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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:41 PM
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TN-Sen: Corker's daughter making out with another girl
TN-Sen: Hypocrisy and discrimination plague Tennessee Senate race
Let's attack the black guy and his father and give a free pass to Corker's family.

Until President Bush made the error of changing the subject back to Iraq two days ago, the Republicans had Harold Ford right where they wanted him. The bachelor Ford admitted that he attended a Superbowl party last year that was sponsored by the Playboy company. When you couple that revelation with the racially driven GOP ad that was finally pulled yesterday, Ford has been successfully branded by GOP strategists as someone that does not share Tennessee's southern values.

While Ford faced all this scrutiny, Republican Bob Corker still has refused to comment on the photos that surfaced of his college-aged daughter that showed her engaging in behavior that many Tennessee voters would be embarrassed to see out of the daughter of a Senate candidate whose main theme is family values. One of the photos showed her making out with another girl. Don't you think that the Republicans would be all over Ford with smear ads if a photo surfaced of his son kissing another guy? Or how about if his son was dating a white woman?

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http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fthebluestate.typepad.com%2Fmy_weblog%2F2006%2F10%2Ftnsen_hypocrisy.html

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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:43 PM
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1. Can we all just come together and agree...
... that two hot girls kissing each other is always a good thing? Surely everyone can agree with that.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:45 PM
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5. Let's agree to leave her alone. She's not running for office. She's
acollege kid, and college kids do stupid things.

Let her be.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:55 PM
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17. From what I see, it wasn't that stupid
I would have kissed her too. Hats off to her.

If I have a point it is twofold:

1) Allegedly "homophobic" people find, as I do, two attractive women kissing each other very attractive. (They aren't really "homophobic", they are phallophobic. They find lesbians as attractive as I do. No, I don't know why.)

2) Until we get over this damn national hang-up we have with sex, this kind of "gotcha" journalism bullshit will continue.

Do I think that the fact that Corker's daughter kissed another girl in college has one iota of bearing on his capacity as a senator? No! I think Corker is unfit to be senator because he is a brainless shill of the post-NAFTA corporate elite, not because his daughter has seen fit to grace us with some sapphic revelry.

But, we live in a world where this is the kind of, as I said, "gotcha bullshit" that ruins careers. Look at all the crap the GOP pulled in Congress for over a decade now. What is the straw that breaks the freepers' back? The fact that an unmarried Congressman put the moves on some studly 17-18 year old boys who used to work for him. Hell, if you want me to be honest, that's the kind of perks a Congressman should have (as long as they aren't currently working as pages for him). I mean, seriously, I expect my leaders to be at least *somewhat* ambitious, which means they will go after what they want, and that includes sex. They shouldn't use coercion or screw their employees, but damn, as an electorate we have to accept the fact that people get laid.

Anyways, my point here was to celebrate the occurance of one hot girl kissing another. I disavow any further political meaning.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 02:17 AM
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70. Lesbians? Oh, "sure" they are
:eyes:
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 02:31 AM
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71. Lesbians don't make out at parties to turn guys on by showing how "kinky" they are.
It usually falls in the jurisdiction of "kinky" heterosexual behavior these days. It's about as lesbian as a frat party.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:45 AM
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73. no kidding. and what's that ugly guy doing with his face?
LOL
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 06:23 PM
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123. Wishing he could have either one of them.
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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:09 PM
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114. Iron cuts Iron
Repugs started this "Gotcha" bullshit. Now its time to pay them back.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 02:42 PM
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118. They started it?
Well at least you are honest.

The more sophisticated rationalizations are more disturbing.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:05 AM
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23. Excuse me. She's a Paris Hilton GOP type.
Most college kids aren't of this variety.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:09 AM
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28. Umm and you know this from a few pictures?
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SouthernBelle82 Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:41 PM
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104. Well hey now
don't insult Paris. I saw a show on VH1 this past weekend about Miami and they talked to Paris and she was wearing a John Kerry for President tshirt. Paris isn't stupid.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:07 AM
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25. "Girls just Wanta have fuunnn"
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:44 AM
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50. Reminds me of the ads for the "Girls gone Wild" Videos....
Poor Daddy....
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:26 AM
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38. Like the right wing left Chelsea alone? I am not ready to make nice!
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:27 AM
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39. Yeah, but there's a reason we deserve to be in charge and they don't
Lest we forget.

That said, I'm a proponent of attractive women making out in almost any situation.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:16 AM
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87. Bingo
From the photo, I'm thinking this is two straight drunken girls kissing, anyway.
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SouthernBelle82 Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:40 PM
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103. But she is campaigning for her father
Here in Chattanooga there is a new ad with Corker's family talking about what a great person and father he is. :eyes: So she is endorsing him and what he believes in. This also shows what a hypocrite Corker is.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:50 PM
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11. um, that's gross.
Of course I don't get turned on by two bitches kissing. :)
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:57 PM
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19. Your loss :) n/t
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:52 PM
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13. I didn't realize it was even possible for anyone to disagree with that - lol!
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:53 PM
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14. typical Republican greeting includes the removal of wristwatches
they may be moderate Goldwater Republicans

Republicans are not civil and don't deserve too much civility extended. If they had not murdered so many Iraqis for profit and not caused the deaths of more Americans than Bin Laden -based on lies


then maybe...
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:11 AM
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84. The Homosexual Political Football
- thanks -

GOP for putting gay people in the middle...now we have the deomizing of homosexual behavior on both sides in this election...

I am sick of seeing people used.

:puke:

Just keep kicking, just keep kicking, kicking, kicking, kicking...

Just keep using, using, using using...

gay people





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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:27 AM
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95. Only men think that.
:eyes:
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:21 PM
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98. I think Democrats and Republicans can agree on that one!
whoooo that's some hot stuff. This is exactly what we need to unite this country.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 06:28 PM
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124. I'm a man and I've never understood that particular fascination.
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 06:29 PM by Marr
I mean- that's the one sexual arrangement where there is no CONCEIVEABLE place for me! I mean, I've got nothing against lesbians at all- whatever makes you happy is fine as far as I'm concerned. But two women making out does nothin' for me.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:43 PM
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2. So SHE'S the one who wants Harold to "call her"
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:48 PM
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9. Damn, you beat me to that one.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:03 AM
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60. I think she wants Harolds daughter or sister to'call her'.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:43 PM
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3. Man these races keep getting uglier... for the Pugs it's all about
vote suppression
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:44 PM
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4. BUSTED!
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:46 PM
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6. Ironically, this picture was taken at the party Ford attended.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:38 AM
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43. Was it really? They article said they were at a party, but
I didn't catch that it was the same party.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:10 AM
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61. No, sorry... I should have indicated that I was joking.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:59 AM
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69. lol, I hesitated and yet, you still got me! n/t
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:56 AM
Response to Reply #69
77. Hey, stranger things have happened.
It wouldn't surprise me if it were the same party! (Notice my proper use of the subjunctive clause, Freeps!)
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:46 PM
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7. Now this is a private matter. A family matter.
How dare you invade their family privacy by accessing publicly available information on the internet about his adult daughter!

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SouthernBelle82 Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:43 PM
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105. It isn't private anymore
Not when she did an ad endorsing her father for the Senate. Sorry but she isn't private anymore. Plus why should it be private when Corker wants to butt in and have a say about who us as American adults screw around with?
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:47 PM
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8. aww isn't that just precious
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 11:48 PM by judaspriestess
such a sweet smoochie poo ........

I wonder if she is on any college girls gone wild videos

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:48 PM
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10. And then there's "panty-dancing"
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:56 PM
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18. Sir (or ma'am) I am in your debt n/t
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:52 PM
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12. Probably did it at that Playboy party Ford was at.
Just demonstrates even worse moral turpitude on his part; corrupting innocent young girls like that.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:54 PM
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15. An ad shows Ford being solicited by a white female
And racist as hell is OK? But this little bimbo kisses another bimbo, and all is ok? Why the GOP will lose.

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texasleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:54 PM
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16. That's disgusting!!!!! any more pics?
O8)
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:58 PM
Response to Reply #16
20. send to www.frc.org
and other right wing groups who hate same sex relationships.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:04 AM
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22. They're lying. Freepers love "girls gone wild"
Otherwise that particular sleaze-fest would have been bankrupted years ago. The fact is that people who are against "homosexuality" are actually against male homosexuality, and find two women having sex attractive. IMO (and this is just me as an armchair anthropologist) the problem is misogyny. Insecure men don't mind two women objectifying each other, but they recognize how much they themselves objectify women and are horrified at the thought of a man objectifying them like that. That is why homosexuality is so threatening to them. Personally, I find objectification fun from both sides of the objectification :) but I'm weird that way.

Anyways, my point is, you'll shock no freeper out of his sleep by pointing out some lipstick lesbianism among their heroines. If anything, they've been fantasizing about that. It's hot (who can disagree?) and it's "safe" to them because it doesn't threaten their sexual worldview in which women are objects and men are subjects.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:09 AM
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27. I did read a freeper thread where lesbians were hot
So they throw their homophobic ideas out the window when its women? These are weird people.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:14 AM
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31. Not weird, just misogynistic
Lesbians are cool with them because (in their minds) the women are both objectifying each other and themselves. As long as women remain objects and men remain active participants that's what they care about.

Think, for a moment, on the classic "gay fear" murder defense: "He came on to me, so I had to kill him." Well hell, if that were actually a valid murder defense, 99% of men (including me) would be dead right now and 99% of women would be vindicated killers. "Lipstick lesbianism" (or whatever you want to call it) bolsters their view of women as sex objects -- for that matter, it strengthens it. It goes back to Milton (in which Eve found herself more beautiful than Adam).
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:42 AM
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48. haha
Woo!
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montana500 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:00 AM
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21. This might give Corker more votes........ nm
nm
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:06 AM
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24. Why? n/t
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montana500 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:18 AM
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34. because I'd rather see stuff like that than Ford's ugly mug
...

just joking around.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:08 AM
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26. Julia Corker is not running for office
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 12:12 AM by Hippo_Tron
And she has no control over the fact that her dad is a crook and a moron and that he is running for office. Politicians' kids should be allowed to live a normal life without public scrutiny just like everybody else's kids get to. I believe that they are only fair game if they actively campaign for their parents.

Also, I use facebook and you can't control other people posting photos of you unless you ask them to take you down or file a complaint with the facebook people saying that they don't have your permission to post them and I can only imagine how difficult of a process that is.

You can untag the photos so that they aren't visible if someone is searching through you profile but if someone is looking they need only go into your friends' profiles and search through the pictures that they have posted.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:11 AM
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29. Julia Corker is a product of her parents beliefs
If anything she is a spoiled rich brat, much like W.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:16 AM
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32. And you know this how?
Do you know her personally. Do you have friends that know her?

And even if she is a spoiled rich brat, why does she have to forfeit her privacy because her father decided to run for office? There are plenty of spoiled rich brats that don't have their facebook pictures posted on political blogs. As far as I know, she doesn't actively make campaign appearances for her father (like the Bush twins did) and therefore I believe that she is entitled to her privacy.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:39 AM
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44. Ah, come to reality. Go ahead and support the GOP elite
and their off spring throwing our morality into our faces and laughing about it. They depend on such supporters.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:39 AM
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65. I don't support the GOP elite and I will be really mad if Corker becomes my Senator
But we can do just fine to attack him and his own lack of ethics without bringing his daughter into this. And yes I've seen two girls make out before and they weren't Republicans. This isn't the kind of thing that only happens at eliteist GOP parties.

BTW, I do apply the same standard for Republicans in case you were wondering. Even when John McCain was still somewhat independent and actually saing some things that we liked I refused to even consider giving him my support for making the comment that Chelsea Clinton was so ugly because Janet Reno was her real father.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:51 AM
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66. So you asked the girls their party persuasion or what?
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 01:52 AM by Erika
Was it at a democratic party? Are you trying to say both parties are the same. Please clarify. Thanks.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:54 AM
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68. I know the girls, they're both libereal
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 02:47 AM
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:18 AM
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88. Julia Corker is NOT a public figure
Mary Cheney is. Chelsea Clinton isn't. The Bush girls only were for a very short time in 2004. If they aren't, I say leave them alone.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:12 AM
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30. I'm sure you feel the same way about Barbara and Jenna getting drunk.
Let alone a public figure's closeted sexuality.

I wish we could have been there for Chelsea the way these repugs and their family get the support around here sometimes.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:23 AM
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37. Jenna and Barbara is a bit different, here's why
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 12:24 AM by Hippo_Tron
At the time that it happened I felt that it was wrong for Jenna and Barabara to be in the media because they used fake IDs. The fact is that people use fake IDs all the time because the 21 year drinking age is bullshit. So yes, I have a problem with the Bush twins being made a national story for something that half of my friends do but don't have to suffer public scrutiny because fortunately enough for them their parents aren't politicians.

Now, that said, I think it's valid criticism to point out that when Bush signed the Patriot Act and imposed serious penalties for using fake IDs that if his daughters were ever caught with Fake IDs again they wouldn't be subject to those penalties.

Furthermore, when Jenna and Barabara started to campaign for their father in 2004, I believe that they then became fair game for public scrutiny. Julia Corker as far as I know doesn't go around giving public speeches supporting her father and therefore I think that she should be allowed the same privacy that every kid whose parents aren't in politics gets.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:35 AM
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41. Your last bit you edited in after I posted. Love the time stamp on here.
Which I thought was weird.

And I too, think the legal age for drinking is bullshit, but your friends that you admire and the twins broke the law. You're actually trying to rationalize that the twins deserved anonymity from breaking the law because your friends friends broke the law as well?

Are you going to tell me that Mary Cheney didn't deserve to have her sexuality discussed on national TV when she was going around representing Coors Brewing company at S&M leather competitions?
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:27 AM
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62. Not intentional, I didn't read your post before editing
And I don't admire my friends for breaking the law, but the fact is that they don't get made fun of on political blogs because they do it.

And yes I agree with you about Mary Cheney. When she chose to become a public figure in her own right by representing Coors, she forfeited her right not to be scrutinized publicly as well. Jenna and Barabara didn't make the choice to become public figures, their dad did. As far as I'm concerned, they should be allowed the privacy that normal people get until they choose to become public. And in my view they made that choice when they campaigned for their father in 2004 and therefore they are fair game.

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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:33 AM
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64. Cool, bud.
Sorry if I got too indignant. I'm on that one week to go high.

I just get pissed that Chelsea didn't get as much sympathy and the Clintons actually had to appeal to the late night talk show hosts to lay off.

It just seems that the Republican kids get such a break from their indiscretions when Chelsea never did anything wrong.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:51 AM
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67. Well I certainly agree with you that there is a double standard
Chelsea got far more than she deserved and as I said in my post above, I wouldn't for one second consider voting for John McCain because of that comment he made that Janet Reno was her real father. Chelsea was only 12 when her father was elected president and almost immediately she was the subject of media scrutiny because she wasn't attractive enough in some peoples' eyes. It is absolutely digusting.

Despite this, though, I believe that this is one area where I just think that we shouldn't lower ourselves to the standards of the Republicans.



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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:46 AM
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53. Jenna and Barbara is indicative of their raising and beliefs
If you agree with their total arrogance at ignoring our laws, fine. Most GOP think only laws appy to the democrats. They and their families are "above" such laws and totallly exempt.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:32 AM
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63. And I said, that I don't have a problem with pointing that out
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 01:33 AM by Hippo_Tron
As I have said, I have no problem with pointing out the fact that when Bush signed the Patriot Act his daughtrs won't be effected by the provisions that increase the penalties for Fake IDs. The key here is that when we choose to make criticism it should be directed at the said politician and not his/her children (unless, as I said, those children choose to campaign for their parents).

Besides, there's plenty of statements that we can make about the Bush family and its beliefs by pointing to Bush's own college days. We don't need Jenna and Barbara to make that point.

*Edited to fix a grammatical error.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:33 PM
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102. Fuck that, I reject the frame entirely
Because the same frame tells me that Al Gore is terrible father because his sons drives recklessly and smokes pot.

The same frame tells me Howard Dean is a trreible father because his son stole alcohol.

I reject the frame.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:20 AM
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89. I TOTALLY agree with this, and made the same point up thread
"Furthermore, when Jenna and Barbara started to campaign for their father in 2004, I believe that they then became fair game for public scrutiny. Julia Corker as far as I know doesn't go around giving public speeches supporting her father and therefore I think that she should be allowed the same privacy that every kid whose parents aren't in politics gets."

The Bush girls smartly quit doing that, so I say leave 'em alone. until thy get away with something (say, like a draft). Mary Cheney has made herself a public figure, so she is totally fair game...
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:26 PM
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100. So we honor Chelsea by adopting the tactis of the pig
Woo hoo another proud day!

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SouthernBelle82 Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:46 PM
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106. Juila Corker endorsed her father when she did an ad for him
As I've already told recently Corker here has a new ad where his family is talking about what a great person and father he is. She is just as fair since she is going public endorsing him. If she didn't do that ad and didn't get involved with politics than you would be correct.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:29 PM
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116. I'd have to see the ad
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 01:29 PM by Hippo_Tron
IMO, I agree with you generally. As I've said, I totally think that the Bush twins are fair game because they actively campaigned for their father. IFf she's just in the background I'm not sure I'd say that's campaigning. But if she's actively endorsing him for office or his policies then I think she's fair game, do you have a link to the ad by any chance?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:17 AM
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33. does she support her dad's Senate run ?
is she campaigning for him ?

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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:22 AM
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35. Watch it. This post will brand you a homophobic (nt)
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:23 AM
Response to Reply #35
36. If watching two hot girls kiss is wrong...
... I don't want to be right.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:44 AM
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51. The point of the original post was hypocrisy and so-called Republican values
Their holier than thou attitude makes me sick. I have no problem with two girls kissing, but you can be damn sure that if one of the girls was the daughter of a Democratic candidate, it would be plastered all over the press.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:50 AM
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55. Someone's a bit defensive after having a homophobic post locked. n/t
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:21 AM
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91. Yup
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:31 PM
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 09:27 PM
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127. I stand by my post and it was not homophobic
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:30 AM
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40. Corker's daughter was mentioned in Sunday's NYT Week in Review section
-snip-

Mr. Corker’s own biographical ads gauzily showcase his conservative family, yet even he seems determined to assure voters he is no square. “After 20 years, he still makes me laugh,” Mrs. Corker says tenderly. In another one, his 18-year-old daughter, Julia, says of her father, “I think he’s hilarious.”

Mr. Corker was undoubtedly less amusing around the house when pictures of Julia kissing a girl on the lips at a college party on Facebook.com began whipping around cyberspace: one of the perils of 21st-century technology is that those who live by the Internet can die by the Internet.

-snip-

more...

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/29/weekinreview/29stanley.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:38 AM
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42. Give me a break!
I don't like defending someone who's dad is a Republican slimeball, but Julia Corker does not deserve this attention unless she is actively seeking publicity for her dad (ie. publically campaigning for him or appearing in his commercials.) While the idea of two college girls making out sounds weird to some here, it's common as hell (especially on my school's campus...there are hundreds of thousands of girls like her in colleges across the country.)

BTW, this shit cuts both ways. Wonkette actually posted Facebook pics of JFK's grandaughter (Caroline's daughter) showing her smoking with a Hookah. I guess if she wasn't a Kennedy nobody would give a shit, but she looks like a normal teenager to me.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:41 AM
Response to Reply #42
46. If you preach family values than you need to be an example.
But then again, Republicans live in Opposite Land.

Do as I say, not as I do.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:43 AM
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49. You have a point
But, like many clueless parents today, I doubt that her father knows shit about her college life. Also, Corker's "values" are merely lip-service for the Evangelicals.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:47 AM
Original message
Sure, the Evangelicals are a dying resource for voting blocks.
Which is why every situation like this chips away that much more at the hypocrisy of the candidates that they want to support.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:05 AM
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80. We all know how easy it is to control teenagers
:eyes:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:41 AM
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47. Deleted sub-thread
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SouthernBelle82 Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:48 PM
Response to Reply #42
107. In case you missed the post
Julia HAS appeared in an ad that is now playing here in Chattanooga. She is talking about what a great father and person her dad is. So she is campaigning for him. And with JFK's granddaughter the only reason why she would be fair game is if she publicly campaigned and endorsed her grandfather. If Julia hadn't gone and done that commercial she wouldn't be fair game but she has endorsed her father and his political beliefs of anti-gay b.s.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:40 AM
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45. Damn
I wouldn't mind being in that mix.
:evilgrin:
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:45 AM
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52. Well...you'll have to wait in line with Andy
:D
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:47 AM
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54. Many times these pictures come from a party where it is a drinking game
they are playing. I have seen many pictures like that and the two girls are not making out.
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:52 AM
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56. If this would have been a dem's daughter
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 12:56 AM by judaspriestess
this would be all over Faux noose as a breaking news story. These repukes give this holier than thou speech day in and day out. The fact of the matter is that porn has what doubled? since the chimp took office? How is it a bad thing for a single man to go to a super bowl party hosted by playboy? What do these hypocrites expect? for him to be celibate?

While their kids go around imitating a lickalotpuss? People shouldn't throw stones who live in glass houses is the message I see here.

on edit: I have no issues with a lickalotpuss ok :)
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:56 AM
Response to Reply #56
58. Exactly. The rightwingers would be screaming at the sins of
the dems. How curious, that now it's just a "kid's thing" because it was GOP. Can you imagine it if it had been a dem girl?
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:59 AM
Response to Reply #58
59. a kid's thing? they have stooped this low again?
that is disgusting, so now they feed into the pedophiles. these people are truly morally bankrupt
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:56 AM
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57. "Girls Gone Wild" Tennessee style. OOOOhhhweee.
:bounce:
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:48 AM
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74. This is dumb.
If a Republican did this to a Democratic candidate, people here would be screaming about it. It's just as unfair for a Dem to do this. Leave the candidates' kids out of it.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:54 AM
Response to Reply #74
75. You miss the point
A Republican COULDN'T do this to a Democratic candidate, because Democrats do not campaign on homophobia.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:58 AM
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78. You think they wouldn't?
Rove doesn't have the highest standards - any dirt that he can fling, he will fling. This isn't about homophobia, it's just about embarrassing & hopefully damaging a candidate by publicizing his family. I don't like that, whether it's posting pictures from a frat party, or calling Chelsea Clinton ugly. Just leave the kids out of it.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:02 AM
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79. If candidates want their kids left out of it,
they should refrain from trotting them out as campaign props.

Calling Chelsea ugly never lost either Clinton a vote; this might actually make some fundies stay home next Tuesday. So I'd say it's a good thing all in all.

Of course, my heart goes out to this young lady, whom I'm sure will just hate all the attention paid to her sexy photos. After all, why would she have posted them on facebook if she wanted anyone to see them?
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:07 AM
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81. It says "tagged by others"
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 11:11 AM by Marie26
Meaning, she didn't post this, someone else did. I can't see how this would make fundies stay home, or have any effect at all on the election. Anymore than insulting Chelsea changed the election. IMO embarrassing candidates' kids is just a sort of underhanded thing to do. But whatever.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:23 AM
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93. Oh yes they do...
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #75
101. The level of justification for sleazy tactics boggle the mind
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 12:31 PM by rinsd
"Democrats do not campaign on homophobia."

You do realize Duers are campaigning on excatly that with this issue.

The issue isn't hypcorisy that is a mere cover story.

This is to get out there in the heartland that Corker's daughter like girls and depress turnout amongst conservatives.

The tactic is sleazy enough without being falsely dressed up as righteous.
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SouthernBelle82 Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:50 PM
Response to Reply #75
108. Well you kinda missed
Ford. It's not an issue of his but he is talking about being against gay marriage and invoking God in a recent commercial he has out now even though Jesus Christ never talked about gay people.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:55 PM
Response to Reply #108
111. That's right, Ford is against gay marriage.
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 12:56 PM by Marie26
So I guess it's OK to splash photos of a gay relative of his across the Internet? If not, why not? If not, isn't it totally hypocritical to say it's OK to publicize Corker's family, & not Ford's? If people want to use sleazy tactics, at least be honest about it & say it's a sleazy tactic that Dems will have to use. The false self-righteousness is a bit much.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:12 AM
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85. Not really, we're not the "Party of Moral and Religious Values."
We haven't made a platform from homophobia:

From the RNC 2004 platform--
Civil Rights
Affirmative Access, without preferences or set-asides.
States should not recognize gay marriage from other states.
Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage.
The Patriot Act is used to track terrorist activity.
Homosexuality is incompatible with military service.
Support the advancement of women in the military.


http://www.ontheissues.org/2004_GOP_Platform.htm

I couldn't care less what these two young women are doing, but when you run for office as the Party of Family Values and "being oh-so much closer to God then any other party," you need to practice what you preach, something the GOP is clearly not doing. They're hypocrites and need to be revealed as such...
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:13 AM
Response to Reply #85
86. Corker needs to practice
what he preaches. His daughter? Who says she's a Republican at all?
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SouthernBelle82 Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:51 PM
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109. When she did a commercial for her father
Maybe not a republican but she is still supporting and endorsed his campaign.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:59 PM
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112. Of course, you're right...
We don't know what party affiliation she is, but, the point I was trying to make is that Repubs cannot legislate morality, as much as they may want to. And by constantly harping on Dems as "values challenged," the Repubs are not being very honest about themselves. How can Rebubs like Corker pretend to acknowledge "family values and morality" based on their own definition, while chastising the rest of us as indecent, immoral, and God-less. At the very least, they are catering to the Repub base, who themselves are lacking in these same "values." In short, hypocritical leaders are preaching to hypocritical followers, and the rest of us suffer.

As I said, I don't care what these two young, but adult, women do. It does show that Corker, and the rest of the GOPers, need to concentrate on their own families (based on their own value system) and leave the rest of us alone.

If their own values system doesn't work for them, then why do they assume it will for the rest of us?
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:22 AM
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92. Agrreed n/t
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:56 AM
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76. Yowza...that's hot
:-)

They should have put HER in the Ford commercial!
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:10 AM
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82. You know what's sad?
How fast THIS thread got into three-figure response territory, with so many recs, while news about missing weapons, vote rigging, Iraq, fall off the page because everybody is busy getting their rocks off on a picture of two girls kissing. I agree, the pics are hot. But each and every one of us is sitting at a computer right now and could find a brazillion hotter pictures online with a click of the mouse. Why is this really relevant to anything? In case anyone isn't aware, "kids today" don't have anywhere near the level of sexual hangups as their parent's generation. That is a good thing for all of us, because they'll grow up to be the ones that finally grant EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL, as decreed in our constitution.

Personally, I'm all in favor of more hot girls kissing in public. Hell, I don't even mind hot guys kissing in public. Big fat old balding men kissing, now that makes me go EEEW!!

Can we get back to our regularly scheduled program now? There is a major election in a week!

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SouthernBelle82 Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:52 PM
Response to Reply #82
110. If you don't like talking about it
than go to another thread you do. We should be able to talk about other things going on. This is the General Discussion place after all.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 02:06 PM
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117. blah blah blah freakin' blah
My post had nothing to do with "talking about other things going on," it had to do with the level of attention paid to nothing of significance while issues of vital importance languish. But thanks for your snarky response.

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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:11 AM
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83. My only reaction to this photo:
their lips are tightly closed - they look like they are kissing to titillate the boys and garner attention, not because they are attracted to each other. '

Girls like this probably make it harder for true lesbians in this world.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:21 AM
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90. I know they make it harder for me!
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 11:21 AM by Atman
DOH!...did I type that out loud? Sorry!

:blush:

.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:25 AM
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94. The dems and Ford need to stay out of it and make no comments
Take the high road and let the media spin it out. I have nothing against anyone's kid, no matter how odious the parent may be. As sleazy as those ads in TN are, Corker's kid doesn't deserve to be lambasted because of a photo.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:34 AM
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96. "Hey Julia, call me sometime."
The interracial sex ads meant that the gloves are off.

We don't make the rules, we just play by them.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:05 PM
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97. Hot
nt
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:24 PM
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99. So which one is Corker's daughter?
And what's with the guy to the right? LOL!
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:00 PM
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121. The girl to the right...based on this...
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:02 PM
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113. Is it me or does it look like the poor guy in the picture is trying his hardest
to get in on the fun but the girl on the left is pushing him away?

Somethin' tells me though that he might have been there before.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:28 PM
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115. I think the kids of..should be left alone.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 08:52 PM
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126. I agree....too far. nt
I'm disappointed to see this come to light. Dumb of her to post on facebook, but she's just a college kid.
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 02:46 PM
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119. Publicizing this would probably hurt Ford's campaign...
'cause white guys LOVE lesbians!
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 02:55 PM
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120. Sorry, that's reaching down to their level
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 02:57 PM by zulchzulu
What his daughter does in college at some frat party is none of my business, nor should it be of anyone else. This kind of dirty laundry crap is embarrassing.

Plus, there's nothing wrong with two women kissing in my book anyway. Surely, there must be some video.... :->
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 06:08 PM
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122. Republicans gone wild! Make copies and leave it on the church steps!
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