Well, Ms Allyson on the Most is defending waterboarding?

[madfloridian]

Or at least not opposing it? She is talking calmly and pleasantly with a man who thinks waterboarding is just fine and dandy.

So this is where we are now.

[CottonBear]

1. This is what water boarding looks like:

Here's a painting by a former Khymer Rouge prisoner that shows the waterboard in action:


one of the actual waterboards used by the Khymer Rouge:


http://www.davidcorn.com/archives/2006/09/this_is_what_wa.php

[Greeby]

3. Never forget: The BFEE supported the Khmer Rouge in exile

As documented in John Pilger's 1990 followup documentary. Cambodia: The Betrayal
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Queen+Eleanor+Street&ie=UTF8&z=17&ll=52.059642,-0.84305&spn=0.004301,0.013561&t=k&om=1

[CottonBear]

5. I did not know that. BTW, your link is not to the topic but to a map.

Can you post the correct link? Thanks!

[Greeby]

7. Is it? Oh dear

Sometime I press copy and it doesn't work, so I inadvertently paste the last thing I had copied

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-8001898387464764449&q=John+Pilger

There we go, that's got it

[CottonBear]

8. Thanks! n/t

[Little Star]

2. She is young, maybe she just needs

some schooling on the issue. I peg her as liberal leaning. Usually she calls it like it is (from what I've seen anyway).

[madfloridian]

4. The guy was a specialist in torture...defending it.

He had been waterboarded, and he had done it. He was making it sound like a piece of cake kind of torture. She was smiling and nodding, and not really questioning much at all.

Nothing to it...waterboarding is nothing at all.

[sweetpotato]

6. If there is nothing to it

WHY DO IT?

[madfloridian]

11. I had a sick feeling watching it. He was so casual...

about taking another human being to the point of feeling like they were dying. He just spoke so calmly, like torture was an everyday thing. But his eyes were empty really.

And Allyson Schwartz just went along with it calmly. I did not hear her actually agree, but she did not disagree either.

[Avalux]

9. It's just a dunk in water.

According to Cheney, it's a no brainer to be able to do this to evil terrorists to get information. It's not torture, it's just a dunk in water. Why all the fuss? :shrug:

[librechik]

10. heh--waterboarding is just a slam "dunk" for Cheney--I finally got it

he really said THAT???