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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:32 PM
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I smell an Internet Crackdown Coming...
We've got Cheney blathering about how the terrorist are very sophisticated internet users, "they're on there all the time."

We've got Chertoff saying, "We now have a capability of someone to radicalize themselves over the Internet," Chertoff said on the sidelines of a meeting of International Association of the Chiefs of Police. "They can train themselves over the Internet. They never have to necessarily go to the training camp or speak with anybody else and that diffusion of a combination of hatred and technical skills in things like bomb-making is a dangerous combination," Chertoff said. "Those are the kind of terrorists that we may not be able to detect with spies and satellites."
To help gather intelligence on possible home-grown attackers, Chertoff said Homeland Security would deploy 20 field agents this fiscal year into "intelligence fusion centers," where they would work with local police agencies.

By the end of the next fiscal year, he said the department aims to up that to 35 staffers.
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I bet they are going to keep ratcheting up the rhetoric until some horrendous bill gets introduced to really restrict the internet


As one astute blogger already pointed out, Timothy McVeigh didn't use the internet. The US Army taught him everything he needed to know...
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MiniMandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:35 PM
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1. Next target....
Edited on Tue Oct-31-06 01:35 PM by MiniMandaRuth
Fifteen year old myspace users.

COME AND GET ME, CHENEY. I'M NOT AFRAID! :P
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gfnrob Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:40 PM
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4. Alleged 15 yos
These "my space" folks could be the enemy as well. Why do you hate America??
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MiniMandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:44 PM
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7. .....
"ur cr8zy to tink im ur enemi."






(A danger to grammar and spelling, that's all I have to say)
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gfnrob Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:47 PM
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9. Spalling
Spelling is not my forte, however sarcasm may be
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MiniMandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:48 PM
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10. Welcome to DU!
I just say your post count.

A word of advice. If you do ever use sarcasam in GD, use either of these: :eyes: or :sarcasm:
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gfnrob Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:50 PM
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11. thanks
Big Dylan fan, I grew up near Hibbing, Knew Robbie Zimmerman
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MiniMandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:55 PM
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12. Changed my life.
I'm in the age group that frequents rap (13-17) and I usually listen to Dylan on a daily basis. I
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gfnrob Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:59 PM
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13. dylan quote
Let's hope this one applies to this election......."why is it that people who've suffered together have tighter connections then those who are most content..."
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gfnrob Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:37 PM
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2. why???
Why do you hate America?? They need these tools to keep us safe. If your not a bad guy, then you have nothing to fear. Right? It is obvious that this "constitution" thingy is getting in the way of protecting the good old USA. Maybe it's time to do away with the damned thing. Life would be so much easier.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:38 PM
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3. That "astuteness" is assuming that "preventing terrorism" would be
Edited on Tue Oct-31-06 01:39 PM by WinkyDink
Bushco's motivation.
It would not.
Like everything else unconstitutional, laws restricting Internet usage/information/searches would be about power and controlling the dissemination of information to the public, no more, no less.
It's a natural progression from classifying non-secret documents, particularly Presidential papers.

Remember: THEY hate us for our freedoms.
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gfnrob Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:42 PM
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6. How could they hate us?
We have been the shining light of freedom for decades, especially since God asked George to be President.
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gfnrob Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:45 PM
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8. right back at you
A wink, I mean!!!
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:40 PM
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5. "capability of someone to radicalize themselves over the Internet"
Like a correspondence school? Gimme a break Skeletor....
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 02:06 PM
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14. So, they attempt to shut down free discourse
on the internet, well, the internet is only a tool. A very effective tool, but determined people will go deeper underground to dig out the foundation from underneath these snuff queens. They can't shut this movement down now and they know it.
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 02:15 PM
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15. I doubt we would 'notice' a difference
Whereas they would not shut down commonly known areas like MySpace etc., they may, in the name of limiting harmful info, limit the availability of info in general (like somehow find ways to commercially regulate it). This will be done in the name of making us safer but at the same time line the pockets of some already wealthy people.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 02:15 PM
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16. The powers that be are deathly afraid of grassroots activity on the Web.
Edited on Tue Oct-31-06 02:17 PM by Odin2005
Hence thier fear of the Internet. The Corporatists maintain thier power by keeping people isolated and therefore unable to organize effective collective action. They feae the internet for the same reason they fear labor unions and large protests.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 02:18 PM
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17. Wouldn't the terrorists be more inclined to keep physically fit?
What "good" does vegging in front of a computer screen all day do?! :eyes:

Still, I will concede (though I've never looked nor care to) that it would be seemingly easy to find out how to build bombs and other nasty things by looking up the right web pages. But how far could anyone really get? It's all monitored these days.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 02:23 PM
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18. They want to close down your tubes
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 02:25 PM
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19. Their porn industry contributers won't appreciate that.
Their business relies on keeping client confidence, at least in part.

I don't think that insurgency alarmism is going to go much farther than next Tuesday, but we'll see.
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