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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 12:57 PM
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Here's the ONLY important point on the other woman ejected from SOTU
Edited on Thu Feb-02-06 12:59 PM by Inland
IF you missed it, the wife of a republican congressman wore a tshirt saying "support the troops" to the SOTU and was escorted out.

She wore the t shirt as the shorthand for agreeing with Bush, as in, supporting the troops means supporting the war which means supporting BUsh. It was read by security as shorthand for agreeing with the war opponents and being anti Bush.

It's an incredible turnaround from the days that the repugs thought they had co opted patriotism to the day when a simple statement of support for troops means you are anti Bush.

Even security is reflexively thinking that supporting the troops is inconsistent with sitting quietly while Bush speaks.

It's incredible.

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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:00 PM
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1. HUH ?
That's quite a stretch of logic... not to mention an amazing display of psychic talent, to be able to read the minds of the Security folks.

She was ejected - as was Sheehan - because they were not dressed 'appropriately' for the occassion.



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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:03 PM
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4. Fashion police strike again.
They should have been dressed like a Stepford Wife.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 04:57 PM
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20. Interesting ...
... you don't have a tenable counter argument to my opinion so you launch an attack on me instead ...

How very Fox News of you.

:eyes:
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 09:47 PM
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22. Defensive aren't you?
I wasn't attacking you, I was agreeing with you.

All during the lead up to the SOTU Tweety was talking about how all the women were wearing red to catch the attention of the Pres. Laura walked in wearing pink. These two weren't in their frilly frocks or red suits, so I guess they were thrown out by the fashion police.

No, I don't have a tenable counter argument to your opinion. I don't think anyone here does. We may have different guesses about what was going on, but none of us knows the minds of the Capitol police. Lighten up and quit attacking those who have your back.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:07 PM
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7. Have to disagree there. There is no
law stating how one must dress for the occasion, and the only rule that would apply is an etiquette rule. The difference in the way the two women were treated, though, makes me believe that they didn't think the congressman's wife was as much of a protestor as Sheehan.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:15 PM
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8. Nah. It just looks like magic.
If Sheehan's crime was a tshirt, she wouldn't have been arrested. Moreover, it was the wife who gave security grief.

Besides, the woman walked in with a coat. Did anyone ask her to cover up?

Its a question of the thought consistent with their actions.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:24 PM
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12. No stretch of logic at all in fact I thought it was set up just for that
Maybe the MSM is letting people make that connection for themselves.
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:01 PM
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2. They read it as anti-Bush? I haven't heard that.
Reminds me of these ribbons, though:
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:28 PM
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15. I have a bumper sticker that says that.
Support Our Troops, Bring Them Home.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:03 PM
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3. I heard that she was the one who found out recovering
troops were being charged for their meals at one of the army medical centers. She complained to her congressman husband and they got it changed. Good for her for doing something really practical to support the troops.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:05 PM
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6. She's responsible for other things, too.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:23 PM
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11. Yes, it sounds like Mrs. Young is doing good work.
Does her work carry over to supporting them after they are discharged? I hope so. They need all the support they can get.

Cindy supports all the troops and Mrs. Young supports the injured ones. They are both doing good work. Mrs. Young has clout from her husband's position and Cindy only has clout from our grass roots support. Mrs. Young is respected by Republicans, Cindy is threatened by them. To those near Cindy, please keep her safe from the rabid right wing.

My guess is that Bush* wanted Cindy thrown out. He didn't want to have to look at her in the audience. The press was announcing she would be there, so he had to know. Security was probably told to get her out of there. They didn't know what she looked like, so they threw out anyone that could have been her. Did Mrs. Young get to go back in? Cindy was detained until the event was over so she couldn't have gone back.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:29 PM
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17. Bush is a delicate flower of a man
and I'm sure even having the Democrats there was hard enough for him. With Cindy there he might have wet his panties.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 09:55 PM
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23. LMAO that would have been a joy to see.
I hadn't imagined that, I had just imagined him seeing her in the audience, getting flustered and stopping his speech to have her thrown out. Wouldn't that have been polarizing? Free Speech vs. Respect for the President.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:04 PM
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5. here's what i took from it:
Edited on Thu Feb-02-06 01:05 PM by maxsolomon
they are so concerned over controlling the message that they will remove ANYONE who might express ANY OPINION WHATSOEVER. that is likely the instruction that security was given. it has the appearance of evenhandedness, but its effect is to crush all opinions but the administrations. control control control. only the spokeman in chief mentions the war.

if the t-shirt had said "the sky is blue", they would have been removed. only dark suits, white shirts & boring ties allowed. nothing can mar the tableau of whiteness.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:17 PM
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9. No, because acclamation is what the SOTU is all about.
It's a nuremberg moment. Everybody has the right, and the obligation, to agree expressly.
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:21 PM
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10. here's what I took from it:
they knew they were probably going to eject cindy, so they convinced the other woman to be a patsy and wear a t-shirt so they could eject her also.

fake alito confirmation tears
fake SOTU ejection
fake president
fake usa
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:26 PM
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14. You mean, in any way equate Sheehan with a repub supporter?
Un fricken likely.

Besides, They wouldn't have put her in a "support the troops" shirtThey would have put her in a support the repubican party shirt. Or anything else.

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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:30 PM
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18. NO...in any way eject Cindy...
then, to cover their asses and make them appear "unbiased" (to the unthinking sheeple anyway) eject one of their own.

so damn obvious, i don't know why it would be hard to understand.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:59 PM
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19. what was security told?
Edited on Thu Feb-02-06 02:00 PM by maxsolomon
that cindy was coming & haul her ass out? then go get the plant in the GOP section?

i think its more "take out ANYONE wearing a shirt with words on it. if its a lib, arrest her & keep her away until the speech is over. "
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 06:13 PM
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21. Why would they want to look unbiased?
You're thinking like a democrat appealing to democrats. In the real world, the point is to smear Sheehan, not look like they are enforcing a nonpartisan DRESS CODE.

Besides, they could have asked the congressman's wife to put the coat back on, the coat she got through security with, if they wanted to look like they were enforcing a dress code. The only explanation consistent with their acts is that they thought she was a disruptor because she has a support the troops tshirt.



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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:26 PM
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13. When I first heard about it that was the first thing I thought
they knew Cindy was going so they set this up.

A Congressman's wife shows up (he is in a suit of course) in a long sleeve t-shirt? She didn't have a pin that said the same thing?
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:28 PM
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16. Whoa
could you go over that one more time? I lost you.
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 10:03 PM
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24. Actually...
...I heard that the woman *had* been critical of Bush. She supports the soldiers 100% & visits them in hospitals. She doesn't think Bush is doing enough to help them (which he isn't). She is for the war but wants the soldiers to get more of what they need. So I have a theory that they did this to keep her in line. Disgusting, isn't it? They even do this to their own people.

Tammy
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