FireDogLake On Hadley & Missing Emails

[Me.]

Let's See...Who Was It that Thought He'd Be Indicted?

Oh yeah, it was Stephen Hadley.

“I've been going over and over the Libby motion filings in my brain since my first pass on everything last night. And Hadley's name keeps popping into my thoughts. Just why was Mr. Hadley so worried about being indicted? Could it have anything to do with the improperly archived e-mails from the offices of the Vice President and Executive Office of President?

Pure speculation on my part. But it does make one wonder...Hadley was, after all, involved on one end of the Rove/Hadley e-mail that was missing for so long. And I wanted to point out a great catch from Jeff in the comments on which officials might have been the blabbers with Dickerson on the Preznit's trip to Africa:As for Dickerson, it's unclear where Fitzgerald is getting his information, but note that he says they understand this, which suggests they didn't get the info directly from Dickerson's testimony. But here's what Dickerson, who was on Bush's Africa trip, wrote on October 31 2005:

More astonishingly, we learn from the Fitzgerald indictment that Ari Fleischer knew about Plame and didn't tell anyone at all. He walked reporters, including me, up to the fact, suggesting they look into who sent Wilson, but never used her name or talked about her position.

And here's Howard Fineman from last summer:

“on a long Bush trip to Africa, Fleischer and Bartlett prompted clusters of reporters to look into the bureaucratic origins of the Wilson trip. So pretty obviously the government officials are Bartlett and Fleischer, though that still raises the question of how the special prosecutor understands that plural government officials talked with Dickerson, and why they understand it rather than being aware of it, as they are with regard to knowledge of the other reporters' knowledge. Does this come from Bartlett's testimony? I've thought that Bartlett was a likely suspect as Pincus' July 12 source, who we know has identified himself to Fitzgerald.” Cont…

http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/

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1. OK ok let me get this straight.

Oh yeah, it was Stephen Hadley.

“I've been going over and over the Libby motion filings in my brain since my first pass on everything last night. And Hadley's name keeps popping into my thoughts. Just why was Mr. Hadley so worried about being indicted? Could it have anything to do with the improperly archived e-mails from the offices of the Vice President and Executive Office of President?


Pure speculation on my part. But it does make one wonder...Hadley was, after all, involved on one end of the Rove/Hadley e-mail that was missing for so long.

So if I read this right, firedoglake is saying that the missing emails may part of that the cover up by Rove/Luskin in regards to the phone call involving Matthew Cooper from Time that Rover almost and may still be indicted over. Also didn't Rove say that after he got off the phone with Cooper that he went and talked to Hadley?

Picture this.." Hey Hadley I just executed operation out Plame via Cooper, heh heh heh so do you think our plan is gonna work?"

Interesting my head is swirling right now. Unless I have completely missed the boat on this.


Also find it interesting the Ari's name is coming up again.

I have always had money on Ari as a good source for Fitz during his investigation. Remember Ari was involved with this as far as being at certain meetings, and then he up and suddenly retires - WTF

[samhsarah]

12. Good call on Ari.

I think you might be right about that:wtf:

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14. I just have a feeling on him, also my gut tells me he is not cut from

the same cloth as the other crooks in the group but I could be wrong.

[Me.]

15. I Think He May Be Smarter Than Some Of The Others

He Certainly knew when to cut and run. As for the rest of it, personally, I thought he was a snot at the podium and involved, up to his bald pate, in the {Lame affair. Too many stories about him trying to lead reporters down the garden path.

[Me.]

2. Update #2 - Graymail

"Tom Maguire pretends not to understand, but Scooter Libby's demand for information about Valerie Plame's work for the CIA is of a piece with his demand for copies of the Presidential Daily Briefs: graymail, pure and simple. The idea is to ask for something arguably relevant to the defense which the government can't allow to appear in open court for national-security reasons, hoping to force a dismissal.

The putative justification for Libby's demand -- that the documents would prove how busy Libby was, thus excusing his lapses of memory before the grand jury -- is transparently bogus. Libby isn't accused of forgetting, but of making up an elaborate confabulation to cover his tracks.

In this case, of course, "the government" and "the prosecution" aren't identical. GWB's minions have every incentive to help Libby get off, and if they can do so on the plea of "national security," so much the better, from their viewpoint.

Naturally, Fitzgerald is going to try to use the anti-graymail provisions of the Classified Information Procedures Act to stymie Libby's lawyers. Expect delay. But Fitzgerald's case is clear: since Libby is charged with lying rather than with espionage, material that would have been relevant to an espionage case isn't relevant to the case actually before the court.
http://www.samefacts.com/archives/valerie_plame_/2006/02/graymail_and_missing_emails.php


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3. Man I would hate play poker against Fitz - he is pretty shrewd when

it comes to keeping his cards close to his chest.

[Wilms]

4. kick

[Me.]

5. Thanks

I'd like to see this article get some traction

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6. Ok - what are your thought about my thoughts on post #1?

kick

[Me.]

8. It's True He Talked To Hadley

What I don't know is if he emailed Hadley about it. My hesitation on that point is because Rove went to great lengths to keep that call (s) secret, going so far as to have Ralston keep it out of the official logs. So, he may have emailed Hadley but we don't know. My thoughts tend towards thinking there may have been strategy emails between the conspirators(Libby, Cheney etc.) which Hadley received and which subsequently were deleted. This would make the situation even more tense, possibly actually putting Cheney in the frame. But this is speculation on my part.

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13. thanks for the refresher on that - so it is possible on the email thing -

but not a definite - cool.

[H2O Man]

7. One senses that

things may be coming to a head soon. Very soon.

I remember around the time that the 7-25-05 Time article, "The Rove Problem" noted on pages 27-8 that, "According to sources close to the investigation, Fitzgerald seemed most interested in whether officials who stayed at the White House while the President was in Africa also had the memo that week, when the first known calls to reporters took place. Details of the memo, if not the memo itself, may have been shared with one or more White House officials before Wilson's article appeared. Rove and I. Lewis (Scooter) Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, have told prosecutors they had never seen the document, according to sources familiar with their statements. But Rove had learned Plame's identity from someone: a source who has been briefed on Rove's account says Novak called Rove the next day..."

I remember saying at the time that this would be important in the future, though not necessarily in the way that it appeared at that time.

[myrna minx]

9. This is getting interesting.

:kick: & R.

[emulatorloo]

10. kick n/t

[Wordie]

11. K&R