John Kerry would be a formidable Presidential candidate in 08

[Tiggeroshii]

Poll question: John Kerry would be a formidable Presidential candidate in 08

I think he would, personally. Even with the gaffe, he could say a hundred things like that and it wouldn't come close to accounting for the kinds of shit Bush has said in the last 6 years.

[Double T]

1. Kerry had his chance..........

NEXT.

[Phredicles]

2. Sorry - Sen. Kerry is a good man, but '04 should not have been close

enough to steal.

[blm]

6. Why? Was there some magic Democrat who had a different DNC securing

the election process before election day?

Kerry won. And there was no Dem who had control of the newsroom editting rooms, either - there hasn't been in over a decade.

[Phredicles]

9. Right; he won the nomination and proceeded to run a stupefyingly lame

campaign. If he gets nominated again of course I'll vote for him, but I sure won't be excited about it.

[walldude]

19. Dead on the money...

please give us a candidate with no baggage.

[Phredicles]

10. My apologies; you're saying he won the election. Probably, but he was

running against an opponent so patently monstrous he should have been able to amass a tamper-proof margin.

[blm]

11. No such thing - the votes are transferred by percentage.

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[Atman]

16. So was exactly is a "tamper proof" margin against a computer chip...

...coded to always skim or flip enough votes to make the (R) column always win?

Just curious? If we were really ahead by a brazillion votes, the chips just make sure a consistent percentage went the other way. Since it happens secretly, invisibly, inside a computer which cannot be examined or reviewed, how would anyone know? Everyone will do just like what we did last time...scratch their heads and say "Gosh, everybody I know seemed to be voting for Kerry. I guess it was those crazy fundies out in East Bumfuck," and that would be that.

:shrug:

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[Phredicles]

20. The polls heading into the election showed things were close.

If Kerry had been ahead in the polls by, like, 15% or more and Shrub still "won", I don't think even the corporate media would have been able to swallow that.

[Atman]

21. The corporate media swallowed plenty of impossible 10-15% swings

Remember, it was ALL THE POLLING'S FAULT. Suddenly, since Bush, no poll has ever been correct. They always were before. Historically, exit polling especially has been so accurate as to be used to bring charges of fraud in other countries. But suddenly...not so much.

Too convenient for me.

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[Jacobin]

3. Lets see how the polls tighten in the next few days before

raising the banner for Senator Kerry again.

[Tiggeroshii]

4. He's not my choice for president, but...

I don't think he would be a bad candidate. I am rooting for somebody else, myself

[tk2kewl]

5. He is not my choice, but I still think he would be formidable.

I believe he learned valuable lessons in 04.

But my ticket is still Gore/Clark

[patcox2]

7. His idiotic remark is just more reason he's the wrong guy.

Okay, maybe it was a joke about Bush, but if so, it was an awful joke.

He is not what you'd call adroit, this was a clumsy move and no good will come of it, no matter how much those who are stirred by rhetoric enjoyed his later efforts to defend himself.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. There's A Reason He Lost To Dimson By Three Million Votes..

eom

[Kerry fan]

23. Yes - one word.

DIEBOLD.

[phantom power]

8. Ultimately, I think 2004 poisoned his chances. However...

If he ran a campaign with this kind of fight in him, he'd be a real contender:

I’m not going to be lectured by a stuffed suit White House mouthpiece standing behind a podium, or doughy Rush Limbaugh, who no doubt today will take a break from belittling Michael J. Fox’s Parkinson’s disease to start lying about me just as they have lied about Iraq. It disgusts me that these Republican hacks, who have never worn the uniform of our country lie and distort so blatantly and carelessly about those who have.

The people who owe our troops an apology are George W. Bush and Dick Cheney who misled America into war and have given us a Katrina foreign policy that has betrayed our ideals, killed and maimed our soldiers, and widened the terrorist threat instead of defeating it. These Republicans are afraid to debate veterans who live and breathe the concerns of our troops, not the empty slogans of an Administration that sent our brave troops to war without body armor.

Bottom line, these Republicans want to debate straw men because they’re afraid to debate real men. And this time it won’t work because we’re going to stay in their face with the truth and deny them even a sliver of light for their distortions. No Democrat will be bullied by an administration that has a cut and run policy in Afghanistan and a stand still and lose strategy in Iraq.”

http://www.johnkerry.com/news/releases/release.html?id=33

[Hippo_Tron]

13. Option 3: We have an election in a week, so who cares...

[wiley]

14. There was no Kerry gaffe. Also, stupid poll.

[Yukari Yakumo]

15. Definitely no.

Echoing what Phredicles already said, the '04 election should've never been that close. His campaign was weak and he proved totally inept at defending himself (see: Swift Boats). Plus we need someone who hasn't been in Washington for an extended time.

On the plus side, he's a better choice than Hillary.

[LSK]

17. only if he leaves his handlers at home and goes from his gut

[Mass]

18. 06 is in one week - we need to focus on that, please..

[Kerry fan]

22. Kerry was a formidable candidate in 2004.

And, he will be again in 2008.

The ability to steal the election in 2004 did NOT depend on how close the election was. It only took seconds to flip thousands of Kerry votes to Bush, in several states.

I am not real puter literate, but, even I know how easy it is to flip thousands and thousands of votes on computer election machines.