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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:30 PM
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I'm beginning to think Kerry's "gaffe" was orchestrated by a political genius?
Edited on Tue Oct-31-06 03:33 PM by gully
After all, we Dems get an opportunity to talk about the war right before the election. Observe our collective media response today, the Dems are saying "it was a gaffe however, while we're on the subject" - do Americans want a "new direction" or "more of the same."

:evilgrin:

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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:31 PM
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1. OK. You caught me.
It was me.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:32 PM
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2. Well then
THANKS!
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:33 PM
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3. You're welcome.
I've only just begun....
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:34 PM
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4. Great news!
!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:34 PM
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5. Ya know, that thought has crossed my mind, too, only because he
had a great response available almost immediately. :think: ?
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:35 PM
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6. Hmm, hadn't even
considered that. LOL
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:39 PM
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9. Since this rebut was more about what happened in 2004.....
as a cummalitive with this as being the final straw...I think John Kerry's had this speech in mind for quite sometime, IMO.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:36 PM
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7. I thought the same thing. Too lucky
heh
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:38 PM
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8. It looks like lemon possibly turning to lemonade......thus far, maybe....
But whether it was brilliant and foreplanned, I wouldn't totally say that.

Remember that McCain has not yet weight in since John Kerry more or less told him off. And the Press Looooove McCain, so it ain't a "done deal" yet as to whether this will help Dems more than hurt.

Though I agree that focusing back onto Iraq is very important for all Dems....

Final thought: If it would have been orchestrated, John Kerry would have used the term "Democrats" and "We" when he answered that last question during that press conference instead of the more defensive and narcistic "I".....
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:40 PM
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10. McCain is demanding an apology for a gaffe.
I find that humorous considering who he supported for President.

"The senator has got to understand if he's going to have, he can't have it both ways. He can't take the high horse and then claim the low road." ~ 43 aka "W"
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:41 PM
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11. But McCain's demand was made BEFORE Kerry's conference
.....

So I'm still waiting to see if McCain comes back with something...since Kerry suggested that he should get his apology from Rumsfeld and Cheney (brilliant response, Far as I'm concerned!)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:43 PM
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12. Hopefully (but I doubt it) Kerry embarrassed McCain for even
suggesting Kerry is or was anything but patriotic. I know it's all about politics, but from one vet to another, that went too far.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:44 PM
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13. Yep, that was brilliant. I realize McCain made his statement of faux outrage
before Kerry's admitted gaffe, but Bay Buchanan still demands an apology. They're posturing politically, and they're gonna lose on this one.
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:50 PM
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14. Great set-up for Kerry to mix it up with McCain! SMART, SMART, SMART
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:54 PM
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15. We have the opportunity to talk about the war EVERY DAMN DAY.
We don't need to be doing it in response to a fuck-up by Kerry. We can do it every damn day when more caskets come home.

Bake
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:00 PM
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16. So you think the media would entertain having Democrats on daily
to discuss the war? I don't - I've seen them discussing wedge issues for days.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:23 PM
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17. Kerry's come back has been great. That said...
No I don't think so. Kerry redirected attention back onto the war, which is the perfect response to the Republican attack, but we didn't need a Republican attack in order to focus attention on Iraq. There are ten stories coming out of Iraq daily, Democrats could already jump on the back of any one of them. The big one today was the Iraq government forcing the U.S. to take down check points in parts of the capital controlled by a fiercely anti-American Shiite cleric. That story exposes that we can't even keep the Iraq government on the same page with us, let alone stay the course. That is the story that would have gotten more media play if the Kerry comment had not been picked up.

No strategist would archestrate this Kerry "gaffe" as a ploy. The fall out is too out of control to predict ultimately which side will get to run with it the furthest to stir up their own base to vote. My gut tells me that since the real news was hurting Republicans, and since our base was already fired up, this is too risky a move to have been intentionally planned. It's the type of thing our side might have wanted IF the President was having a good news week in Iraq, not something we would choose to roll the dice on now.

Be that as it may, it is in play now and Kerry is fighting back exactly the way I would want him to under these circumstances. Maybe it will help us, maybe it will hurt us, but a swing in momentum in either direction I think will be fairly contained.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:27 PM
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18. That's a good point. And CNN has said that Dem strategists agree
with you. My post was tongue and cheek, but part of me wonders -
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:37 PM
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19. Sharpton just echoed my thoughts
I feel somewhat vindicated. ;) Not that I always agree with Sharpton, but it's nice that someone agrees.
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