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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:11 AM
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A friend just aske if there's a "Patriot Act for Dummys" site?
I was telling her about the amendment that owuld authorize a "Uniformed Secret Service Police", and sent her a copy of it. She asked if there was some site that had a summary of the authorizations in the current Patriot Act. One that explains in understandable terms, what the Patriot Act allows out Gov't to do.

Does anyone know of any site like that?
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:14 AM
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1. try this:
Edited on Sat Feb-04-06 12:15 AM by niyad
http://www.answers.com/topic/patriot-act

I googled it as
patriot act in brief
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SillyGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:15 AM
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2. I don't but I'm kicking because I would like to know, too.
:kick:
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rickrok66 Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:42 AM
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3. Check out ACLU.org
There are some downloads on the Patriot Act in the "Action Center". I am sure if you send them an email or call your local office, they would either send you information or point you in the right direction.

Good luck in your search,
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SillyGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:50 AM
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5. Thank you much for that, rickrok66, and welcome to DU!
:toast:
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MatrixEscape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:48 AM
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4. There HAS to be one!
Edited on Sat Feb-04-06 12:50 AM by MatrixEscape
That would be the version that Emperor Boosh would need in his briefing. I imagine it has stickers and nice crayon coloring sections.

Oh wait, that would be a book on par with My Pet Goat. Sorry, you wanted a site.

Gee, this sounds like a lampoon marketing opportunity though.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:56 AM
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6. It also ties in with the 14 signs of fascism, particularly
#12
Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

http://www.veteransforpeace.org/The_14_characteristics_030303.htm

The 14 characteristics are:

Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottoes, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.


Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.


Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.


Supremacy of the Military
Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.


Rampant Sexism
The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.


Controlled Mass Media
Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.


Obsession with National Security
Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.


Religion and Government are Intertwined
Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.


Corporate Power is Protected
The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.


Labor Power is Suppressed
Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .


Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.


Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.


Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.


Fraudulent Elections
Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.


Who would have ever believed this would happen here?

Good luck helping with your friend's education.

In peace and hope,
V
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 01:40 AM
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8. Now, check out this page
It not only covers the 14 points, it gives links to examples of what he is doing now to bring it all about. Current examples that will help others to see how these are actually playing out right now in our country.


http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm
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Marleyb Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 01:21 AM
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7. This article is a good place to start...
Unfathomed Dangers in PATRIOT Act Reauthorization
http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=8434
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 05:18 AM
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9. Send her a link to the full text version of 1984
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Marleyb Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:05 PM
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10. MP3s of Gore
will give your friend a great summary of constitutional abuses of the first patriot act. These are really great...from Gore's speech on the patriot act Nov 9,2003

http://www.radio4all.net/pub/archive/07.12.04/benfrank101@yahoo.com/1124-1-20040616-2gore-unwelcome_surprises.mp3
http://www.radio4all.net/pub/archive/07.12.04/benfrank101@yahoo.com/1124-1-20040616-3gore-challenges-bushlogic.mp3
http://www.radio4all.net/pub/archive/07.12.04/benfrank101@yahoo.com/1124-1-20040616-1gore-govt_spying.mp3
http://www.radio4all.net/pub/archive/07.12.04/benfrank101@yahoo.com/1124-1-20040616-4gore-big_brother.mp3
http://www.radio4all.net/pub/archive/07.12.04/benfrank101@yahoo.com/1124-1-20040616-5gore-how_dare_they.mp3
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