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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 08:24 AM
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Pat Buchanan: Bush running out of alibis
Even though I disagree with Buchanan on almost every single issue, I think we can all agree on this - Bush has to go! Here's a little snippet:

"Abroad, our nation is committed to a historic long-term goal. We seek the end of tyranny in our world," said Bush. "Some dismiss that goal as misguided idealism. In reality, the future security of America depends upon it."

Intending no disrespect, this is noble-sounding nonsense. Our security rests on U.S. power and will, and not on whether Zimbabwe, Sudan, Syria, Cuba or even China is ruled by tyrants. Our forefathers lived secure in a world of tyrannies by staying out of wars that were none of America's business. As for "the end of tyranny in our world," Mr. President, sorry, that doesn't come in "our world." That comes in the next.

"By allowing radical Islam to work its will, by leaving an assaulted world to fend for itself, we would signal to all that we no longer believe in our own ideals or even in our own courage," said Bush.

But what has done more to radicalize Islam than our invasion of Iraq? Who has done more to empower Islamic radicals than Bush with his clamor for elections across a region radicalized by our own policies? It is one thing to believe in ideals, another to be the prisoner of some democratist ideology.
- see link for rest of article

The only thing I would have left out was the 'intending no disrespect' part. Fuck that, this president lost all respect he deserved as a politician when he stole the '00 election. Since then, his presidency has been one of lies, deceit, intrigue, and manipulation. But other than that, Pat's article is dead on.

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=12168
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 08:33 AM
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1. I bet the "no disrespect" part is to fend off standard BFEE retaliation
against those who publicly dis them. Tugging of forelocks, or saying "By your leave, my liege" is a little too 17th century. Pat Buchanan has been critical of Bush's actions in Iraq for a long time, but he makes sure to couch it right, so that he can continue to, for example, fly in small planes.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 08:56 AM
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9. Yeah, and besides, Pat doesn't have a forelock.
Maybe he could tug his fetlock.

:)
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 09:42 AM
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18. LOL! He is forelock-challenged, isn't he?
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:28 AM
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23. At this point, a comment about Joe Biden might be in order, but
I really don't have the heart to criticize Biden's head because it just looks too much like the heads of the dollies that were so dear to me in my early childhood... you know, with the little hair plugs...
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 08:35 AM
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2. He's been veering off the right wing talking points lately. On the
Edited on Fri Feb-03-06 08:58 AM by Chimichurri
McGlauglin (sp)Group this past Sunday, he said Hamas was voted in because the Palestinians have had all their rights removed along with their land. Something I never thought I'd hear him say - ever. I don't think Bush and his AIPAC supporters appreciated that from Pat - but he's right then and spot on in this article.

What I don't get is how sometimes he's spot on while other times he abandons this ability to think and completely becomes a staunch apologist for Bush and his enablers. It's very strange.

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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 08:43 AM
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5. Make no mistake, he's a gopher through and through
Very much a right-winger, and a scary one at that. But he's also very much of an "isolationist", doesn't believe that we should be wasting our resources overseas, and he's pretty much against all these free-trade issues.

Hell, you know the old saying - even a broken clock is right twice a day. And on these issues, he's as right as can be. On other issues, he's dead wrong.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 08:59 AM
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11. isolationist? how else can you plunder the treasurey without fake wars
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 08:59 AM
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12. In the end, Pat's a Good Party Man.
That is, he is a faithful servant of his party, the Republican Party.

He likes to pretend he's different, but when the Party calls, he's always, always, ready to help.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 08:35 AM
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3. Catch him tonight on one of the talking bs programs and he'll
have his head so far up *'s tush he'll be breathing for him. He criticizes and then fawns. Pat is a fine example of the damage legacy does.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 08:39 AM
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4. Bush's lies are so many, worthless even than a penny
Edited on Fri Feb-03-06 08:54 AM by sweetheart
The news media who laud, are nothing but a fraud,
Pollution urban sprawl, gangland tagging at the mall,
bush's empire's done us all, oh it hurts to see it fall.
A distopian fallen fate, that we recognize too late,
sold out to so much fear and hate, of a phantom caliphate,
were we meritocracy, in food service would they be,
nowhere near the wheels of state, my dear i hope its not too late.

(metre edit)
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 08:50 AM
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6. Very Nice!
Very true too.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 08:52 AM
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7. But didn't Pat vote for the chimp in the last election?
Edited on Fri Feb-03-06 08:53 AM by DanCa
And is impeachment likely to happen in a Bush packed Supreme Court?
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 09:10 AM
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16. I don't think the SCOTUS has any say in impeachment - do they?
I thought that was handled by the Senate. I could be wrong, however - i don't think we've ever had an impeachment that resulted in a conviction (or whatever you call it). Clinton and Andrew Johnson were both impeached, but neither actually went any further than that, and it's been a long time since my Constitutional Law classes in college.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:28 AM
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24. I am not sure myself. (nt)
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Nomen Tuum Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 08:56 AM
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8. But he hasn't run out of PRE$$TITUTE$ who will lie for him
Amazing how these liars multiply like roaches!
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 08:59 AM
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10. I used to think Pat Buchanan was a voice of the radical right.
Just an illustration of how FAR right the dialog has moved. Scary.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 09:03 AM
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14. Isn't that the truth??! nt
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 09:02 AM
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13. Go Pat!

Pat's no neocon. He's one of a very few conservatives that I think is intellectually honest. I don't always agree with him, but I don't think he says things just for spin.

Hope he's right in this case.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 09:03 AM
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15. Did y'all know that William F. Buckley and Tucker Carlson both
publicly came out against the Iraq war?

True!

Yes, THAT Fucker Tucker Carlson. Yes, THAT William F. Buckley.

But did their OWN PARTY listen to them? Hell no.

Old Buckley, I think he was sincere in his opposition. FWIW.

Tell that to anyone who calls you a "bleeding heart liberal hippie granola-muncher" when you tell them this war is a fraud and a travesty.
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mnmoderatedem Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:15 AM
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20. One difference

at least in Carlson's case, and maybe Buckley too, though I might be wrong, is that in retropsect, they realize going into Iraq was a mistake. They "get it" after the fact. Buchanan has been against it since before it started.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:25 AM
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22. Buckley's opposition was early, Carlson's was after the fact--Fucker
came out and wrote, "I was wrong." Shocking, I know.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 09:32 AM
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17. You know this country is going way downhill
when I agree with Pat Buchanan on something.
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Broke In Jersey Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:06 AM
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19. GO PAT GO!!!!
I have always agreed with PJB when it comes to foreign policy. You have to respect someone that doesn't follow the party line. Not many people have the guts (or stupidity as his distractors would say) to run against his own party (2000).
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:16 AM
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21. Buchanan
And yet Buchanan will ultimately chose to serve Bush, as Bush managed to get the catholic mafia in the Supreme Court. Deficits, international ill will and WWIII don't much matter if the president manages to outlaw abortion and turn us into a theocracy.
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