UP NEXT: Thom Hartmann: HOW he thinks they are going to steal the election

[WA98296]

[Subdivisions]

1. Ummm...up next where?

[WA98296]

3. My AirAmerica affiliate, but I think he streams live (now) from his site

thomhartmann.com

[Elwood P Dowd]

10. Delete

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[tsuki]

2. iTunes. It works. n/t

[tsuki]

4. Diebold can purge voters, at the machines? Did I hear correctly?

[WA98296]

5. This is sounding ominous...more coming

[Bozita]

6. really scary stuff but Ohio may be getting too lopsided to steal

[WA98296]

7. The GOP-owned polls will begin to show a turn toward the repubs...watch.

[WA98296]

8. For those not listenting it's a Diebold voter purging scheme w/Blackwell

[Bozita]

11. Wasn't this scheme mentioned in RFK Jr's "Rolling Stone" article?

[mod mom]

23. Purging voter rolls in high Dem precincts was done in '04 as well.

[Bozita]

22. I recant post #6 after reading Daily Kos

Sorry.

[Vinca]

9. No wonder Shrub and Rove are happy as clams.

The fix is in.

[Elwood P Dowd]

12. What we can do about it coming after the break

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[Justice Is Comin]

13. I'm getting really tired of hearing this shit.

It is going to be more difficult for republicans to "steal" this election with these poll numbers and trend indicators--to say nothing of the scandals, arrests, investigations, and bush bungles--than if they all went into Toyota dealerships in orange prison marked jumpsuits, got into Prius automobiles and tried to drive them through the showroom windows and down the street.

If you can't grasp that reality, no happy dust for you.

We are taking at LEAST the House, big time !!!

[Bozita]

14. Repig driving a Prius -- not exactly a package enhancer like a Hummer

[Justice Is Comin]

15. But prisoners can't be choosey

and they get great mileage making their getaway :rofl:

[Bozita]

16. link to today's Daily Kos -- source of Thom's Ohio voter purge info

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/10/18/85915/109

ACTION ALERT: Blackwell purged Ohio Voter Rolls Oct 1st.- Vote Early.
by KStreetProjector
Wed Oct 18, 2006 at 05:59:14 AM PDT

A friend, in a position to be present at lunches of GOP insiders here in DC called me on Thursday, they know of my ongoing efforts to make hackable voting end.

My friend was present as a group of Moderate GOP members with Ohio ties lamented how far the party had strayed.   There was consensus at the table there was no way they should retain control.   The table conversation began with the assumption they party would lose control in this election. The moderates started planning how to take back control of the GOP from the extremists.

Then, one insider, probably an extremist, but certainly very close to Mr. Ken Mehlman abruptly stopped the conversation.  He told table that it was impossible they would lose either house.    He also predicts an Ohio GOP sweep.

more...

[LaPera]

17. Hartmann is right on track-If you don't listen you won't believe shit!

LISTEN! http://www.radiopower.org/talkradio/

[Justice Is Comin]

19. I am not referring to Ohio in a vacuum.

I am saying there are 40-50 seats that we have to choose from to get 15, and you can bet your car we are going to get them.

If you want to pass up your happy dust, I cannot make you take it.

[LaPera]

20. If you're wrong........

and the republican steal all close races and Diebold has indeed purged millions of Dems from voting rolls in at least four states... these millions of Dems won't be allowed to vote, though they think they are registered...what will you say then?

After the election is too late...republicans will be announced the winner and no way to check the machines either way.

Are you even listening to Hartmann or just going by what you've been reading?

[bananas]

18. one more vote needed for the greatest page. nt

[GreenTea]

21. Hartmann announced it. "The Fix Is In" Why is Bush/Rove so upbeat...

it's not just bullshit, they KNOW...they aren't going to give up their fascist power to liberal voters.

As Hartmann stated...In 2004 when Bush was told he lost to Kerry...Bush smiled and just went to bed, 20 minutes later he was announced the winner.

I personally recall the same thing in 2000, when Bush by all accounts & the exit polls had lost Florida and the election, Bush just laughed and said "we've got Florida"...How did he know?

Look at the obvious outrageous voting machine stealing in Georgia in 2002 (100% Diebold machines).

Of course there is nothing that can be done...the media ignores it...The republicans call us conspiracy nuts & say sour grapes...By then it's over they've stolen it, AGAIN!

Just like Bush and Rove know it this time. The fix is in...

We must still get out and vote in big numbers...We must...if nothing else to scream and stop this from happening again in 2008.

As exposed at least in four key states, (no doubt all with republican Secretary of States) Diebold sofeware has purged millions of Democrats unknowingly from voting. They will go to the polls thinking they are voting, but have been purged, not allow to vote.

And just like in 2000, 2002, 2004, 2005, TOO LATE - No way to challenge the machines...They have spoken.

Maybe NOW we will finally take a step FORWARD and go back to paper ballots...since we've learned how easy electronic voting machines are to hack!!!!

[ellacott]

24. Call and verify that you are registered

check this site: www.canivote.org

Spread the word. Don't take it lying down, fight.

[EFerrari]

25. There's ALL KINDS OF WAYS TO CHALLENGE THE MACHINES.

At both the reg stage (the mandated voter reg databases) and at the polls and after.

NGU.

/oops

[BonnieJW]

26. Don't leave us hanging!

What are the ways????

[EFerrari]

30. We need you in the Elections Forum.

:)

Some of these systems have been illegally certified - they don't meet federal standards. The databases are going to fail bigtime and there will be a bunch of voters who may have recourse.

What about chain of custody? Who had access to the memory cards during "early voting"? How do we know?

These POS have so many problems, we WILL find something that sticks to the wall.

But, we need help. Today, we need people to make calls for Debra Bowen in CA unless we want to lose it. Tomorrow, there will be somethin' else!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=203

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[GreenTea]

27. After the election with republican Sec. of States-Its nearly impossible to

get anything accomplished before the culprits are sworn in, in January.

We've go get rid of the machines and go back to paper ballots...that will help some.

But republican Secretary of states who count & certify the votes, can almost do as they want.

WE have got to get CA Democrat Debra Bowen elected Secretary of State this November...before they steal CA in 2008! http://www.debrabowen.com/

[cui bono]

29. the People could finally take to the streets, camp out in front of

official buildings. We need to learn from the Ukranians. Come on people, we can't wait and see if someone will let us check the votes. The PEOPLE need to DEMAND it!!!

[seabeyond]

28. telling ya... if i can vote or when i vote straight dem ticket, reg perry

our repug gov.... i will stop and call the papers. we shouldallhave mass calls to our media as soon as we run into a problem. inundate them with calls. every single oops.