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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:25 AM
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"How Easy It Would Be For President To Use Law To Make Enemies Disappear"
Oct. 9, 2006, 5:03PM
Bankruptcy Judge Denounces U.S. Policy


By LAURA MCGANN Dow Jones Newswires
© 2006 The Associated Press

WASHINGTON — A judge who usually constrains his opinions to the technicalities of bankruptcy law broke from habit last week and denounced U.S. policy on the detention of "enemy combatants" as "the tactics of the old Soviet Union."

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"The very idea of holding anyone without trial, without the right to see the evidence that was used to justify naming them an enemy combatant, and depriving them of the ability to challenge why they're even there, is so repugnant to a constitutional democracy that I'm shocked this man actually claims to be defending American values," Clark said in the e-mail.

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"How easy it would be for a president to use such a law to make his political enemies simply disappear. Can this be America?" Clark said in the e-mail.

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The outburst surprised other judges and could subject Clark to disciplinary action, lawyers said. Clark, a judge in San Antonio, Texas, was unavailable to comment Monday.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/fn/4246728.html
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:27 AM
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1. Disciplinary action?
What would that be?
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:35 AM
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4. Not sure what his punishment will be at present...
...but a few years from now, people who pop off like Judge Clark will be made to "disappear."
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 03:56 PM
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11. Ironic is what it would be...
Or insane...
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:28 AM
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2. The "OUTBURST" will subject him to DISCIPLINARY ACTION???
Hmm...it sounds as if he is exactly right! how terribly ironic!

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 12:00 PM
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7. Lawyers said that
And they may not be completely "partial", if you know what I mean....
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 07:15 PM
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13.  a judge. for voicing an opinion, no less.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:32 AM
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3. Unfortunately, far, far too easy.
Bush and whoever controls the poltical agenda in his administration now have all the tools to invoke totalitarian control. Addiction to power for the sake of power will inevitably lead to this being used on domestic political opponents.

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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 09:08 AM
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5. Voicing a critical opinion is subject to disciplinary action?
*shudder*
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 10:10 AM
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6. I lived in San Antonio for 16 years
It's hard to imagine any judge there actually say something, so, democratic.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 12:04 PM
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8. Soviet tactics? Heck, it's been the main SOP for every totalitarian state
Since the beginning of recorded history... and probably pre-dates written language.

One might even call it the oldest preoccupation.

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 12:04 PM
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9. gitmo him
it might be better than the old standbys, suicides, heartattacks and plane crashes. at least there will be a chance to rescue him
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 03:52 PM
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10. The Houston Chronicle sure did their research on how to try to shut this
Edited on Tue Oct-10-06 03:53 PM by w4rma
judge up. Either that, or the Republican Party did the research and fed it to the Houston Chronicle.

I think the Pukes are going to try to do something (within their interpretation of the "law", of course) to this judge. They are truely fascists.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 05:02 PM
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12. This judge's comments were appropriate FOR UNIQUE TIMES
as a lawyer, I think his comments were dead on. Even Scalia says the following:

"The very core of liberty secured by our Anglo-Saxon system of separated powers has been freedom from indefinite imprisonment at the will of the Executive." Judge Antonin Scalia

This quote is related to the Hamdi case, which Congress basically attempted to overturn in the Military Commissions ACt of 2006. The judge's sworn an oath to uphold the Constitution and is taking it seriously. he is to be praised, IMHO, despite that normally judges might be less opinionated. But in this case it's not purely "opinion" it's black letter law, the "very core of liberty" as even Scalia recognizes.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 07:49 PM
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14. Do you think Scalia would vote to overturn?
It seems like he would, based on his belief in "constructualism" & strict interpretation of the Constitution as written - but then again, he is in deep with the Bush Administration & seems to believe that the little people should bow before his splendiferousness. So it's hard to tell.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 07:42 AM
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15. Well scalia wrote in the Hamdi case that "the very core of liberty"
is freedom from indefinite detention at the will of the Executive. Just shows how radical eliminating habeas corpus is, because that makes indefinite detention at the will of the executive perfectly possible.
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