Did you see the FL. voter on Lou Dobbs? He voted for Nelson and CRUELLA

[in_cog_ni_to]

came up as who he voted for! He called the powers that be and insisted the machine be fixed. I missed whether they showed up or not.

Isn't it uncanny how EVERY error favors the repuke in the race??? :eyes: Just a coincidence, I'm sure.:grr:

[pooja]

1. wow, so important.... wish the man had his camera phone to picture

it...

[Eric J in MN]

2. Similar experience happened to a voter in Missouri.

Press Claire McCasill (D), get Jim Talent (R):
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2494271

[in_cog_ni_to]

4. Is it not OBVIOUS that FRAUD is going on here???!!!

The mistakes ALWAYS FAVOR THE REPUKE IN THE RACE!

[Eric J in MN]

3. It isn't enough to add printers to touchscreen machines.

We need to replace them, at least with optical-scan ballots, or better yet with paper-ballots-publicly-hand-counted.

[in_cog_ni_to]

5. I AGREE! Give me a piece of paper and a pencil!

This election will be a major nightmare. I feel it coming already.

[City Lights]

11. No pencils - too easy to erase. We need paper and indelible pens. eom

[in_cog_ni_to]

21. You're right. Paper and indelible pens!

:hi:

[fooj]

6. Same happening in MO.

So many coincidences, eh?:grr:

[pooja]

7. And exactly how was this man's vote fixed????

Is it that easy for election workers to fix the vote????

[in_cog_ni_to]

12. NOTHING is easy for the poll workers to fix on these g-d awful machines!

The poll workers depend on computer geeks or Diebold employees to "fix" the machines (that what MY county did in '04)! Therein lies our PROBLEM. The computer geek could be a repuke. We already know the Diebold employee is a repuke!

I don't know how they fix the damn machines....all I know is they CAN program the machine to flip votes and it appears that is what they did on his machine.:grr:

[BeFree]

8. "...insisted machine be fixed" ?!?!?!

Shoot, the machine WAS fixed. He should have insisted the machine WAS fixed. And not take no for an answer. And that, my friends, is your clue.

[in_cog_ni_to]

17. Well, it sounded like the man wasn't going anywhere until

he got his vote for Nelson and other Dems to register on the machine. HE WAS MAD!

[BeFree]

19. Another clue

Get MAD! Don't go away mad, get even.

Good for that guy. He stood up for his vote.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

9. Hmmm... Maybe this incident shows that if you have a camera phone, bring it to vote?

At least that way you DO sorta have a papertrail of how YOU voted?

[in_cog_ni_to]

13. I'm taking my camera phone with me.

EVERYONE should, if they have one. TAKE A PICTURE!

[soup]

10. "Minor glitches" article from this morning-

"Minor" glitches?! Ain't no such thing, if you ask me.

Posted on Fri, Oct. 27, 2006

ELECTIONS
Only minor glitches reported in early voting
Thousands of voters in South Florida have already cast their ballots during early voting this week. So far, only minor machine problems were reported in Broward.
BY KATHLEEN FORDYCE AND ANI MARTINEZ
[e-mail]

>snip<
While most voters find the electronic machines easy to use, they are not foolproof, as Joan Marek discovered on Thursday at the Hollywood satellite courthouse. After casting her votes, Marek, a Democrat, was surprised to see name of Charlie Crist -- the Republican candidate for governor -- on the review screen.

>snip<
'I said to them, `This is terrible, I voted for Jim Davis, but Charlie Crist came up.' ''

She said poll workers told her the machine had been problematic before, but that they had reprogrammed it, a process they repeated after speaking to her.

Marek, an attorney, said it would have been very easy for her to press the red ''vote'' button without correcting the ballot.

`REALLY OUTRAGED'

``I was really outraged, I mean, that was really disgusting to me. And it's not like I could have made a mistake while voting. There's no way.''
>snip<
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/local/states/florida/counties/broward_county/15859148.htm

Another 'minor glitch' mentioned in the article: "On Monday, some Broward machines stopped working briefly and had to be restarted because of high-volume use."

[in_cog_ni_to]

15. SEE? That "error" favored the freakin' REPUKE again!

FRAUD!!!

[soup]

20. What does this mean?

"poll workers told her the machine had been problematic before, but that they had reprogrammed it, a process they repeated after speaking to her."

'Reprogrammed'? poll workers 'reprogrammed' the machine? Is that part of the training?

And I have to wonder how many more people didn't/don't carefully review their selections before pushing that final 'cast ballot' before sending their votes off into the great unknown.

[hedda_foil]

The pollworkers didn't reprogram the machine -- they recalibrated it.

The touchscreens go out of alignment frequently and the pollworkers are trained how to recalibrate it because all they have to do is tell it it to recalibrate and touch the four corners of the screen. That should correct the problem of the wrong candidate showing up on the screen -- though who knows what actually gets recorded. The alignment problem can be caused by jostling or bumping, but when a machine screws up after it's been recalibrated, the machine needs to be yanked from the line. That's actually what happened with the guy in Florida. They took the machine out of use. It's impossible to tell whether fraud is involved or not in any particular incident.

[hedda_foil]

22. The pollworkers didn't reprogram the machine -- they recalibrated it.

The touchscreens go out of alignment frequently and the pollworkers are trained how to recalibrate it because all they have to do is tell it it to recalibrate and touch the four corners of the screen. That should correct the problem of the wrong candidate showing up on the screen -- though who knows what actually gets recorded. The alignment problem can be caused by jostling or bumping, but when a machine screws up after it's been recalibrated, the machine needs to be yanked from the line. That's actually what happened with the guy in Florida. They took the machine out of use. It's impossible to tell whether fraud is involved or not in any particular incident.

[rzemanfl]

14. I was sign waving for Samm Simpson tonight and heard another

problem, the sign-in books are showing considerably more people than the vote totals show voted. They claim people are signing in and then leaving without voting (seems implausible to me).

[in_cog_ni_to]

16. No freaking way.

If people take the time to drive to their polling place to vote, they are going to vote...UNLESS there's a 8 hour wait. Perhaps they need to require that if people ARE leaving after signing in, they need to cross their name off the list??? Would that be too much to ask?:eyes:

[rzemanfl]

23. My wife already voted, I asked her about this while we were

getting groceries tonight. She told me you sign in at the front of the line, not the back. Their explanation is like the guy who swam three-fourths of the way across the lake, decided he couldn't make it and swam back.

[soup]

18. Trying to jog my memory

argh- can't quite 'catch it' - frustrating.

There was a small (primary?) in FL in 2004? - east coast - one precinct - perhaps at a community center - people signed in - no votes - seem to remember one statement of a 'plausible' reason being it was a protest against the electronic machines

Does anyone else remember this? I can't seem to pull up enough to even try to find the article. Darn senior moments...

---

And rzemanfl? This one's for you:

:applause: Thank you! :patriot:

[never_get_over_it]

24. Well if Katherine Harris wins this race

there can be NO question in anyone's minds that these things are fixed - she's down like 30 pts in the polls.

I live in FL and it is so disheartening to think your vote is not counted as you cast it - but one day next week I will go vote....

[Orangepeel]

25. ya know, I don't really believe this

not that I trust the voting machines; I don't. But this story doesn't make sense. The voting machines were set to record votes for Nelson as votes for Harris, but they let the voter know that first? If the "fix was in" on this particular occasion, wouldn't the machines be set to DISPLAY the right name even if they count the wrong one?