First read Noonan's major dissing of GWB. Then read Greenwald.

[BurtWorm]

Noonan:

http://opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110009154

Sample:

Republican political veterans go easy on ideology, but they're tough on incompetence. They see Mr. Bush through the eyes of experience and maturity. They hate a lack of care. They see Mr. Bush as careless, and on more than Iraq--careless with old alliances, disrespectful of the opinion of mankind. "He never listens," an elected official who is a Bush supporter said with a shrug some months ago. Along the way the president's men and women confused the necessary and legitimate disciplining of a coalition with weird and excessive attempts to silence Republican critics. They have lived in a closed system. They now want to open it but don't know how. Listening is a habit; theirs has long been to suppress.

In the Republican base, that huge and amorphous thing, judgments are less tough, more forgiving. But there too things have changed.

There remains a broad, reflexive, and very Republican kind of loyalty to George Bush. He is a war president with troops in the field. You can see his heart. He led us in a very human way through 9/11, from the early missteps to the later surefootedness. He was literally surefooted on the rubble that day he threw his arm around the retired fireman and said the people who did this will hear from all of us soon.

Images like that fix themselves in the heart. They're why Mr. Bush's popularity is at 38%. Without them it wouldn't be so high.



Now read Greenwald:

http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/10/peggy-noonan-and-rotting-pundit-class.html

[Rockstone]

1. Hard to read Nooner

She's a shit ferreting porcine

[BurtWorm]

2. This one goes down relatively easy.

It's light on the saccharine.

[Rockstone]

3. read the greenwald

he nails it. We're taking names people. You will not get a Do-over! You picked the wrong fucking horse Piggy...

[senseandsensibility]

4. peggy noonan is one repulsive

shill. Don't read her "prose" on a full stomach.

[Supersedeas]

9. Gore changed anxiety to hope and that kills her--WHAT!?!

[senseandsensibility]

13. She doesn't even pretend to make sense

She probably feels she is "above" logic. I find her scary.

[MasonJar]

5. Excellent! Thank you for posting Greenwald's insightful analysis.

[Elidor]

6. Excellent piece

And one of Noonan's lines really jumped out at me:

Republican political veterans go easy on ideology...
Really? Since when?

but they're tough on incompetence.
This is Fantasyland.

This is a rat leaving the sinking ship, and hoping nobody noticed her previous cheerleading.

[indepat]

8. Peggy jumped on the Reagan-administration incompetence like ugly on an ape,

like, man, she was all over it, crucifying the Gipper at every mistake, big and little.

[Fovea]

18. Yes indeed

that is why they immpeached Clinton, and put someone who ran a series of businesses off the cliff in the WH.
Noonan will say anything- truth not withstanding.

[enough]

7. Great juxtaposition.

Greenwald is right on as usual.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

11. Thanks for posting this.

Mr. Greenwald is dead on....

[BurtWorm]

15. kick

[Raksha]

10. The real classic was the 2004 Piggy Noonan column

that Glenn Greenwald links to. Wow, talk about a FLIP-FLOPPER!

[donco6]

12. Wasn't that downright REPULSIVE?!

"Intellectuals cause all the trouble."

Well, I guess if that's true, what's your excuse, Peggy?

[tblue37]

14. I am reminded of Andrew Sullivan,

though he at least jumped ship early and endorsed Kerry in 2004.

[bleever]

16. Read Noonan, then read Greenwald, if you're curious

about how the waves are breaking.

Not only did she bet on the wrong horse. The wrong horse, about which she was so adamant in dismissing the doubts and concerns of serious people, including Republicans, not only didn't win the race, it pulled out a gun and started firing into the stands.


Too late to say you had your doubts.

[Fovea]

17. Please read my responses in this other thread...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2499009

[Uncle Joe]

19. Thanks for posting Burtworm

Personally, I believe Bush is just a symptom of our dysfunctional mass corporate media, the end result of years of lies built upon lies to the American People.

Kicked and recommended



:kick:

[Canuckistanian]

20. Make sure every last one of them is firmly fastened to Bush

The whole mighty machine that kept the dictator in power, viciously suppressed criticism and provided cover for the worst political atrocities in modern history should be prepared to go down with the S.S. Dubya.

Never let them forget it. Make sure their names go down in the history books right alongside his.

[eppur_se_muova]

21. Noonan doesn't write logic, she pushes emotional buttons. No attempt to make sense.

...which is exactly the way to appeal to the sort of people who supported Reagan, and now support Bu**sh**. Just give them their hyperventilating macho partiotism and you can count on them not to inspect it for rational consistency, or even blatant contradiction. If it feels good, it is good. Let's keep thinking out of it.

Then, of course, they turn around and slander the liberals as appealing to "the warm fuzzies". What's parrototism (gosh, did I misspell that badly?) but the biggest, baddest, 800-pound gorilla of all the warm fuzzies? Oh, wait, that would be religion ... no, wait, let's COMBINE THE TWO !! Whoever's not with us is against and why do they hate America and aren't they all just godless perverts attacking our Jesus-loving Presnit who God told us to vote for!! Whoever said "patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel" obviously never had experience with that potent church/state blend.