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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 06:07 AM
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Abt Lieberman: Party Identification is MORE IMPORTANT than party loyalty.
Edited on Fri Oct-06-06 06:18 AM by Perky
Caucusing with the Dems on control of the Senate. I will take any vote I can get there. any time and day.

I don't care if if Joe McCarthy, Joe Stalin or Joe Lieberman runs as as independent or votes with the Repukes half the time.....If they are caucusing with the Dems and that tips the balance of power in the Senate... I will welcome them into the fold with open arms.



Yeah.....It is that important in order to control the idiot in the White House
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 06:27 AM
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1. Reasons to oppose Lieberman beyond the fact that he lost the primary...
Edited on Fri Oct-06-06 06:30 AM by cornermouse
http://hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/100306/news3.html

...Lieberman said he would keep his senior position in the caucus, even though he lost Connecticut’s Democratic primary, and is running against Democratic nominee Ned Lamont, whom the Senate Democratic leadership has endorsed.

“That’s what I’ve been told,” said Lieberman in an interview Friday, before Congress recessed for the election. “Caucuses like to keep as many members as they can, not discourage membership,” implying that leaders risk his defection to the GOP if they strip him of seniority...

...That could create big problems with Democrats in Congress and around the country if their party takes over the Senate. The governmental affairs panel is primarily responsible for oversight and investigations of the executive branch.

If Democrats take over either the Senate or the House, it is expected they will pour much time and effort into investigating the Bush administration. And many Democrats think Lieberman, who lost the primary race because of his perceived closeness to the Bush administration, is not the right person for that job.


and

http://nymag.com/daily/politics/2006/10/_mayor_bloomberg_just_produced.html

The well-funded Lieberman is increasingly drawing support from Republicans, sparking criticism from the left that he's a little more than a cheerful lapdog for Bush-Cheney. On Tuesday, he worked the sidewalks of Fairfield, Connecticut, with former mayor Ed Koch, who while not technically a Republican hasn't been recognizable as a Democrat for about a quarter century. Last Thursday in Washington, Tom Kuhn, president of the Edison Electric Institute and President Bush's college roommate, co-sponsored a Lieberman fund-raising luncheon. Now there is speculation that Lieberman may caucus with the Republicans if he wins reelection.

and

http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-senate1005.artoct05,0,5467271.story?page=2

Although Lieberman strongly denounced Foley's behavior - the former congressman sent overtly sexual messages to a teenage boy who worked as a page for the House of Representatives - Lieberman stopped short of calling for the resignation of Republican leaders who failed to investigate Foley after learning of a different set of e-mails to another page.

Instead, Lieberman again reverted to his partisanship theme.

"I know some people are calling for Hastert to resign, but the truth is that unless he knows what he saw and he saw something he should have acted on, he deserves to have essentially a fact-finder to come in," Lieberman said.

"The Foley case bothers people," he added. "If anyone thinks they can make this into another partisan flap, it's not. It's very real and human. The House Republican leaders and, frankly, the Democratic leadership, should not make it partisan."
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CarbonDate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 06:31 AM
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3. Oh, he can kiss my ass.
He thinks this is business as usual. He's just another neo-con tool and everybody knows it. Why anybody is saying anything else is beyond me.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 08:24 AM
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6. Oppose him all you want...but
who do you want as Senate Majority Leader Harry Reied or Mitch McConnell?
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 10:54 AM
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7. If we can't take enough votes to take it without needing Lieberman
it will be Mitch McConnell.

Disbelieve me all you want, but if he wins Lieberman will announce that he is switching party affiliation to become a republican. That's the point you keep avoiding.
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CarbonDate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 06:28 AM
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2. If he wants to caucus with the Dems....
...in the event that he wins, then that's fine. I just don't necessarily trust that he will. And even if he does, he'll constantly use that as leverage against the Dems: "do things my way, or I'll caucus with the Repubs." I'd rather Lamont win.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 06:56 AM
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4. McCarthy or Stalin I wouldn't sit still for. Lieberman isn't that bad
Lieberman is a pest. But on things that matter, he's with us more than he's against us. He's not a McCarthy and he sure isn't a Stalin. I agree that there seem to be people in DU who'd rather lose the Senate than gain the Senate with him. But as long as we're keeping perspective here, DU debates aren't all that important either.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 07:27 AM
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5. Sacrilege Alert Sacrilege Alert
What do you mean what we say here on DU is not all that important. You must be a tinfoiling, diebolding, fundy neo-con to say somethjing like tha!!!!!!!!

:sarcasm:
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