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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:08 PM
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Who is going to ask Bush-Cheney why they killed 80 Pakistanis yesterday?
What will it mean if they are allowed to get away with these totally senseless murders?
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:10 PM
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1. From the NY Times:
"Some local residents and opposition politicians said there were children in the school, and contended that American planes had participated in the attack. General Sultan said that no children or women had been in the madrasa and that no American or NATO troops had been involved."

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/31/world/asia/31pakistan.html?hp&ex=1162270800&en=fb1c18c77497ab73&ei=5094&partner=homepage

Why doubt this?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:19 PM
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3. Do children have to have been in the school to call it murder?
Does the US have to have dropped the actual bombs? Or is it enough that they pressured Musharref to break the peace he was negotiating and act on their piss poor "intelligence" that al Qaeda bigs were in there? The end result was the same: 80 sleeping human beings were wiped off the face of the earth, probably to help Republicans hold onto Congress.
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:39 PM
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7. Aw, gee. Sorry. I forgot about the innocent victims, as we Democrats
are wont to do. :eyes:

I questioned why it is that you doubt the statement that we were directly involved.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:47 PM
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8. I'm sorry, but your post wasn't clear about what you thought I was doubting.
And I'm still not clear. I don't at all doubt that the US was directly involved in planning the attack. Do you doubt it? (I'm sorry for being obtuse.)
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 02:43 PM
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9. You're not obtuse. I'm grieving, and not controlling myself. I apologize for
Edited on Tue Oct-31-06 02:44 PM by bertha katzenengel
the sarcasm, Burt.

I always question. Not only the times, but the seeming assumption that the U.S. is involved.

I just mean, "WHY doubt?" Not, "The NY Times is beyond doubt."

I know I don't read enough. Your post seemed to me to say that because the administration is a POS warmongering machine, it MUST be involved. Maybe you've read evidence that I don't know of.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:39 PM
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10. I read last night that the Pakistani government said it acted
based on US intelligence. This would explain why the Musharref government would suddenly launch an assault on a sleeping madrassa in the midst of a move to make peace with the tribes in that region of the country. Otherwise, it doesn't make much sense at all.

(By the way, :hi: )
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 10:12 PM
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13. More on US links to the killings
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/01/world/asia/01pakistan.html?hp&ex=1162357200&en=eb2ccb73f2a603a3&ei=5094&partner=homepage


...

In Washington, however, officials said Tuesday that American officials had provided intelligence to the Pakistani government that in part led to the strike on the madrasa. Before the attack on Monday, American and Pakistani officials discussed the intelligence and signed off on the target.

“There was a body of evidence that both sides agreed on,” said an American official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was discussing classified information.

The official said American and Pakistani officials had agreed on the target in part because the madrasa was training militants to carry out attacks in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Liaquat Hussein, an associate of Mr. Zawahri’s who ran the madrasa, was killed in Monday’s airstrike.

The strike is expected to further polarize the political environment in the country. General Musharraf’s alliance with the United States has incensed hard-line Islamists who accuse him of being subservient to the United States.

But apart from Islamic opposition parties, liberal opposition parties also condemned the airstrike.

...
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:15 PM
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2. Have the naval task force exercises in the Persian Gulf resulted
...in any new mayhem for Iran or Iraq?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:51 PM
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4. kick
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:20 PM
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5. They HAD to, killing democratic challengers might land them in jail
killing SUSPECTED terror sympathizers wins republican base votes.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:31 PM
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6. Young boys too
To the Hague. They hate life.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 07:17 PM
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11. These questions need to be asked.
Edited on Tue Oct-31-06 07:19 PM by BurtWorm
Why were these young men killed? And what did the Bush administration know about it?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 07:22 PM
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12. No one will ask anything till after the elections. Then nothing.
The media is useless. The internet is priceless.
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