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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 11:56 AM
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NEOCONS planning: 2004: Will IRAN be next? Are they DOING IT AGAIN?
Did the NEOCONS orchestrate the election in IRAN in order to overthrow the government this year????

WARNINGS from 2004 about what is GOING ON RIGHT NOW!!!!

Articles from 2004:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6039135/site/newsweek/

""The question is, what then?" NEWSWEEK has learned that the CIA and DIA have war-gamed the likely consequences of a U.S. pre-emptive strike on Iran's nuclear facilities. No one liked the outcome. As an Air Force source tells it, "The war games were unsuccessful at preventing the conflict from escalating."

Instead, administration hawks are pinning their hopes on regime change in Tehran—by covert means, preferably, but by force of arms if necessary. Papers on the idea have circulated inside the administration, mostly labeled "draft" or "working draft" to evade congressional subpoena powers and the Freedom of Information Act. Informed sources say the memos echo the administration's abortive Iraq strategy: oust the existing regime, swiftly install a pro-U.S. government in its place (extracting the new regime's promise to renounce any nuclear ambitions) and get out. "
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CLA410A.html

"The Iranians are about to commit an "offense" far greater than Saddam Hussein's conversion to the euro of Iraq's oil exports in the fall of 2000. Numerous articles have revealed Pentagon planning for operations against Iran as early as 2005. While the publicly stated reasons will be over Iran's nuclear ambitions, there are unspoken macroeconomic drivers explaining the Real Reasons regarding the 2nd stage of petrodollar warfare - Iran's upcoming euro-based oil Bourse.
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2005 - Iran holds an election and guess what? A theocratic regieme is elected. How convenient....
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/16/AR2005061601056.html

Bush Denounces Iran's Election
President Vows to Stand by Citizenry in Struggle for Freedom

By Robin Wright and Michael A. Fletcher
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, June 17, 2005; Page A18

On the eve of Iran's presidential election, President Bush yesterday denounced Tehran's theocracy for manipulating the vote by eliminating candidates and ignoring the "basic requirements" of democracy. Whatever the election's outcome, power will continue to be held by "an unelected few" who are out of step with political changes sweeping the rest of the region, Bush said in a statement released by the White House.

(cut)

Addressing the Iranian people, Bush added: "As you stand for your own liberty, the people of America stand with you." (cut)
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SOUND FAMILIAR?
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Bush in February 2003 before Iraq invasion:

"If we must use force, the United States and our coalition stand ready to help the citizens of a liberated Iraq. "
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I remember reading here in 2004 that Iran would be next.

They are orchestrating it now - they want to keep the defense dollars coming, more pork, more corruption, more greed, more death and more dollars for Bush and his CRONIES.

All right in front of our eyes.
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 12:00 PM
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1. According to Scott Ritter, we are already at war with Iran.
He's got a speech (or at least he did) at traprockpeace.org that explains it all.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 12:05 PM
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3. Thanks! Link to transcript
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 12:01 PM
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2. They sure as hell are trying. Are only DU'er hip to the game?
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 12:07 PM
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4. They are DOING...
How do we expose this OUTSIDE of DU circles? OUTSIDE of the fringe (yes, fringe) of political discourse?
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 12:09 PM
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5. I think they are going to do something
And I fear the chain of reactions we will set into motion.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 12:13 PM
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6. We did such a good job with Iraq, I guess we are going to keep
Edited on Fri Feb-03-06 12:16 PM by movonne
going...and this will not be good. Read where this could make oil prices go up $250.00+ a barrel
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 12:15 PM
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7. That would not surprise me at all
And the way that the provocative comments made by the guy in power are being used as an excuse to go to war against them - I just have to wonder how much the US/CIA/whoever had to do with that.


The US has been gaming for a war there for years.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 12:17 PM
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8. "We should join now — right now - in opening new talks with Iran"
This is serious folks. Clark thinks we are drifting toward war but that there still is time to stop it.

"We should join now — right now - in opening new talks with Iran, in which we ourselves participate, before pressing for UN action or moving toward the military option. No one should be mistaken: there is a military option.

We can strike hard enough to set back Iran's nuclear quest by many years, and take out much of their military capacity in the process. And we can at the same time protect most of the oil flow from Iran and deny their capacity to block transit through the Straits of Hormuz. But we also must recognize the possible consequences of this action: an embittered, vengeful Iran, seeking further destabilization of the region. Far better to pursue dialogue now, whatever the precedents, and save the military option for truly last resort. Understand: unlike others you may hear, I know when and how to determine our course with Iran."

Wes Clark
The Real State of the Union Address
January 30, 2006
http://securingamerica.com/node/560



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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 01:15 PM
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9. Here is the plan - sounds like another cakewalk
"Bush has no intention of occupying Iran. Rather, the goal is to destroy major weapons-sites, destabilize the regime, and occupy a sliver of land on the Iraqi border that contains 90% of Iran’s oil wealth."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=307657&mesg_id=307657
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 04:51 PM
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10. kick
:kick:
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