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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 01:51 PM
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For you, your sister, your mother, and most definitely your daughter:
I encourage everyone here to watch this short video and then pass it along to the women and girls in your lives. The concept of "beauty" is extremely distorted today and this video will show you why:


http://campaignforrealbeauty.com/

and much kudos to Dove for this campaign.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 01:55 PM
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1. Long neck? Big eyes? She's a space alien.
She looked better before all that crap. I'll take any corn-feed farmer's daughter over any fashion model.
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Ellis Wyatt Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:01 PM
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2. Interesting...
that you didn't mention "wife" or "girlfriend".

Hmmmmm? Too good for the fattys?
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:06 PM
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4. please tell me you forgot the sarcasm smilie
I wrote it that way because after I saw the video I was thinking of all the people I wanted to send it to. Since I don't have a wife of my own, it just didn't occur to me.
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kmla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:07 PM
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5. She did mention them. Re-read the post.
What part of "women and girls in your life" would exclude a wife or girlfriend?

:eyes:
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Ellis Wyatt Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:13 PM
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9. Well
I was referring to "specifically" is all. Just found it odd that the first person I though of wasn't explicitly called out.

I'd hope that "sarcasm" tags or smilies aren't necessary for the most part, but I can see how it would be misread.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:15 PM
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10. so, um, any thoughts on the actual video?
:shrug:
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Ellis Wyatt Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:20 PM
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13. interesting...
It's an interesting video. Though I'm less concerned about digital manipulation than of the designers who hire models that actually look like that (or thinner) or make clothes that fit 1% of the population.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:10 PM
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8. so if i am a wife i am a fatty? what an odd post. n/t
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:02 PM
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16. "Hmmmmm? Too good for the fattys?"
:wtf:
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:03 PM
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3. The old makeup and airbrushing were bad enough.
The photoshopping makes it almost criminal, IMO.
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Karmageddon Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:08 PM
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6. Damn, they did all that crap to a beauty and turned her into a freak
I hate that.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:09 PM
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7. all i can say is wow....... that is kick ass. not only are my two nieces
gonna watch this saturday when they come over.... but so are my sons and husband....
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:19 PM
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11. It shows how they take an average looking girl with acne
no less, and turn her into a super model, but that is not even enough, they have to graphically enhance her beauty into an unrealistic image.....

Great film... I will be showing my daughter......
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:19 PM
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12. And how many men are taken by surprise when the 'evolution' is reversed?
Thanks for posting. Hadn't heard about this campaign.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:25 PM
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14. Very powerful video. Thanks.
n/t
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:54 PM
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15. Just kickin' it. eom
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:04 PM
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17. Thanks Gloria ...
It sadly comes as no surprise that western standards of beauty are unattainable ... I am particularly disgusted that truly (naturally, inside and out) beautiful girls and women are made to feel less than because they can not live up to advertisers and mass media's "false" beauty.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:16 PM
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18. Excellent clip!
Thank you for posting.

It would be great if we could address more issues with such powerful clarity.

K&R and bookmarked.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 04:15 PM
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19. K&R!
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 04:19 PM
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20. It's not just women
Oprah's magazine published a photo currently available on the DOJ website of Patrick Fitzgerald in their October '06 issue. They airbrushed it prior to printing...

:mad:
Julie
still president for life of the PFEB
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 04:33 PM
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22. oh, jeez, really?
I didn't know about that. Do magazine editors really think people won't buy magazines if the people in them look real? It seems that is their twisted justification but do they have any proof of such nonsense?

Fixing red eye is one thing, but this is all getting waaay too ridiculous.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 04:20 PM
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21. recommended
I saw the clip on the news the other day

glad to have a link to share with others
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 04:40 PM
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23. When my daughter went into the 4th grade...
(before puberty hit-when girls self esteem takes a nose dive), I sat her down with some fashion magazines and we flipped through them. I taught her what to look for and how they were doctored. She loved looking at them to 'catch' the advertisers fibbing. Since we were in the mountains and got no tv reception (and I refused to get cable) we spent her formative years without that type of input. We lived in the country-kids were expected to be kids. She once told be that she would never join the cheer leading squad-you have more fun playing on the field. As a result of effort and environment, she doesn't sweat crap like that and she is better for it. Sure she will wear makeup and likes to dress nice, and sometimes dye her hair a funky colour (bubble gum pink was the funniest) but she is not obsessed-it is more of a way to express herself-not fulfill someones expectations of what she should look or be.

Kudos to Dove-I love the campaign for real beauty.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:22 PM
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24. my mom use to do that with me when I was a kid!
My mom was a photographer when I was younger and "find the fake stuff" was a favorite game of ours. 'Till this day I can't pass a Cosmopolitan Magazine without laughing at the ridiculous boob enhancement shadow that they do ON EVER SINGLE COVER. I'm starting to think the boob shadow is truly their signature thing. Then, of course, there's the thinning of the upper thighs on every "fitness" mag. :eyes:
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 09:20 AM
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30. I'm shocked, shocked...
to learn they photo shop the fitness mag photos :sarcasm:

Well, did your Mom's talk work? We always play 'who had the boob job' too. And about the space between the thighs--not a reality if you know anatomy in women. I would worry about her baby dropping out prematurely if that were the norm (due to the need for stronger ligaments etc at the pubic area and the hip socket angle). Women are suppose to have extra padding in those places. It is to ensure survival of the species.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:15 PM
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31. It did work
Even today I don't really see the images as actual people (although I have problems with that mindset for different reasons) but I'll focus on stuff like eyeshadow colors and application if I thought it was well done and if the model has deep set eyes like I do...that sort of thing. I rarely look at fashion magazines though and when I do I don't think to compare myself to the images. They're just so passive, distorted and seem no more life like than manaquins. Then again, the manaquins are distorted too so it makes sense I guess. :crazy:

Did catching the fake parts help you growing up?
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 01:56 PM
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32. I wasn't so fortunant....
Edited on Thu Oct-19-06 01:57 PM by AnneD
I learned this on my own and was determined that when my daughter reached prepuberty (when self esteem in girls nose dives) I would 'inoculate' her against things that rob young girls of their confidence. Navigating into young adulthood is tough on girls what with all of the 'socialization'. As Susan Sarandon said in Little Women, 'I can't promise you a just world, but I know you will make it a better world'. I wanted her to realize that beauty within is the best beauty. It's nice to be beautiful, but it is better to be smart. I really wish I had been where she is at now. She is 16 and has it going on. Level headed, smart, accurately size folks up, set people at ease and has friends from all walks of life. That comes directly from having self confidence.
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 07:54 PM
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25. There's a PR website that shows before and after photos
of celebs. The site is called http://fluideffect.com/

I showed that site to my daughter so she could see that famous people look just like the rest of us before they're digitized.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 09:35 PM
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27. Is that Britney in the third photo?
'Cause I know this is supposed to be about inner beauty and all, but if I was a guy and I woke up next to that, I would be scared.

Photoshopping: taking away 15 years of sun damage in an hour.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 09:21 PM
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26. K&R
better late than never. :D
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 09:42 PM
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28.  I get the general point but it is ridiculous to assume all people are as
others. Sorry but with obesity rampant in todays culture, it should NOT be okay to tell people fat is "beautiful".But anorexic isn't beautiful either.We should encourage healthy as beautiful! And the sad fact is every civilization sets standards of beauty and not everyone is going to meet that aesthetic.But there is nothing wrong with a standard. When I was in college majoring in theater , I took a makeup class and there are actual measurements you take of the face to determine "classic " beauty, the idea being you use makeup to achieve that goal.The point is no one is perfect but it doesn't mean you still can't have an aesthetic standard.At the same time many models are considered "beautiful" because they are exotic not "classic. Beauty will always be in the eye of the beholder.If we made beauty just a normal attribute as with singing, dancing or blue eyes we would all be better off. Most people aren't devastated that they aren't prima ballerinas.So they shouldn't be devastated if they aren't "classic" beauties.
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 09:49 PM
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29. wonderful! I love how the woman is average, in reality. The supermodel is
all artificial.
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