So, I hear Scooter Libby will not go to trial until 2007?

[BuyingThyme]

We're fucked again.

Link:

http://tinyurl.com/8agkh

[FreedomAngel82]

1. And you heard this from?

[BuyingThyme]

3. Link added above.

[H2O Man]

4. Court today. n/t

[H2O Man]

2. Why?

Why is that a bad thing? It has been agreed upon by both the prosecutor and defense attorneys, and it is due to a few reasons, all of which are the types of things that put trials on hold.

[chaz4jazz]

5. It's bad because

it put the trials and any revelations from it beyond the '06 elections.

[still_one]

7. maybe the democrats should start to do their job

instead of hoping that a scandal will bring the repukes down

In other words isn't it about time they took the inititive?

[BuyingThyme]

8. Yes.

[H2O Man]

10. That would be nice.

And it remains a possibility. If enough people demand that the House begin investigations, it might result in the actions that the Constitution outlines.

[H2O Man]

9. Actually,

while your concerns are based on serious issues, the revelations that are going to come out during the late spring and early summer will be to the democratic party's advantage in the fall.

[BuyingThyme]

11. Not in this case.

Unless Rove or somebody else gets indicted.

[PuraVidaDreamin]

12. a better advantage would have been to

have the trial start late September 06.

There will be so many other issues to cloud/ divert from Libbyk.
It really doesn't seem like any advantage at all.
Hope I'm wrong.

[abluelady]

20. But if Bush/Cheney impeached

he won't be pardoned--that's good.

[G_j]

13. I am more concerned about Judge Walton n/t

[BuyingThyme]

15. Do tell...

[G_j]

21. Walton, Sibel Edmonds, Hatfill

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0601/S00177.htm

Sibel Edmonds Proof "War On Terror" Is A Lie
Monday, 23 January 2006, 10:41 am
Column: W. David Jenkins III

Sibel Edmonds is proof that the “War on Terror” is a Lie
By W. David Jenkins III

There are simply too many dots! I’m not kidding around here. I’ve been through a carton of marking pens and a case and a half of extra strength Excedrin following the trail from the Sibel Edmonds case to Plame to Libby to the NSA to the Whistleblowers Coalition to Turkey to Hastert to Abramoff to the White House and back again. This is not an exercise equivalent to playing “six degrees of Kevin Bacon” but a monstrous series of lines and dots that would produce a flow chart bigger than Rush Limbaugh’s mouth.

Speaking of Limbaugh, his recent slam of Ms. Edmonds and fellow whistleblower, Russell Tice, prompted me to congratulate Sibel the last time we talked. “They must be worried if they’re calling out the right wing radio mouths,” I told her. However, Rove and Co. may want folks like Rush to shut up about Edmonds because the more people hear about her case, the more trouble it invites for this most corrupt administration. Besides, they’ve spent the last few years imposing gag orders on Edmonds out of fear of what she knows.

And now, true to their sleazy ways of doing “business as usual” as Edmonds calls it, the Bush Cabal is going to add insult to Edmonds ’ injury. They’re going to poke her in the eye with “Scooter” Libby’s get of jail free card. Allow me to introduce, as well as concentrate on, Judge Reggie Walton.

Walton is the judge who will not only be presiding over the Libby case, but he has also been “randomly assigned” to Edmonds’ Federal Tort Claim after having upheld her ridiculous gag order imposed by former attorney general, John Ashcroft. I call the gag order ridiculous because technically Edmonds ’ driver’s license, birth certificate and any potential job applications she might file can be considered a “state secret” under the provisions set. As I’ve said many times before, somebody is very worried about what Edmonds wants to talk about.

..more..
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from DUer Pheobe (sp?)

http://www.dailypress.com/news/nationworld/bal-te.hatfill30mar30,0,3380543.story

Judge postpones Hatfill's lawsuit -March 30, 2004

snip


WASHINGTON - Based in part on secret information provided by the FBI, a federal judge yesterday postponed for six months Dr. Steven J. Hatfill's lawsuit against the government for targeting him in its investigation of the anthrax-laced letters that killed five people in 2001.

snip

Walton said he sympathized with the predicament of Hatfill, a former Army biowarfare expert who has been fired from two jobs since coming under scrutiny in the anthrax case.

"The man's a pariah. Nobody's going to hire him," Walton said. (Talk about influencing the case)

snip

Hatfill has adamantly denied having anything to do with the anthrax letters. In August, he filed suit against Attorney General John Ashcroft, who had publicly referred to him as a "person of interest" in the case, other top Justice Department and FBI officials, and their agencies.


then...

http://www.anthraxinvestigation.com/washpost.html

U.S. Yields In Anthrax Lawsuit Standoff
Some Questioning Allowed on Leaks
By Henri E. Cauvin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, April 23, 2005; Page A11

snip

The government, in its written submission to the court and in its statement yesterday, sought to preclude Ashcroft and other individual defendants from being deposed because the judge is still considering their claims of immunity.

But Hatfill's attorney, Thomas G. Connolly, objected, saying the exclusion of such key witnesses would further delay the case. Walton agreed and ordered the process to go forward, with some limitations.

It was unclear from the court filings and statements what led to the government's turnabout. Last year, Walton expressed doubts that authorities were on the verge of solving the case. The government said in a filing this week that the investigation into the anthrax attacks is "active and ongoing." But law enforcement sources, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said there have been no significant new developments.

Hatfill's ability to question government officials could have broader implications. Thwarted until now in his effort to obtain the testimony of federal law enforcement officials, Hatfill had subpoenaed reporters from several news organizations, including The Washington Post, seeking information about their sources for stories concerning Hatfill and the investigation.

and lastly..

looks like Hatfill was suing the New York Times for defamation and the FBI case against him is still ongoing with a new judge having been assigned - a court case resolving Hatfill v. Ashcroft not expected until November 2006.."all discovery must be completed on or before 09/30/06"

http://www.anthraxinvestigation.com/Docket2.html shows latest Docket info.

[BuyingThyme]

29. Thank you.

[H2O Man]

25. I'm not.

If he makes an improper ruling during the trial -- if a trial should occur -- Fitzgerald is certainly very capable of dealing with it. Not likely to be any significant problem. The truth is that Libby is sure to be convicted if he goes to trial, and his attorneys understand that fact.

[stop the bleeding]

26. Yep based on the clearly defined language in the indictment - pretty

much an open and shut case. Fitz has them by the throat. That is why Libby made these last ditch pre-trial efforts that in-inadvertently spilled the beans on the Veep's and Oval office email debacle. Libby and his attorney know they are toast and Fitz is gonna run this trial through by the book and there won't be much more maneuvering for the judge to decide on. I am waiting for when the Judge gives the Jury the final instructions.:popcorn:

[spanone]

6. Then he will be convicted and Pardoned in the same year.

How refreshing.:sarcasm:

[BuyingThyme]

14. Unless we can have a really fast presidential impeachment.

It I guess that's the only way this could work in our favor.

[tanyev]

16. They didn't have to wait that long.

I'm sure November 8th would have been sufficient for their purposes. Maybe a little too transparent, though.

[BuyingThyme]

17. I tend to agree,

but I don't yet know how other cases are being scheduled.

[JNelson6563]

18. Much quicker than Lay & Co.

Just throwing that out there.

[BuyingThyme]

19. Yes, but I'd hope some priority would be given to national security

issues.

Especially in this "post-911 world."

[stop the bleeding]

23. 2 years to wait to goto trial in Federal Court is not a long time in the

Court's eyes, especially when you take into the account of all of the current cases that are already docketed for a specified date, add Defense and Pros. wrangling/reasons and hence you have a Libby trial 11 months into the future. Actually I am kind of surprised that they got this one up so quickly with all of the variables. Also the closer to 2008 the better shot of us getting back the WH. Lastly I feel that the Darth Cheney/Rover indictment drums are beginning to beat based on some of the headlines that have come out in the last few days, so over the next months we will see more and more media coverage.

Peace we'll get these crooks in due time.

[Norquist Nemesis]

22. Not necessarily...

I want to see him be sent off to the slammer along with Rove. But I also want it to be completely fair and un-biased.

We're still in the midst of our former Governor's trial here in Illinois. The prosecution just wrapped up and the defense just started yesterday. It's been a looonnnngg process, but it's all on the up and up. BTW, did I mention Fitzie ran that investigation toward getting George Ryan indicted and charged?

[Dinger]

24. AFTER The 2006 Elections? That Fucking Sucks? Or . . .

is this some sort of bullshit strategy?

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/03/cia.leak.ap/index.html

[Me.]

27. There Could Be An Up Side

If the Dems somehow manage to take back the house or senate. Dream scenario would be they take back the house, and the entire country is so fed up by that time that they start impeachment proceedings which go on at the same time as Libby's trial.

[stop the bleeding]

28. which would lead to victory in 08 for the WH - see post#23 n/t

[H2O Man]

31. Yep.

Things are good. We should be concentrating on today, and nor worrying about the future. We have enough to work with right now, enough to allow us to influence the public perception and to have a significant shift in power come Fall '06.

[Innocent Smith]

30. Typical

Take a look at the Cendant fraud. Happened back in '98 and the trials started last year. Don't be surprised to see that announced 2007 date pushed back too.