kick the bastard into the ground, he's total scum. But I really think this Junior High metality of rippiing on his weight is really disgusting.

No, I'm not a fat guy, but I'm sure seeing a hell of a lot of fatophobes around here lately.

:puke:
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Fierce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:10 PM
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1. It's easy to make fun of the fat guy.
And they don't mind, because they're so jolly!

/sarcasm

You're absolutely right.
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Trouser Trout Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:12 PM
Response to Reply #1
6. So "Fat Bastert" is out? Damn. n/t
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momzno1 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:50 PM
Response to Reply #1
101. imagine if your mother or grandmother were
walking down the street and some smug asshole in a car leans out the window screaming
"Hey Fatty"
Imagine the heartache of a teenage girl that doesn't stand a chance of being liked by the boys
because she is fat - and everyone laughs at her "behind her back", right in front of her.
Fat people are not "less than" or natural targets for hate - though people feel free to comment
on the size of others.
Some reasons that women get fat early are:
having been sexually abused - gee, that must be her fault, right?
the torment of fat Phobic people can add to it too.
So, all you "Fatists" F*CK OFF and GET A LIFE.
Can I call you out because you are ugly as sin?
Grow a sensitivity gene, will you?
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Fierce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 10:02 AM
Response to Reply #101
146. Are you replying directly to me?
If so, did you miss my "Sarcasm" tag?

Or the part where I said "I totally agree" to the OP?
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momzno1 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #146
149. sorry, this pissed me off so much that
I didn't put my response in the correct place.
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Fierce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 09:11 AM
Response to Reply #149
152. No prob.
It just really surprised me. FTR, I totally agree with you, too.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 02:12 PM
Response to Reply #149
157. Are you sure you didn't just want to wedge your way in to the front
Edited on Sat Oct-07-06 02:43 PM by Kurovski
of the line?

Because that's what it looks like. :-)
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:11 PM
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2. Ah Hastert is not fat its all in your mind
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:12 PM
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4. No doubt,
hastert is a greedy fatbastert.
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:13 PM
Response to Reply #2
9. I did that once and I wished I had not done that - Talking about ...
one being overweight. Not nice.
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:16 PM
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14. You never hear John Laesch or his people call him fat
Just me I hate this man he lied to Veterans here and got cought. You don;t lie to me
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:11 PM
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3. Ahhhhhh.......
the PC police. I was wondering when they'd show up.

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eeyore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:17 PM
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17. So you think there are no people reading this board who are that fat?
Everyone looks just like you, and that's the way it should be. Great fucking attitude there.

It has nothing to do with polital correctness. It's called having some awareness that you are using insults that call out his appearance for no other reason than that he just looks disgusting to you. Great. Say that to the face of each and every obese member of this board. I bet that will go really well for you.

PC my ass! It's called common decency and respect for the feelings of fellow human beings. I'm not talking about Hastert here - he can go fuck himself. I'm talking about the people here who look just like him. I bet your comments make them feel really great.

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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 03:45 PM
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87. How do you know what I look like?
Guess what, I'm 5'10" and weigh 220 lbs. I'M FAT! And not AT ALL self conscious about it. I guess your gig at the "psychic hotline" isn't working out that well, huh? Get over yourself. :eyes:
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Blackthorn Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:02 PM
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104. Word. I'm a big guy too. And I could fucking care less.
No one is aiming direct personal insults at me so why would I be offended. No one is directing personal insults to ANY member of DU, and if they did the appropriate authorities would take the appropriate action. Why would anyone take offence at something being directed at someone else simply because you share a similar trait.

It really, really pisses me off that people feel the need to enforce their beliefs and standards onto other people. I fucking hate it when religious people do it and I fucking hate it when do-gooder PC types do it.
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eeyore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:49 PM
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121. I really don't have anything to get over...
I'm pretty damn happy with myself, and I'm glad you are too. I just happen to favor an environment that doesn't remind me of being at a frat party.

I'm all for you feeling good about yourself, but I guess you just don't give a shit that there are others here who don't feel the same way about themselves.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #121
131. There's a little icon......
that you can click and make me go away. Use it. I am.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:55 PM
Response to Reply #3
60. A better name, perhaps .......
.... The Sanctimony Squad.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:12 PM
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5. Oh for fuck's sake.
That lazy son of a bitch needs to take a hybrid to get to his SUV.

Fuck him.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:12 PM
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7. Good thing you didn't mention Candy Crowley...
:hide:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:15 PM
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13. "I want Candy" Crowley?
:hi:
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #13
22. AAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!
You went an' did it!

:hi:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:26 PM
Response to Reply #22
94. "Crawling for Candy" as I used to say.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:13 PM
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8. So you're saying we should make fat jokes about Sensenbrenner instead?
Seriously though, I get your point.
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:13 PM
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10. You want to see fat hate?
Post anything about Candy Crowley. Anything she said or did. Just any stupid statement will do. More than half the responses will be about her appearance as a response to what she said.

It's the only socially acceptable predjudice left. People are even more vicious in an online forum where they are anonymous. It's like they forget there are fat people here too reading. It's very disconcerting if you are overweight I can assure you.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:16 PM
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15. you're right.
I had gastric bypass surgery about 6 weeks ago.As a fit,fat woman,I suffered my share of jokes and rejection.When you have as much on these guys,why bring yourself down to their level?
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 02:14 PM
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67. OT: hi there...
Good for you for making that life-changing decision for yourself! I hope you're feeling well. I bet you want to get back to the gym!

I'm sure it wasn't easy (the decision or the surgery). I have a close friend (male) who had the surgery and had to go back in for 4 surgeries for complications. Giving up sugar and sugary sauces for life is a total lifestyle decision and took him a year to get over the "loss" and stop grieving for it. Anyway, he's lost 265 pounds and is in a normal man's "large" now (he's tall).

Myself, I went back to the gym to start lifting with a trainers in May, and I have seen a lot of changes in my body, but *sigh* I am still about 50-60 pounds overweight (that would be "FAT" to the incredibly "sensitive" people in this thread). I guess some people would call me chunky or chubby or even fat (I'm only 5'1" and a size 14 now down from an 18), but I am pretty darned fit and REALLY STRONG (I can leg press 600 pounds - no exaggeration) and can squat 350.

Anyway, like you, it irritates me when posters focus on physical attributes (like for Ann Coulter's underweight or Denny Hastert's overweight). These people are heinous and immoral - isn't that enough ammunition without having to focus on juvenile name-calling?


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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:28 PM
Response to Reply #10
95. Actually Candy is very good-looking
and very, very fat.
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Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 11:43 PM
Response to Reply #10
140. Wrong. Fat people call thin people names, too, and insist it's ok >
because they're only trying to "help" since thin people *must* be anorexic, sick or not eating properly, and this somehow makes them deserving of rude comments, criticism & advice from strangers. I've tried calling them on it, but they just get angry & insist criticizing skinny people for their weight is totally different from criticizing fat people for their weight. :crazy:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #140
155. Ever see Mo'nique do her stand-up?
"Skinny bitches" all the way through. Sometimes she makes really good points, and sometimes she just sounds out-of-control nuts, but the important thing is she can be enormously funny.

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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:14 PM
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11. He's not fat, he's big boned
Thanks Cartman!

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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #11
24. BEEFCAKE!
:rofl:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:58 PM
Response to Reply #24
137. On the hoof.
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:25 PM
Response to Reply #11
28. I like to think of him as "puffy" n/t
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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 09:06 PM
Response to Reply #28
134. No, Denny is just 'HUSKY'
A size '86' 'Husky'. heheh...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:34 PM
Response to Reply #11
38. denny isn't fat, he's
Edited on Thu Oct-05-06 01:39 PM by zidzi
greedy.
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eeyore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:36 PM
Response to Reply #38
40. Michael Moore's fat too....
and plenty of people on the other side call him greedy as well. They're pretty cool when they do it, so I guess that makes it cool for us too!

Yay! I love hypocrisy!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:41 PM
Response to Reply #40
46. Soooo? Lots of good people are
fat..denny has his own particular brand of greediness that oozes outta his pores.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:35 PM
Response to Reply #46
115. It's like bacon fat bleeding out of a suet sack.
He's an altogether remarkable kinda Fat Bastert.

An enormous ass in a class all its own.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:39 PM
Response to Reply #115
117. That's what I'm sayin'!
Here's to the republicONS taking personal responsiblity for their Extraordinary Greed.

:toast:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:51 PM
Response to Reply #117
124. Didn't you mean ...
RepubliCONS??? :toast:

Fat pigs mimic obese humans :rofl:
http://www.vetscite.org/publish/items/001417/

:P
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 09:02 PM
Response to Reply #124
133. Oooops! republiCONS
:toast: republiCONS
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 11:00 PM
Response to Reply #133
138. Hey, let's drink a toast to my fat ass.
Only twenty more pounds to go!:toast:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 06:25 PM
Response to Reply #138
151. You can do it!
:toast:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #151
153. Thanks for the vote of confidence.
:hi: It's not as easy as it used to be.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:15 PM
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12. I agree
I'm not fat either, but it is getting old. I am black and I cannot imagine someone being able to use race as a descriptive negative and it not be seen as wrong, wrong, wrong.
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Red Right and BLUE Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:16 PM
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16. All people are different.
Edited on Thu Oct-05-06 01:19 PM by Red Right and BLUE
He just happens to wear his size really, REALLY badly. Another person whose looks just HURT to witness is Kindasleazy Rice, who is hideous. One can't help but notice.

I hardly think your "examples" were necessary.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:18 PM
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18. The DU corrollary to IOKIYAR is:
It's ok to use any hateful slur as long as you're saying it about a republican. It's sad.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:44 PM
Response to Reply #18
50. You mean that's NOT true?
Damn!

Bake
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:18 PM
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19. Some Feak Republic posters were calling Hastert "fat"
Edited on Thu Oct-05-06 01:19 PM by npincus
we are, of course, better humans.

(BTW- he's really fat)
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eeyore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:39 PM
Response to Reply #19
43. Yeah, he's fat, and so is Michael Moore...
What the hell difference does it make how much he weighs? He's a sick fucking dirtbag, and Michael Moore is a well loved liberal filmmaker. I don't get it.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:20 PM
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20. NEVER!
Fat fat fatty fat!
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:20 PM
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21. That "Fat Bastard" is part of the cacer that is killing my country.
Edited on Thu Oct-05-06 01:24 PM by Botany
He joined in the witch hunt on Clinton.

He has wrapped himself in the Flag, God, the Troops, and the County.

He hid a predatory relationship on young man by Rep. Foley for
sometime for one purpose; political power. And knowing what was
happening this former teacher / coach did not take the matter to law enforcement?

He is part of the mob that has supported an illegal Presidency from
Nov. 2000.

So if I take some cheap shots at his lard ass it is time to look @ the big picture.

BTW He is now going to appointment somebody to investigate why he did not
do his job rather than take responsibility?

And if some overweight people are DUers and I have hurt their feelings I am sorry
about that too.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #21
26. did you say "Fat Batstard"?
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mshasta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #26
81. lol
pure evil...}(
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eeyore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:25 PM
Response to Reply #21
27. You just proved my point....
There are so many other things to hit him on, why go to the fat?

We all really respected the right for going after Michael Moore's weight, didn't we?

But I guess if you feel justified, then that's your own moral code. Personally, I think it's sinking to their level in a pretty sad way.
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:41 PM
Response to Reply #21
47. so if all of that was true but he was black
you'd feel comfortable using negative derogatory racist terminology to express your anger and frustration then?

Seriously. You are comfortable attacking people for their bodies. No explanation can negate that. Be yourself. I don't see the connection between their actions but that's just me I guess.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 04:41 PM
Response to Reply #21
89. "some cheap shots at his lard ass
it is time to look @ the big picture" ...

:rofl:

sorry, no thanks.
dp
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:22 PM
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23. I agree. There is no reason to turn a discussin of Hastert
into a assault on overweight people.
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budkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:23 PM
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25. F that... he's an iconic representation of what the Repigs are
Buncha fat greedy bloated pigs drunk on power.
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eeyore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:26 PM
Response to Reply #25
29. So there are no fat Dems?
There are no fat people reading this board? You have no fat friends?

You must live in a different country than I do my friend!
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Red Right and BLUE Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:26 PM
Response to Reply #25
30. Yep, quintessential Repuke.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:28 PM
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31. Yeah, because "framing" only has to do with language used
Edited on Thu Oct-05-06 01:29 PM by Cerridwen
against Democrats and liberals; it has nothing to do with language in general. /sarcasm

I mean geez, if we're not careful, someone's going to do a "nutty" on us and start calling us PC or something; yeah, like I want to be associated with "progressive orthodoxy" or "supporting broader social, political, and educational change".

How many sarcasm smilies should I put up?


:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1)

politically correct 
marked by or adhering to a typically progressive orthodoxy on issues involving esp. race, gender, sexual affinity, or ecology. Abbreviation: PC, P.C.

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American Heritage Dictionary
politically correct

1. Of, relating to, or supporting broad social, political, and educational change, especially to redress historical injustices in matters such as race, class, gender, and sexual orientation.
2. Being or perceived as being overconcerned with such change, often to the exclusion of other matters. (poster's note: especially by those who refuse to deal with their own prejudices)

edit: formatting

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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:28 PM
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32. Don't forget the camera adds 10 pounds. n/t
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:29 PM
Response to Reply #32
33. ROFL!!!!!!
"Denny, you're a heckuva blob"
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:44 PM
Response to Reply #32
51. So just how many cameras are pointed at him?
(Joke from "Friends")
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Red Right and BLUE Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 02:34 PM
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73. !
:spray:
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:29 PM
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34. Thank you, eeyore
>No, I'm not a fat guy, but I'm sure seeing a hell of a lot of fatophobes around here lately.<

After all, there's no such thing as prejudice against the fat, is there? :sarcasm: This has been brought up so many times before; we'll get the same people insisting that there is "no prejudice," then we'll get the bunch who insist that they're only scapegoating on the basis of "good health".

Again, thank you.
Julie
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eeyore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:34 PM
Response to Reply #34
39. No thanks needed, Julie....
Remember how disgusted people here were when the Pukes were harping on Michael Moore's weight? That was the best thing they had on him. I specifically recall Ann Coulter and Laura Ingraham talking about how disgusting he is. Now my favorite board resembles a conversation between those two harpies!

It's more than unsettling the hypocrisy that's coming to the fore right now.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:40 PM
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45. Oh, but that's different
Edited on Thu Oct-05-06 01:40 PM by JulieRB
It must be nice to feel so morally superior to those of us who aren't physically perfect. :sarcasm:

>Now my favorite board resembles a conversation between those two harpies!<

I'm wondering how many of the "ignore thread" boxes I can click before I hit the limit.

Julie


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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:30 PM
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35. Yeah, I'm tired of them too.
And I participated in it. Sorry.
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timber84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:31 PM
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36. Ok he's obese!
:hi:
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:33 PM
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37. How about "pleasantly plump"? nt
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 02:53 PM
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79. ...more of him to loathe.
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timber84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:37 PM
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41. I guess this is totally out of the question:


Sorry I couldn't resist!
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:38 PM
Response to Reply #41
42. Hey, that's a good picture
of Tony Blankley. Did you get that from his bio at the Washington Times?
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timber84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:40 PM
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44. LOL
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:42 PM
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48. I've been fat and I've been thin,
But Hastert is one hell of a fat fuck. A fat-headed, fat-cat, fat-assed fuck.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:43 PM
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49. No jokes here
He is a fat piece of shit. I am NOT joking when I say that.
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eeyore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:50 PM
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56. Why does it matter that he's fat at all?
Would you call somone a black piece of shit? A faggy piece of shit? A crippled piece of shit?

His appearance holds no bearing here, it's just an easy and cheap insult that has the direct effect of making people here with weight issues feel bad about themselves.

But hell, if it makes you feel better about yourself, then I guess that's cool.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 03:16 PM
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84. LOL
I might, if that is what they are. ;-) I am not shy about using offensive terms to describe offensive people.

I am overweight myself, so I don't slam Hastert to feel better about myself. I do it because he is a fat asshat.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:56 PM
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102. There is a big difference
Edited on Thu Oct-05-06 06:56 PM by RGBolen

Someone's weight is something they control, everyone who has control of their bodies makes their own decisions that cause their physical condition. Yes I know accidents and other medical conditions can cause people to not be able to exercise.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:47 PM
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52. Sorry eeyore. I'm fat, he's corpulent
And a candidate for several heart attacks

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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:47 PM
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53. Let's see ... where to begin
Max didn't choose to lose limbs serving his country. The size of Obama's lips is determined, I'm pretty sure, by genetics. But Ol' Fat Bastert can certainly control how much food he stuffs in his piehole, and/or how much exercise he gets.

So fuck him. (Plus, I gotta give it up for whoever came up with "Fat Bastert", that's a keeper!).

Bake
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 02:00 PM
Response to Reply #53
61. And, gosh, there's never been anyone whose size is determined by genetics
has there?

>The size of Obama's lips is determined, I'm pretty sure, by genetics. But Ol' Fat Bastert can certainly control how much food he stuffs in his piehole, and/or how much exercise he gets.<

There's a woman further up this thread who is a bodybuilder and just had gastric bypass surgery. I have a physical condition which causes unexplained weight gain. I can lose weight, but I'm never going to be thin. Of course, this has nothing to do with genetics, either.

Of course, it feels better to taunt and make fun, doesn't it?

Julie
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 02:32 PM
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72. It DOES feel better, yes, in the case of Hastert.
Those genetic cases are few and far between (just an uneducated guess on my part). Personally, I had to have my thyroid nuked some years ago as a result of Graves' Disease, so I have to fight the fat battle too. I do it by watching what I eat, taking a thyroid supplement, and getting exercise. I've lost 45 pounds in the past year and a half, and at 51 years of age and 6'1", I'm happy if I can keep my weight under the Deuce.

Not every overweight person has a medical reason for it. There's an epidemic of overweight people in this country.

Bake
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 11:59 PM
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141. Hey, Julie. It's a battle against DU bigots...and it goes on and on.
This thread, like every other thread about fat, has brought out the very worst aspect of DU.

On this topic, there is no difference between DU and FreeRepublic.

There will always be bigots...and here at DU, it is no different.

Ignorance and bigotry....unfortunately DU is not immune.

I'm with you.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 03:36 PM
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160. Stephanie Miller always makes fun of Hastert's eating habits
They do a lot of knockwurst and other sausage products jokes. It's kind of a jab at his home state. They often also play polka music in the background. So it's an ethnic thing too. Jim Ward does a dead-on Hastert accent, which I must say is really funny (Goddess help me!). Of course, who knows what the guy really eats or what his situation is. I do find it a little painful to watch him sometimes because he doesn't look well. It's not just the weight. He looks terrible and I always wonder what his blood pressure is (I have high bp and am trying to lose weight).

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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:48 PM
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54. just looking at him clogs my arteries
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Superman Returns Donating Member (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:48 PM
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55. Hastert=fat
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 02:14 AM
Response to Reply #55
145. When HASTERT says " I can't find the meat in a Subway sandwich"
It's because he scarfed it out of the bread on his way from counter to table.

In the early days of his career, when someone asked "where's the beef?"...he always knew.

Actually, Foley always knew where it was too. Well, veal anyways.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:50 PM
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57. Does that mean I can't call him "Denny the Hut"?
nt
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timber84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 02:41 PM
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76. please see post # 41
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LunaSea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:50 PM
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58. Well he DID say he was the "insulation of the nation" the other day
So can I refer to his high R factor?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 02:04 PM
Response to Reply #58
64. ...
:rofl:

Oh please don't take away humor like that! Please!

The minute that that fat Michael Moore or anyone else hides a sex scandal involving underage folks, we'll pile on the fat jokes...ln the meantime the rest of us fat-to-obese ones are safe.

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BornagainDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:52 PM
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59. I agree with that.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 02:01 PM
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62. Gee, let's compare and contrast, shall we?
Read this DU thread through then come read the posts below about Michael Moore:
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Let's see, oh yes, someone here even used the same picture from there:


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Oops, looks like someone's read this thread or its likes before:

To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Moore better be careful what he wishes for, the leftists have no more room for the obese than they do smokers or the elderly. He'd go to the last of the ration line when it comes to health care services.

10 posted on 09/09/2006 1:53:18 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Well, "Sicko" or "Slacko" could be about his own personal life. "Sicko" could be referring to his own mind. "Slacko" because he is a lazy ass fat slob.

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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
Michael Moore Unveils New Film, 'Sicko'

Michael Moore's next film will be autobiographical: 'Thicko'

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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
Fatso unleashes Sicko!

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To: SMM48
"Slacko" because he is a lazy ass fat slob.

..but a very rich lazy ass fat slob.
29 posted on 09/09/2006 2:20:09 PM PDT by detroitdarien

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To: darkangel82

No, That would be " Sloppy fat as a pig Sicko"

52 posted on 09/09/2006 8:41:46 PM PDT by chiefqc

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Ah well, that's just one thread...we are in such good company, aren't we? /sarcasm

You know where those posts came from




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eeyore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 02:04 PM
Response to Reply #62
63. Thanks for the help in making my point!
I'm too skeeved out by that joint to go searching over there. Thanks for taking one for the team!
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 02:06 PM
Response to Reply #63
65. LOL, you bet...I went, so you don't have to.
That place bugs the crap out of me and makes me want to puke.

The only thing worse, is seeing the same damned thing! over here.

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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 02:12 PM
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66. THANK YOU! I've always found that reprehensible
And those of us who hate it should call people on it whenever we see it. I'm guilty of not doing that, but I'm going to now.

What is the matter with people that think it's appropriate to use appearance labels for people in a derogatory way? None of us would DREAM of describing Foley as that "faggot bastard" or Condi Rice as that "black bitch" because we KNOW how hurtful that is to gays and African Americans and how outraged people would be if we did.

So, WHY is "fat bastard" or "scrawny bitch" or "ugly bitch" any more appropriate when we know there are overweight, unattractive and overly thin people RIGHT HERE that will be hurt by that? It's juvenile, disgraceful and is a total embarrassment to us all.

How can we possibly call ourselves tolerant when we do this? How can we possibly call ourselves non-hypocritical when we freely throw out these horrible UNIVERSALLY INSULTING terms when we would be outraged by anyone trying to insult someone by calling them a "black bitch" or a "faggot bastard"? There is NO DIFFERENCE, and it's absolutely hypocritical... something we slam the Repubs for constantly.

And then to have people try to actually DEFEND it is reprehensible in the extreme. Just go ahead and call Foley a "faggot bastard" or Condi Rice a "black bitch" and see if you don't get a much deserved shit-storm of outrage brought down on you. Then try to DEFEND it by whining that we're all just being too "PC"... JUST TRY IT! You'd be labeled a stealth Freeper troll and banned... and you'd DESERVE IT! There's NO DIFFERENCE with the other appearance terms, and you absolutely know it!

I'm disgusted that DU even allows this kind of absolutely SHAMEFUL SHIT.

SHAME ON YOU PEOPLE!

SHAME!

:mad:

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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 02:25 PM
Response to Reply #66
68. Thank you
Reading this thread has made me even more fearful that people will never get it but you put it perfectly. Incidentally the mods are excellent at removing hateful posts directed at fat people so the alert button is your friend. I bet they are working overtime here lately.

Personally I don't even understand what people are actually saying when they call someone fat. I am overweight. So many people I have loved have been. I don't get the definition of the insult. It's an observation of a visual but what are they saying that isn't in an observation of his hair color? Sure feels like hate though.
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 03:57 PM
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88. It IS hate, and directed AWAY from the person they're insulting
Calling Hastert a "fat bastard" is MEANT to be insulting towards HIM, but all it does is insult overweight people generally. And that's why it's so wrong. There are plenty of appropriate terms that actually ARE insulting but also actually insult HIM because he's EARNED them. We should be automatically calling him an "evil bastard" or "corrupt bastard" or lying bastard" because not only is it insulting towards HIM it CALLS HIM OUT for what he has EARNED HIMSELF!

The simple fact that for some people the first insult that comes to their mind is "fat" reveals their own prejudices as much as they'd like to deny that. Anyone that thinks calling someone fat as an insult and thinks it's an appropriate insult has a deep rooted dislike of the overweight. We can recognize that someone who calls a gay man a "faggot bastard" has a deep rooted dislike of gays... same damn thing with African Americans, overweight people and all the others. Good luck getting them to ever admit it even to themselves, though. We went through the same thing with the "N" word where people honestly believed that it wasn't an insulting and derogatory thing to say that was directed at ALL African Americans.

And the fact that it even needs to be explained at of all places DU makes me cringe.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:15 PM
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:39 PM
Response to Reply #88
98. I'm not insulted at all!
Give it a rest! He's a lying, criminal FAT PIG!!

FBI Investigating Hastert Bribery in Abramoff Scandal
http://veredictum.com/node/216

ABC's Brian Ross reports that Republican Speaker of the House, Dennis Hastert,
is entangled in the Abramoff scandal. Federal law enforcement sources have
confirmed that Hastert is being looked at for granting favors to Abramoff
clients in exchange for bribes.

For his part, Hastert is denying the charges.



-----------------------------------------

The Pictures of Corruption: How Hastert Used Tax Dollars to Turn a $1.5 Million Profit
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/15/hastert-pictures-of-corruption/

Here’s a graphic timeline explaining how House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-IL)
used a federal earmark to turn a $1.5 million profit:

August 2005: Hastert secures $207 million in federal dollars to build the “Prairie Parkway”
through his district. The Chicago Tribune describes it as a “pet project” of Hastert’s that
will “cut through valuable farmland and increase suburban sprawl.” President Bush comes to
IL-14 to sign the bill.

Here’s an overlay of Hastert’s property and the new highway, shown in green.

The highway is just 5.5 miles away:


:evilfrown: :grr:





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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:47 PM
Response to Reply #98
120. I'm DONE turning a blind eye!
Don't like it? TOUGH. People should have been called on the carpet about this obnoxious juvenile filth years ago, and I'll not put up with it any more!

Hastert is and evil corrupt lying piece of rat shit Nazi brownshirt goose-stepping pile of putrid maggot infested puss filled scum who should be rotting for the remainder of his pathetic criminal life in the foulest lice mice flea and blood-sucking insect riddled piss leaking dungeon, and all you can do is insult overweight people everywhere by trying to insult him with the term "fat".

As I just demonstrated, it is far easier and actually appropriate to call him out with insults he's EARNED that don't cause harm to an entire innocent large group of perfectly decent people.

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 08:31 PM
Response to Reply #120
132. What's the difference between Dennis Hastert and the symbol of the
Republican Party?

Answer: twenty pounds, give or take.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 02:34 PM
Original message
Don't forget Ted Kennedy
I am so sick of seeing Republican jokes about his size, too.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:20 PM
Response to Reply #66
110. Brava! Fantastic Rant!
Well done!

:applause:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:55 PM
Response to Reply #66
136. There is a difference in Hastert's case, and many of us know it.
The comparisons you've made are inflated, even insulting in themselves. but I won't take the time to once again repeat why, only to have the PC squad get rid of a post they don't want to hear based on a technicality.

That has in the past, and always will be the modus operandi of the pc squad. Upthread there is even an example of a dictionary entry being amended to suit the needs of the uber-world view we are all required to submit to.

An hour was already plenty of time to spend on it.

Politeness is one thing, sensitivity is another. This stuff? This game? it's about something altogether different.

There's the alert button...go to, team. Good night.

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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 02:26 PM
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69. I suppose you're against page jokes too
Edited on Thu Oct-05-06 02:26 PM by Generator
My husband told me a great one but I disgress. "Fat fuck" as never so nicely applied to anyone as Hastert. And he is a man. I thought penis size was the real denigrating comment. Small package Hastert..

The world is frigging coming apart and the Left is as always worried about what the end of the world is called, not how to stop it. Sorry but I will never in five billion years ever be that p.c. unfunny feminist that you want me to be. And I am a feminist. And if you want call me a bitch or fat chick, who gives a shit-I care more about my individual liberties being taken away. I've noticed this administration is very good at naming things like "culture of life" "clean skies"-see they sound nice but they are lies.

But this guy is a fat fuck. He's fat on greed, on power, on arrogance. Fat is a very good description of this son of bitch. See I'm angry. They are ruining my country. I don't give a fuck what you call them..and maybe calling them the dirty names they deserve is all I have to get through the day.
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timber84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 02:31 PM
Response to Reply #69
71. Well done!
We will never get anywhere if people have to waste time on being p.c.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 02:44 PM
Response to Reply #69
77. I think Hastert's worked so hard to cover-up the scandal because
he's eaten a few pages.

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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 02:28 PM
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70. I'll keep calling him Fat, thank you.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 02:34 PM
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74. Thank you for this
I am really disgusted at those who think these fat comments are OK.

The cover -up has nothing to do with Hastert's size.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 12:41 AM
Response to Reply #74
144. Speaking of Hastert's enormous covers,
Did ya hear the one about the porcupine and the rocket launcher?

I wonder if Denny's one of those eaters who does it to suppress guilt? He's gained a lot in the past year.

For myself, stress is what I've got to be careful of. Letting that runaway train speed on ahead of me got me 40 pounds. Eep!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 02:35 PM
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 02:47 PM
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78. I've never seen Hastert in person, so I will cut him some slack...
They say the camera adds 10 pounds.

:spank: Oops, will that be considered a joke?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 03:07 PM
Response to Reply #78
83. Don't spank yourself online.
Look where it got Foley.

And "Hamburglar Hastert", the Hamlet all his own.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 02:55 PM
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80. Oh, poo. I wanted to nominate him for "The Biggest Loser"!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 11:25 PM
Response to Reply #80
139. Scientific studies have proven that
even Hastert's FARTS are fat! Microscopic evidence abounds.

But it makes sense, because the brain needs fat to function properly.

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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 03:06 PM
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82. I can't even mention that
he's been at the trough of corruption waaaaaay tooooo loooooong?

oink oink? Denny....step away from the trough. You are about to explode from eating too many $$$$$$$ bills!
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 03:24 PM
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85. So when we make fun of Bush...
...are we being insensitive to the mentally retarded?
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 03:28 PM
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86. He's not fat. There's just more of him to love and admire. For
example, he loyally defends people he works with, even if they're twisted garbage. So if he prefers to eat three cheeseburgers a day instead of three a week, who are we to point fingers? :rofl:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 12:14 AM
Response to Reply #86
142. When Leader Hastert brings the House to order,
it's usually for a 16 inch meat-lovers pizza.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 05:49 PM
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90. Flush that Fat Hastert !!
Edited on Thu Oct-05-06 06:03 PM by Breeze54
:wtf: :nopity:

Okay, enough with the Hastert FAT jokes!
Posted by eeyore

What the hell is going on here? I think we have enough on the guy that
we don't need to be constantly harping on his weight. Yes, the dude is fat.
I think that's pretty apparent at first glance. Get the hell over it.

Let's just step over to the other side and see what you think, okay?

How you would react to people in Freeperville harping on the following?

That Max Cleland shure is a crippled son of a bitch!
Boy, that Barney Frank.....what a fucking faggot!
Man, did you see the size of Barack Obama's lips?
I bet he really likes fried chicken too!

I bet we'd all have a lot of respect for those comments, eh?


Geez...the piling on mentality of people can get really fucking sick!
Go ahead and kick the bastard into the ground, he's total scum.
But I really think this Junior High metality of rippiing on his
weight is really disgusting.

No, I'm not a fat guy, but I'm sure seeing a hell of a lot of fatophobes
around here lately.


Republicans Insult All Purple Heart Recipients
http://www.democrats.com/node/7430



Republicans Insult Wounded Veterans
http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/modules.php?file=article&name=News&op=modload&sid=865

"This outrageous behavior on the floor of the Republican convention brings up some
interesting questions. When did it become acceptable in America for our Purple Hearts
to be used as political stunt to garner votes? When did veterans wounded in war become
fair game for ridicule? When did slight wounds become props for political advantage?
And this from Republicans (few of whom served in our military and fewer who were wounded
in war) who support a president who never went to a war that he strongly supported.
This reeks of hypocrisy, and I am outraged."

-----------------------------------

Republican Smear Ad Misrepresents Cleland
http://thereitis.org/displayarticle156.html

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Bitches and fags, oh my - comments made about Barney Frank and Hillary Clinton
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1295/is_n3_v59/ai_16839640

"At first it was easy to believe Dick Armey when he said he had
merely "stumbled" in referring to Barney Frank as "Barney Fag."


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The most negative campaign ever
http://www.studioglyphic.com/mt/archives/2004/05/

Scholars and political strategists say the ferocious Bush assault on Kerry
this spring has been extraordinary, both for the volume of attacks and for
the liberties the president and his campaign have taken with the facts.
Though stretching the truth is hardly new in a political campaign, they say
the volume of negative charges is unprecedented -- both in speeches and in advertising.

Three-quarters of the ads aired by Bush's campaign have been attacks on Kerry.
Bush so far has aired 49,050 negative ads in the top 100 markets, or 75 percent
of his advertising. Kerry has run 13,336 negative ads -- or 27 percent of his total.
The figures were compiled by The Washington Post using data from the Campaign Media
Analysis Group of the top 100 U.S. markets. Both campaigns said the figures are accurate.



Newsbrief:
House Speaker Dennis Hastert Defames Drug Reform Funder Soros,
New Jersey DA Joins Smear Campaign
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle-old/352/soros.shtml

In another sign of the growing nastiness of this year's presidential race, Republican House Speaker Dennis Hastert Sunday defamed drug reform funder George Soros on national television, wondering aloud whether the Hungarian-born billionaire financier was getting money from drug cartels and passing it on to political opponents of President George Bush. The GOP is unhappy with Soros, not because he funded some drug reform efforts, but because he has contributed millions of dollars to groups trying to defeat Bush in November. Still, that didn't stop Hastert from using Soros' interest in drug reform to try to smear him as a criminal.

Hastert's remarks came in an interview Sunday on Fox News with anchor Chris Wallace. In a discussion of 527s and other unregulated political groups active in the campaign, to some of which Soros has contributed, Hastert said, "You know, I don't know where George Soros gets his money. I don't know where -- if it comes overseas or from drug groups or where it comes from."

An astonished Chris Wallace asked: "Excuse me?" Hastert continued: "Well, that's what he's been for a number of years -- George Soros has been for legalizing drugs in this country. So, I mean, he's got a lot of ancillary interests out there."

Wallace then asked, "You think he may be getting money from the drug cartels?" To which Hastert replied, "I'm saying I don't know where groups -- could be people who support this type of thing. I'm saying we don't know."


Marc Sandalow: Hastert Blames Media, Soros, Clinton
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=9525

House Speaker Dennis Hastert, fighting for his political survival,
is lashing out at the news media, George Soros and even associates
of former President Clinton.

---------------------

Hastert blames Democrats for widening scandal surrounding Foley
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/15681144.htm

In an interview with the Chicago Tribune on Wednesday night, Hastert said
that he had no thoughts of resigning and he blamed ABC News and Democratic
operatives for the mushrooming scandal that threatens his tenure as speaker
and Republicans' hold on power in the House.

"No. Look, I've talked to our members," Hastert said. "Our members are supportive.
I think that (resignation) is exactly what our opponents would like to have happen -
that I'd fold my tent and others would fold our tent and they would sweep the House."

When asked about a groundswell of discontent among the GOP's conservative base over
his handling of the issue, Hastert said: "I think the base has to realize after awhile,
who knew about it? Who knew what, when? When the base finds out who's feeding this
monster, they're not going to be happy. The people who want to see this thing blow
up are ABC News and a lot of Democratic operatives, people funded by George Soros."

He went on to suggest that operatives aligned with former President Bill Clinton
knew about the allegations and were perhaps behind the disclosures in the closing
weeks before the Nov. 7 midterm elections, but he offered no hard proof.

"All I know is what I hear and what I see," the speaker said.




AND http://www.washingtonmonthly.com.nyud.net:8090/blogphotos/Blog_Hastert_Hydrogen.gif



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:evilgrin: :nopity: Flush that Fat Hastert! :hurts:












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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:24 PM
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93. Nice research, Breeze54! but to be completely accurate,
and a tad more populist, I think you might say "flush that fat HasTURD". Or perhaps you were being subtle. The gently implied scatological comment has a lot to be said for it as well. :D
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:31 PM
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96. So you sink to their level?
Edited on Thu Oct-05-06 06:31 PM by Beaverhausen
Sorry, but most of us are above that. Those that aren't are really showing their ugly colors here today.

He is a lying sack of shit. Who cares what he weighs?
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eeyore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:31 PM
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97. Thank you for making my point for me....
There's a huge list of epithets that I could roll off and be tombstoned. All of those epithets are used as insults by the right, be they racial, sexist, or homophobic, and the like. All of them have been deemed deal breakers here at DU...use them and get tombstoned.

Somehow, though, it's okay for us to insult a person's weight for politcal gain. How very liberal.

Sorry, I think your attitude sucks. I don't belong to the Republican party, and I detest the tactics that you brought up. I'm not interested in coopting their tactics or hate speech for political game.

I don't belong to their party because I violently disagree with their lack of value system. I will not become them in order to win.

The ends do not always justify the means.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:42 PM
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99. "...it's okay for us to insult a person's weight for political gain. "
No, just Denny the Supersonic, Butter-fat and Corporate-Cash Powered Fatass.

That's the extent of the dignity he gets after all the "hard work" he did to rise up to the esteemed position of Speaker of the House. :rofl:

Like I say, everything's not about everything else, and many of the fat among us have learned that "not everything's about us."



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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:48 PM
Response to Reply #97
100. Expand your mind....
Edited on Thu Oct-05-06 06:54 PM by Breeze54
http://www.answers.com/topic/pig

pig (pĭg) pronunciation
n. 1.

1. Any of several mammals of the family Suidae, having short legs, cloven hooves,
bristly hair, and a cartilaginous snout used for digging, especially the domesticated hog,
Sus scrofa domesticus, when young or of comparatively small size.

2. Informal. A person regarded as being piglike, greedy, or gross.

5. Slang. A member of the social or political establishment,
especially one holding sexist or racist views.

pig it Slang.

1. To live in a piglike fashion.

pig
n.
Pigs are regarded as highly intelligent. Domestic pigs are classified as lard
(thick fat, carcass weighing at least 220 lbs, or 100 kg),
bacon (carcass about 150 lbs, or 70 kg), and pork (carcass about 100 lbs, or 45 kg) pigs,
depending on the principal product derived from them; they are also a source of leather.
Today they are usually bred in almost complete confinement. See also boar, hog.

An animal (Porcus omnivorus) closely allied to the human race by the splendor and vivacity
of its appetite, which, however, is inferior in scope, for it sticks at pig.

The noun pig has 6 meanings:

Meaning #1: domestic swine
Synonyms: hog, grunter, squealer, Sus scrofa

Meaning #2: a coarse obnoxious person
Synonyms: slob, sloven, slovenly person

Meaning #3: a person regarded as greedy and pig-like
Synonym: hog

The English language abounds with unflattering references and idioms involving pigs.

:redbox: Pigs are commonly associated with greed ("as greedy as a pig")
and obesity, gluttony ("to pig out"). :redbox:

"Male chauvinist pig" was a derogatory term adopted by the women's liberation movement
in the 1960s to describe men who seem to believe that males are superior to females.

==============

Hence? He's a FAT PIG!!!


:popcorn:

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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 05:53 PM
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91. Really! We're better than that....And it's not like the guy is Henry Hyde.
That fucker is FAT.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:33 PM
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:03 PM
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105. Did Hastert suffer an accident or have a medial condition that prevents

him from exercising? Or does someone force feed him fatting food? If not then his weight is of his own doing.


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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:17 PM
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:19 PM
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109. I have no bigotry toward anyone

I simply stated that someone's weight is something they control themselves.
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eeyore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:27 PM
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112. The language one uses can also be controlled and used more thoughtfully...
Perhaps you have no bigotry, but your insistence that throwing around weight-based insults for political gain is just fine and dandy, well that makes me question how honest you are being with yourself.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:28 PM
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113. I have made no jokes about anyone's weight

what are you talking about? Did you just make that up?
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eeyore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:41 PM
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118. Actually, you're right, you didn't make any jokes.
"Did Hastert suffer an accident or have a medial condition that prevents him from exercising? Or does someone force feed him fatting food? If not then his weight is of his own doing."

There's nothing in your statement that attempts to make a joke. What you said is just stating that because he weighs more than others, and that he may, in your opinion, have control over it, that his weight is fair game for ridicule.

I simply believe that we have plenty of other issues that we can hammer him on without going to his weight. There are people right here in this thread that confirm that it is hurtful to them, but it seems that you and others really don't care about that. It's more fun to make fun of Hastert's weight. Personally, I think it's intellectually lazy and just plain insensetive to people here.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:49 PM
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122. You think people do not have control over their health?

Anyone who is overweight is doomed to remain that way?


OK if so, then I apologize to you for bringing up personal responsibility and discipline.
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eeyore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:52 PM
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125. What does it matter whether people can control their weight?
Would you walk up to Michael Moore and say "Hey you fat fuck, I love your films!"?

It's offensive, and you know it.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:58 PM
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129. You compared something most people are able to control

to peoples ethnicity, ability to walk, and sexual activities. That is to me much more insulting. By your logic with the little Mike Moore thing, saying to someone "oh you have hypertension, well there is nothing you can do about that it's just like being Asian," would be fine with you?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:41 PM
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eeyore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:57 PM
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127. I don't really want anyone to grow up, Beaverhausen...
I'm just as juvenile as the next guy. I just would prefer people stop being assholes, that's all.

:)
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eeyore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 08:01 PM
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130. Nice try!
n/t
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:39 PM
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116. What difference does it make?
Edited on Thu Oct-05-06 07:42 PM by Beaverhausen
He covered-up the actions of a pedophile in congress. That has nothing to do with his weight.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:50 PM
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123. my only point is his weight is of his own doing
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #116
128. For him? About 125 lbs!!
:rofl: Besides? He's a FAT, greedy, PIG!
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 12:25 AM
Response to Reply #105
143. What about AIDS jokes? Cancer jokes? "Crippled" jokes?
That doesn't make any of them right, even if it was a result of his own behavior. I fail to see why someone different than the norm should be the butt of jokes, whether it was a choice to be different than the norm or something more genetic.

Of course, I'm an asshole, and I'll laugh at any joke that's funny -- even (especially?) the ones that insult me personally, but that's a whole other matter. But I don't go out of my way to offend people, either.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:13 PM
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106. From those of us at DU who *are* fat, thank you.
Sometimes it feels like we're all alone asking to keep the "fat" out of the insults around here.

:hug:
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:14 PM
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107. I am fat...and Hastert is a fat bastard.
Why deny the truth? :shrug:
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:22 PM
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111. Denny, this is for you:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 09:15 PM
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135. And "Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot."
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 10:04 AM
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147. "Dietarily Challenged"? "Gravitationally Disabled"? "The Unthin"?
just what ARE the correct labels for those on the higher end of the scales?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 10:04 AM
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148. OK, then he's SENILE
How's that?
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 06:02 PM
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150. He's not a fat pig
he's just a pig though I hate to insult pigs with the comparison to the turd.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:00 PM
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154. Can we joke about other species?
Edited on Sat Oct-07-06 01:02 PM by WinkyDink
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 04:09 PM
Response to Reply #154
162. You can and may, but be prepared for the batty animal rights lemmings
to maul you like bear on honey-dipped salmon.
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:35 PM
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156. He's so fat, the last breast he felt was in a bucket of KFC
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 02:18 PM
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158. ..
:rofl:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 03:03 PM
Response to Reply #156
159. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
He does Chicken right!!!

:rofl:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 03:58 PM
Response to Reply #159
161. LOL!
Great.:rofl:

A nice replacement for something "missing" in this thread. :rofl:
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