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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 10:05 AM
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Andy's Election
Edited on Fri Oct-27-06 04:35 PM by newyawker99
My bar has been running this neat gimmick for several years now. If you drink every kind of beer they have in the place - about 130 labels when you combine the bottles, the taps and the unutterably wretched stuff they keep buried under the dumpster out back - your reward is a 25-ounce mug that can be filled from the taps for the regular pint price. Moreover, you get to emboss your mug with the name of your favorite author. The only caveat: the author has to be dead.

I got my own mug approximately ten thousand years ago, and the author I chose was H.L. Mencken. It seemed a good choice, as it was Mencken who once said, "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." Given the times, I could not imagine a more accurate statement.

But then, in the summer of 2005, my friend Andy Stephenson passed away due to pancreatic cancer. Andy had devoted years of his life to sounding an alarm over the unbelievable flaws in the new electronic voting machines that had been foisted on the American public by the Help America Vote Act. He went so far as to run for Secretary of State in Washington on a platform centered around making sure elections had a verified paper trail to follow once the voting was done. Even while ill, Andy gave himself to this issue, teaching classes on how to audit your election and writing as much as he could on the matter.

After he died, I had the folks at my bar change the name on my mug. It says "Andy Stephenson" now, and I will be raising his name in a toast on Tuesday, November 7th. Whether it will be a toast to success or yet another farewell to American democracy remains to be seen, but one thing is certain. In my mind, this is Andy's election.

What would Andy think of the news stories that have been coming out over the last days and weeks?

Just today, the UK Guardian published a report titled "US Warned of Ballot Box Chaos as Elections Near." The report goes on to state that, "Six years after the emergence of the now infamous 'hanging chad' in the 2000 presidential elections, monitoring groups warn that technological glitches and hackers could throw next month's mid-term elections into chaos. With polling day less than two weeks away, a report this week by electionline.org, a non-partisan organisation, anticipates problems at the ballot box in as many as 10 states.
In many states, voters will be casting their votes electronically for the first time. The officials at the polling stations may be equally inexperienced, and because such workers are typically elderly and retired, critics say they may be particularly poorly equipped to deal with any technological problems."

"Those concerns crystallised last month," continues the Guardian report, "when a Princeton professor of computer science, Edward Felton, and two colleagues managed to hack into a new electronic voting machine without detection and install a virus that could alter vote counts - and go on to infect a wider network of machines. The exercise, which Mr Felton repeated on television, took about a minute to complete."

DeForest Soaries, Bush's first appointed chairman of the US Election Assistance Commission, recently stated that election systems currently in place in the United States, specifically the new electronic systems, are "ripe for stealing elections and for fraud."

In a mainstream media interview that was never aired, Soaries said of these new election systems, "There is no prototype. There are no standards. There is no scientific research that would guarantee any election district that there's a machine that can be used to answer these very serious questions. And so, my sense is that the politicians in Washington have concluded that the system can't be all that bad because, after all, it produced them. And as long as an elected official is an elected official, then whatever machine was used, whatever device was used to elect him or her, seems to be adequate. But there's an erosion of voting rights implicit in our inability to trust the technology that we use and if we were another country being analyzed by America, we would conclude that this country is ripe for stealing elections and for fraud."

This week's Mail and Guardian carried a story titled "Voting Problems Loom in US Election." The report reads, "Long lines and long counts threaten to mar next month's United States congressional elections as millions of Americans put new voting machines and rules to the test, election officials and experts say. Many of the changes take effect this year, when one-third of voters will cast their ballots on new electronic machines whose reliability in a national election is unproven. Ohio - where Democratic voters in 2004 complained that long lines in their neighbourhoods kept them from voting - and Pennsylvania are two states with major races where the voting process will be closely watched on November 7. Other states include Maryland, which had problems with its September primary election, and Georgia and Missouri, where courts threw out new voter-identification requirements and experts see a potential for disputes."

NBC's Utah affiliate KSL published a story this past week titled "Some Question Security of E-Voting Machines." The report read, "Two weeks before Election Day and red flags are still going up about new electronic voting machines in Utah and nationally. The big question is ... are the machines, and by definition even the elections, secure? As voters go to the polls, it's a whole new world. But there's a ghost of doubt hovering over the elections of 2006, thanks to the debacle of Florida in 2000. After more problems in Ohio in 2004, it's safe to say there's a growing perception our votes could be corrupted."

Columnist Bruce O'Dell, in an article this week titled "Pull the Plug on E-Voting," stated, "Voting by computer may be inherently untrustworthy and in practice poorly crafted, overpriced, prone to breakdowns and wide open to subversion - but at least it's less accurate than counting by hand. Here's an indictment of the IT profession, and a fine irony: the degree of independent hand-auditing of paper ballot records sufficient to verify the corresponding computerized vote tallies is comparable to the effort required to more accurately count all the ballots by hand in the first place, dispensing with the machines. But until that day arrives, the programs that the voting vendors actually distribute - as opposed to the software they may say they distribute - will continue to determine who takes power after the votes are tallied."

Maryland, it seems, is having quite an adventure with its new electronic voting machines. One story published by the Washington Post titled "Voting Machines Had Defective Part" reports that, "The maker of Maryland's electronic voting system replaced a flawed electronic component in several thousand touch-screen voting machines in 2005, state election officials acknowledged this week. To eliminate unpredictable 'screen freezes' that have occurred since the machines were first used in Maryland in 2002, Diebold Election Systems installed new system boards in about 4,700 voting machines from four Maryland counties: Allegany, Dorchester, Montgomery and Prince George's. The screen freezes do not cause votes to be lost, officials said, but they confuse voters and election judges who sometimes wonder whether votes cast on a frozen machine will be counted."

Virginia is also enjoying the fun. A story that also appeared in the Post titled "Some Voting Machines Chop Off Candidates' Names" reports that, "U.S. Senate candidate James Webb's last name has been cut off on part of the electronic ballot used by voters in Alexandria, Falls Church and Charlottesville because of a computer glitch that also affects other candidates with long names, city officials said yesterday. Thus, Democratic candidate Webb will appear with his first name and nickname only - or "James H. 'Jim'" - on summary pages in Alexandria, Falls Church and Charlottesville, the only jurisdictions in Virginia that use balloting machines manufactured by Hart InterCivic of Austin."

Perhaps the most disturbing report on these new voting machines came from writer Andy Ostroy in an article titled "Another Stolen Election Headed Our Way?" The center of this report is an interview with voting rights activist and New York University professor Mark Crispin Miller, who is flatly terrified that the kinds of fraud we saw in 2002 and 2004 will be repeated again this November.

Thankfully, Miller provided a list of actions voters can take if they think their vote isn't being counted:

1. Vote, vote, vote...and get everyone you know to vote as well;

2. Write your congressmen and senators and demand uniformity and federal standards for the election process. Demand an end to electronic voting machines unless there's a viable paper trail. Demand paper ballots instead. Ask that election day be declared a national holiday;

3. Bombard the media with letters and calls that demand coverage of election fraud;

4. Organize demonstrations;

5. Go armed to the polls next month with 1-866-OUR-VOTE and call it immediately to report any fraudulent and/or suspicious activity.


Many factors will decide the outcome of the November midterms. The carnage in Iraq and the staggering death toll absorbed by American soldiers and Iraqi civilians will play a part. The rank corruption of Jack Abramoff and his Republican congressional cronies will play a part. The scandal surrounding Rep. Mark Foley will play a part. The immigration debate that has divided the Republican party will play a part. The courageous decision by a New Jersey court to grant equal rights to gay couples will play a part, because the Religious Right intends to use that decision to whoop up the conservative base.

In the end, however, crummy and easily-hackable electronic voting machines manufactured by companies with financial ties to the Republican Party may play the greatest part of all. Andy Stephenson lived and died trying to warn us about these things. The good news, for Andy and for us all, is that these news reports are drawing much-needed attention to the problem. The bad news, simply, is that the problems still exist, and may come to determine who holds power in America after January.

One way or another, I will be raising Andy's glass on November 7th. Hopefully, that glass will not be filled, once again, with bitter dregs.


http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/102706A.shtml
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 10:07 AM
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1. I never met Andy, but your title has me on the verge of tears,
I will try to get through it. I will toast his memory on election night.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 10:08 AM
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2. oops, wrong post
Edited on Fri Oct-27-06 10:09 AM by DinahMoeHum
n/t
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 10:09 AM
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3. Andy
:toast: :patriot: :loveya: :cry:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 10:17 AM
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4. To Andy.
Grazie, Will Pitt.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 10:26 AM
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5. Andy is with all of us every day.....
I have pictures of Andy and friends from several events and gatherings we attended. I have the pictures in my photo gallery and use those pic's as my slide show screen saver. I have you Will Pitt in a few too. I'll tell ya this much, it always keeps me focused when I see Andy's charming cherub face.
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 10:26 AM
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6. Oh Will...
:hug:

I will raise my glass here in Austin among many of Andy's friends. And we will laugh or we will cry. But we will do it without the best of us. I still miss him and I can only hope he is up there as a guardian angel watching over this election. :cry:

We have to make sure they aren't allowed to steal this election too...Andy is watching. Working for fair and open elections is the best thing we can do to honor his memory. :)

Paper ballots not vapor ballots!
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 10:35 AM
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7. To Andy!
I never met him in person but he is often in my thoughts. A new Duer in another thread yesterday was confused when someone mentioned him. Where do you begin to tell the story of Andy Stephenson? It should be a screenplay and cast Phillip Seymour Hoffman as Andy. We all have to carry on his work. I will toast to him on November 7th with a secret wish that he is watching over us all.

:toast: :patriot:
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 10:35 AM
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8. Hear, Hear....................
:toast:
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 10:36 AM
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9. To Andy. Thanks, Will
N/T
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 10:44 AM
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10. vote
I have already voted in the Oregon vote by Male

I am taking those 3days off Mon-Wed with Tuesday election day


I will raise my Heineken to him when we win 7th November
As I will know he will be looking down and finally smiling
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 10:51 AM
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11. Here's to Andy....may we continue in his foot steps.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 10:55 AM
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12. Beuatifully written, Will!. As always.
You are fortunate to have known Andy. We are all fortunate to have been touched by him and his work. He is truly missed.:cry:

To Andy and Our Democracy, which he fought so vigorously to protect!
:toast: :beer:
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 10:58 AM
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13. I like the sound of that
"Andy's Election". I didn't know Andy, either, but I feel like I did. I believe...cautiously, but I do believe - that Andy will be smiling down on us on November 7th, and that we will be smiling with him.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 11:44 AM
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14. Not gonna fall off the main page just yet
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 11:56 AM
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15. excellent
summary of current e-voting issues, and advice about what to do if (when) there are problems encountered by voters. Thanks, Will.

:toast: to Andy
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SeattleRob Donating Member (893 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 12:37 PM
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16. Because these problems still exist
I am having trouble being optimistic about the upcoming election.

If we do sweep the bastards out of office, I will drink a toast to Andy.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 01:04 PM
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17. Andy's Election - link to final here
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 01:46 PM
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18. Video the Vote
Edited on Fri Oct-27-06 01:46 PM by GliderGuider
This is an e-mail I got from GNN.
If you have a video camera, take it to the polls with you.
And good luck, neighbours.

Thank you for being a supporter of American Blackout. Many of you have expressed your outrage after seeing the film. Now there is something you can do about it as a part of the End The Blackout Campaign for the '06 mid-term elections.

On November 7th, join us as we "Video the Vote"--a team of everyday Americans dispatched with cameras to capture problems with the vote as they happen, and pushing them through the media on Election Day. To participate, all you need is a video camera, a cell phone, and the ability to get to problematic places on Election Day, should something
happen. No camera? You can still volunteer to help dispatch videographers or with logistics. Democracy only works when people have free and fair access to the vote, and together, we can make sure that it does. Join us today:

http://www.videothevote.org

-- American Blackout Team
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 02:23 PM
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19. For Andy
:toast: You are missed.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 02:44 PM
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20. To Andy and all of the other fighters in the trenches
:toast::toast:
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 02:54 PM
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21. We'll be drinking with you again, Brother
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 02:56 PM
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22. To Andy and All of Our Fallen DUers
That's my motivation. We owe to all of our fallen brethren and sistren.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 03:01 PM
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23. Once again you've made me tear up, Will
To Andy! I know he'll be watching over us as we go to the polls.
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19jet54 Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 03:05 PM
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24. I don't drink but,
Here is to you Andy! Thanks for sharing.
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 03:20 PM
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25. A toast to COPPERTOP!
We miss you Andy!
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 03:31 PM
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26. Thank you, WIll. Thank you, Andy...
He called me in April of 2005, when he was quite unwell, to coach me through the E-voting vendor fair in our county. Reeps wanted Diebold. We killed THAT. We got Hart Intercivic--a Phyrric victory.

I'm a poll watcher now. Can't publish what I've got yet, but fully expect to testify if necessary. The right--or, shall we say Left-- folks have the info.

Andy, somehow I know you know.

Now you know I know you know.

Thank you.

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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 03:35 PM
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27. Forever Andy
:loveya:
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 03:45 PM
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28. Thank you for this!
I always appreciate your words. Peace, Kim
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 05:03 PM
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29. Andy Reminds Me of a Song by Elton John
Edited on Fri Oct-27-06 05:04 PM by benny05
Candle in the Wind...in the sense that I never knew him, but he was a bright light in this community. I remember when many started and contributed to a fund for his surgery since he didn't have the money for it, only to be gone awhile later, but his legend is still here.

Thanks, William for relighting that candle...and hopefully many more for November 8th of joy and not farewell.


For Andy S.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 05:12 PM
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30. Hi Will -- I feel confident today that there will be a very overwhelming
vote against this government that will tend to diminish the ability of the opposition to "fix it." This opinion was advanced today by Ed Schultz on his Friday, October 27th radio show.

He also urged people to volunteer with their local Democratic organization. We've done that already and things are pretty quiet here in Oregon. There is one statewide race we are working on mostly.

Also, we vote by mail, which means that many Oregonians have already received their election packet, as we have. We've been in Florida from October 6 to the 25th. So, many people will already have voted on their punch cards and mailed in their vote.

We've live in a blue part of a blue state. I don't hear much arguing for the Republican agenda now.

Anyway, thanks for the brilliant post. I don't have Andy's mug, but we'll sure share a beer with you in absentia at some local pub.

GO DEMOCRATS!

In peace,

Radio_Lady in Oregon
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melissinha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 05:27 PM
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31. Cheers to Andy
Edited on Fri Oct-27-06 05:30 PM by melissinha
:beer:
We will all be hoisting one for him....

:cry: I didn't know him, but through the generous stories of DUers and support from Mike Malloy.... I hoped he would survive but alas his spirit and work will.

TO ANDY! :beer:

And to the freepers that kept saying he wasn't sick and was defrauding us and who interfered .... GO TO HELL! :grr: Andy's work will finally come to fruition and you'll eat your shorts.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 06:11 PM
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32. K & R
N/T
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 06:21 PM
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33. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 06:48 PM
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34. Dammit.
If only Andy could see now what is about to happen.

Maybe he can; I'm trying to channel him.

:)
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RadiDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 06:57 PM
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35. Thanks Will - The Reichwingers on Wikipedia got Andy's article DELETED >
There is a group of RepubliCON editors whose mission is to get info that makes them look bad deleted. They suceeded in spamming enough votes to delete Andy's article. After the HBO show comes out , there should be more MSM mentions of him, and it can be rewritten.

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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 07:32 PM
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36. Glad to see Andy's spirit...
...reach out and touch us all again. Especially in print. Especially at this time.

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 07:35 PM
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37. here`s a useful site for election watchers
http://citmedia.org/projects/electiondaylaw
Election Day Bloggers' Legal Guide: Your Questions | Center for Citizen Media

andy was a great person who will always be remembered here at du...one is truly remembered by one`s deeds
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 08:43 PM
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38. To Andy.

"May the road rise to meet you,
May the wind be always at your back,
May the sun shine warm upon your face,
The rains fall soft upon your fields,
And until we meet again,
May God hold you
In the palm of his hand.

:toast:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 09:08 PM
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39. I think with some coverage that now seems to be
making it into the mainstream, Andy would feel some vindication were he still with us. I think also he would press for vigilance and documentation until our voting problems are solved. All I can say is here's to Andy :toast:
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 12:00 AM
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40. For Andy! n/t
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 03:32 AM
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41. You're breaking my heart.
I knew of Andy & his mission because of DU. I met him on January 5, 2005 in DC @ the bar where DUers were meeting the night before the electoral college vote on January 6th. Being unaware of the time change, Andy & I arrived about an hour & 1/2 too early. We introduced ourselves to each other - 'Are you here for the DU gathering?'...and talked for the 90+ minutes; traded outrages; heard about the attacks on him by she who will not be named. That night I met the people I would hang w/ the next morning @ Lafayette Park. Andy was not feeling well, had some vague complaints about tiring easily, not sleeping well but he tossed it off. He left in the early afternoon but appeared @ the bar that night. I didn't get to talk to him much that night. I do remember Will & Andy greeting each other & laughing. I had to leave early, my trip back to the left coast started the next morning.

I treasure the memory of that trip. I was dumbstruck when I read of Andy's diagnosis a couple of months later. Was happy to be able to contribute to his medical fund; was outraged at the attacks on him by rw hatefreaks and the obstacles/lies they manufactured to slow his treatment; was deeply saddened at the news of his passing.

I will be leaving the polling place (I have volunteered to be a polling place clerk - better to see what is happening from inside) at least 3 hours after all of you on EST will have started your celebration and election analysis. I'll drag myself home and come here to catch up on the news.

So be it! Andy deserves the honor and tribute.

Tuesday, November 7, 2006 - To Andy!
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 03:39 AM
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42. Thanks Andy!
:patriot:
You were right. Any progress must follow a vote, which may enable real journalism, which may enable progress in government.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 05:47 AM
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43. Thanks Will...I too will be raising a glass, and voting from here in Estonia!
I vote from the US embassy, and since this is my first time casting a ballot from overseas, I am not sure if fraud will take place at the ballot-box or by those counting the votes.

Nevertheless, I'll be watching closely, and helping any way I can. Chimpy is coming here to Estonia at the end of November, so hopefully, he'll be coming here a lamer, dumber, duck than he already is.

VOTER-VERIFIED PAPER BALLOTS!

For America, and for Andy.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:44 AM
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49. needed a kick...and a picture
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 06:04 AM
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44. Did somebody say ANDY?
Here's MY Tribute to Him, all I could afford to do when he passed, couldn't make the funeral, but had to do SOMETHING for him, and those who loved him.

I'd raise a glass to him, but some of us have decided not to drink anymore, and that's a Good Thing where that some of us are concerned :)

He's here, right here, with us, always has been and always will be, and he'll be IN that Voting Booth with you.

Watch the Tribute and you'll know why.

http://web.takebackthemedia.com/geeklog/public_html/staticpages/index.php?page=20050710095608538

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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 07:00 AM
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46. You put together a very moving tribute, Symbolman.
And your point about it being a good thing for "some of us" deciding not to drink any more being a Good Thing was very tactfully put and very appropriate. I wish that the Election Night posters on DU would be alcohol free - or at least limit themselves to 1 or 2 drinks. If someone just has to get drunk, that's their choice, but then they should step away from their keyboards. I'll be working at the polls in an official capacity from 6 a.m. to probably 9 p.m. so will be anxious to get on line and get results.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 07:11 AM
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47. Good for you, and THANK YOU
for serving our country in that capacity, much appreciated, very much..

As for some people not drinking, I meant myself, just so there's no confusion. Not that I'm a friend of Bill's now, just that I've grown up some and don't like that "other person" that a person can become who destroys other's hopes in the throes of a binge of Depression Juice, when they are using it as a "Happy Happy Make the Pain Go Away" juice :)

We need clear heads to lead us when the fog of war is upon us, and do not need someone waving a Rope around trying to start a lynching party for attention's sakes :)

And it's not hard to go there, I used to live there, and the lizard layer of the brain is supposed to be the part that drives you home, not pick your future wife or Candidate..

Of course if we SWEEP both Houses I may just raid the Liquor AND Gun Store :)

Thanks for fighting the good fight, we need a million more like you.. like I used to say to my best pal, "We're gonna need people like YOU, when the HUMANS Take Over!" :)
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 06:43 AM
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45. Andy Photo/Story -- A Day in the Sun (well, 2 days actually)
This was taken outside the Nashville Gathering where Andy gave his speech My Ballot.




The other "day in the sun" was January 6th, 2005

Although I had "virtually known" Andy, that was the day I was first able to put a face to the name. As luck would have it this happened in the office of Senator Barbara Boxer - minutes after she announced her historic decision to join in the formal objection to the unlawful Ohio electors.

Like many, I was rushing to confirm the rumor that had blazed through the Senate office buildings and get my own copy of the press release. I wouldn't really meet Andy until that evening at Will's watering hole, but it was there that I "coded" Andy for the first time, standing across the outer office.

Now, this is not the kind of thing you can really know either way, but it has since occurred to me that it may well be that it was Andy Himself that Senator Boxer simply could not say no to.

If true, it wouldn't surprise anyone who knew him.

--
www.january6th.org
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 08:03 AM
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48. K+R
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:46 PM
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50. THANKS WILL - THROUGH HIS FRIENDS AND THROUGH
The HOURS WE SPEND ON THE cAUSE HE LIVES ON IN OUR HEARTS AND HE WATCHES OVER US
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