********Superbowl security question********

[AGENDA21]

Alpha Protection Group will provide security for superbowl,who are they???

The league has replaced CSC with three smaller firms: S.A.F.E. Management and Guardian Corporation, both out of Detroit, and the North Carolina-based Alpha Protection Group. But they don't have the manpower of CSC, which manages 19 of the NFL's 32 stadiums, and have had to subcontract out to other security firms.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/football/13726487.htm

Alpha Protection Group is the only one which doesnt have a website...This is my only concern for tomorrow.

Surely they exist,NFL wouldnt have give them a contract of sort otherwise.

[mirandapriestly]

1. Oh, yes, I read about that.

Why would they quit the old security team? I wonder if these guys are mercenaries or something, OR maybe they are "look the other way" types. It doesn't make a lot of sense to change security at this time, with all the terrorist fear (fake though it is).

[Double T]

2. Probably a division of Halliburton....

using illegal aliens for security personnel.

[AGENDA21]

3. How do we get further info on them

beyond there name?

[Jeanette in FL]

8. Been trying for two days

Dead ends. Tried looking up occupational licenses etc. For something as big as this, it is hard to fathom as to why they would drop a known company that has provided security for 29 years to go with 3 lesser knowns that has never done something like this. Scapegoats???

Also came across something interesting as well, the owner of the stadium WILLIAM CLAY FORD SR. is a Skull and Bones man, year 1942. Just putting some dots out there. K & R'd.

[converted_democrat]

9. Do you know where the company is from, or where its "home" is? n/t

[AGENDA21]

11. North Carolina-based Alpha Protection Group

Thats in the article...thats all i know.

[bananas]

22. "Alpha handled security for the G-8 Summit in Scotland last summer"

is in the article, so they've been in business at least six months.

[converted_democrat]

50. Isn't the same summit that the Britian Train Bombings occured at? n/t

[AGENDA21]

51. Yes thats right....

[rucky]

78. They're doing a "heckova job." n/t

[threadkillaz]

106. No mention of Alpha on G8 Local Security Information

http://www.g8.gov.uk/servlet/Front?pagename=OpenMarket/Xcelerate/ShowPage&c=Page&cid=1100186246454


What scale and type of security was there?

More than twenty Heads of State and Government, including H.M. The Queen, visited Gleneagles Hotel the week of the Summit. The wives of some of the Principals also visited nearby Glamis Castle in Angus. Providing them with a safe, yet discreetly secure, environment at both Venues was obviously paramount. At Gleneagles Hotel, an outer cordon extending over 5 miles, constructed using several thousand fencing panels, created an island site. A massive search and seal operation created a substantial place of safety in which the Leaders, their guests and delegates met. An inner cordon, more than a mile long, was built from Corus concrete and steel barriers, supports and gates around this area. This was the biggest ever deployment of this specialist, counter terrorism, product. At any one time, several hundred Police Officers, patrolled and maintained security within the outer cordon, on foot, in every type of police vehicle imaginable and even on horseback. Specialist officers were deployed in necessarily substantial numbers to support their general patrol colleagues. Many CCTV cameras, including video downlinked from helicopters and an aerial platform, relayed TV quality pictures into purpose built, fully functional, Police Command Centres. An equally impressive logistics and support infrastructure, involving many Tayside Police support staff, sustained the operation throughout. Security arrangements at Glamis Castle mirrored those in place at Gleneagles Hotel.

[converted_democrat]

26. Could this be it??

http://www.alphagroupinternational.com/index.php

[AGENDA21]

27. I dont think they're North Carolina-based.

[converted_democrat]

31. Just because it says in the article that they are NC based does not

necessarily make it true.. I own a business, and I can say it's based on the moon if I wanted to, but there isn't much anyone could do to me for it.. This outfit has a couple of offices in the US, and it has one in FL.. Bushco has a history with Florida companies.. I'm just sayin'... On top of that this company specializes in facility security which is what would be needed at the game.. This group specializes in the same type of security, and their name is Alpha Group..

[converted_democrat]

33. Look at this.. I'd bet this is them.. Look at this "About Us" statement...

http://www.alphagroupinternational.com/aboutus.php

Snip-
Successful international business operations require the development of systems and resources to identify opportunity and manage risk. Alpha Group International (AGI) provides information and services that enhance a corporation’s ability to profitably operate in a global environment, while protecting its employees and physical assets, and complying with complex government regulations.

Snip-
AGI is based in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, and our management staff has prior extensive experience in law enforcement, intelligence, corporate security, and international affairs. Additionally, we maintain a network of correspondents in virtually every US state and in over 40 countries. This network gives us local area knowledge in operational matters and it allows the flexibility of accessing information throughout the world in a timely and cost efficient manner.

Look at this part.. They have contacts in almost every US state- I bet that would include NC...
"Additionally, we maintain a network of correspondents in virtually every US state and in over 40 countries."

[FlemingsGhost]

34. Alpha Group Mangagement team:

Safreed-CIA

Tchalikian-former Treasury agent

Guibord-former high-level Ford (!) executive



Hmmmmmmm ...

[converted_democrat]

39. I really think that's them.... The type of security they specialize in,

the name.. The people that run it.. If I was a betting women, I'd put good money on it..

[AGENDA21]

35. You could be right,what do others think?

Alpha Protection Group

Alpha Group International

2 different names...

[converted_democrat]

40. Posted to the wrong place..n/t

[TahitiNut]

43. Alpha Group CEO is totally GOP contributor

George (G-d, not another one!) seems to live both in North Carolina and Michigan (convenient for economic reasons?). Looks like a junior war profiteer to me -- corrupt as hell if he's supporting Abraham, Bush, Knollenberg and Miller.


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[converted_democrat]

52. Thank you TahitiNut!! n/t

[FlemingsGhost]

28. A Florida company? Uh oh ... that can't be good. (n/t)

Flem.

[AntiFascist]

47. "For the Global Corporation" !!!!

ok, so there's going to be one, big global corporation, eh?! :wtf:

[Fleshdancer]

53. actually called "Alphap Protective Services" and actually based in GA....

Disclaimer: I know nothing about the source I'm citing. I discovered this on a google search literally one minute ago.

http://www.total411.info/


One of the new security firms, called here "Alpha Protection Group," is actually called "Alpha Protective Services." It is actually based in Georgia, not North Carolina. (And SAFE Management is actually a Maryland firm.) This group has an interesting pedigree:
Its CEO is a Republican donor.
It had its license revoked in California when its agent there was caught running scams and flaunting security procedures.
Alpha had trouble getting permission to deploy armed personnel in the state of Georgia before its CEO had the Federal Protective Service, a division of the Department of Homeland Security step in to "adjuticate.".
AAJV, a joint venture of Alpha and another firm, has a presence not only in Washington, but in Las Vegas -- likely due to its black-ops contracts, including one for Nellis Air Force Base's Area 51!
It is very important to note that the Super Bowl is being played on the Canadian border. Canada is still part of the British Commonwealth, answerable to and a puppet state of the Crown and the City of London. The Canadian military has announced that "several Canadian agencies" will be involved in Super Bowl security. (Including NORAD, the joint US-Canada organization which stood down for 9/11.)

More importantly, the Canadian military just this Tuesday just announced a major reorganization of its forces. That means, that like on 9/11, many key military personnel will have been on the job for less than one week! This is also similar to the key changes in command made in the US military just before the warmongers' last attempt at a domestic nuke last August in Charleston, South Carolina...


Which brings us to the point that there is another nuclear drill allegedly scheduled for Charleston this weekend. But there is no indication the scope of the drills are anything like what happend last August. Leak of the new alleged Charleston drill may have been a feint to throw indepentdent researchers, who exposed the Charelston plot before it could unfurl, off the scent.

[converted_democrat]

55. Good find GloriaSmith!!!

This company handled the G-8 summit when the London bombings occurred, no?

edited for my spelling issues...

[Fleshdancer]

56. that's what I read down thread...

I'm trying to find info on the Alpha Protection Services in GA but so far I've been unsuccessful. Have you clicked on the link I provided yet? If not, could you do so and give me your opinion? It lists many more issues with this Superbowl but until I can independently research some of the claims made, I'm reluctant to buy into everything posted on that site.

More from the site:

It is very important to note that the Super Bowl is being played on the Canadian border. Canada is still part of the British Commonwealth, answerable to and a puppet state of the Crown and the City of London. The Canadian military has announced that "several Canadian agencies" will be involved in Super Bowl security. (Including NORAD, the joint US-Canada organization which stood down for 9/11.)

More importantly, the Canadian military just this Tuesday just announced a major reorganization of its forces. That means, that like on 9/11, many key military personnel will have been on the job for less than one week! This is also similar to the key changes in command made in the US military just before the warmongers' last attempt at a domestic nuke last August in Charleston, South Carolina...


Which brings us to the point that there is another nuclear drill allegedly scheduled for Charleston this weekend. But there is no indication the scope of the drills are anything like what happened last August. Leak of the new alleged Charleston drill may have been a feint to throw independent researchers, who exposed the Charelston plot before it could unfurl, off the scent.


Some provisions of the USA PATRIOT Act were set to expire Friday, Feb. 3. They have temporarily been extended while the House and Senate wrangle over whether to slightly restrain or widely expand the Gestapo-like powers. Super Bowl nuke would of course provide the perfect pretext for renewal and expansion.

[aikoaiko]

102. What drills? Didn't even hear about them in Savannah.

Posted by GloriaSmith
Which brings us to the point that there is another nuclear drill allegedly scheduled for Charleston this weekend. But there is no indication the scope of the drills are anything like what happened last August. Leak of the new alleged Charleston drill may have been a feint to throw independent researchers, who exposed the Charelston plot before it could unfurl, off the scent.

Do you have a link regarding the drills? Savannah, in its typical I don;t care attitude, just doesn't seem to care.

[AntiFascist]

58. wow, if Southerners really are the intended targets....

you'd think they would appreciate our efforts here at DU.

[dmr]

97. A tie that might connect them to the Alpha Group

This might be clearly circumstantial, but the statment from your article makes me wonder if there isn't a connection to the two groups:

The Canadian military has announced that "several Canadian agencies" will be involved in Super Bowl security. (Including NORAD, the joint US-Canada organization which stood down for 9/11.)

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:s-DOsp_dB5MJ:www.iaca.net/Training.asp+ALPHA+GROUP+Fort+Lauderdale&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=4

Below is a description of a Criminal Intelligence Analysis class the Alpha Group teaches around the country. There are other classes they teach, including Homeland Security and Terrorism Analysis; you can find them at the above link.

http://www.iaca.net/Training.asp?TID=194
The Elmira Police Department is hosting an intensive 5-day Criminal Intelligence Analysis Course for intelligence officers and crime and intelligence analysts from 05/22/2006 to 05/26/2006. The course will be presented by the Alpha Group Center for Crime and Intelligence Analysis and taught by Warren Sweeney, a thirty-year veteran of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) and former Intelligence Analysis Coordinator for the RCMP Canadian Police College in Ottawa, Ontario (Canada)

This will be a "hands-on" course that takes a “learn-by-doing,” practical approach to training. Students will actually perform tasks associated with intelligence analysis work. Each participant will also receive a copy of The Intelligence Analyst's Sourcebook. Written by Warren Sweeney, this manual explains how to conduct, prepare, and present intelligence to enhance the investigative and decision-making process.

Participants will be taught how to turn data into information; how to distinguish differences between Tactical, Strategic, and Operational Intelligence; how to overcome resistance to the intelligence process, how to establish links between people, organizations, and events; how to chart events, commodity flow, and activities within the criminal organization; how to present intelligence effectively in oral and written reports; how to use the power of the computer to assist the intelligence function; and money laundering secrets and techniques.Text

Of course this could be clearly circumstantial, but it is worth reviewing, I think.

[GrantDem]

71. Did you notice the web designer's link??

For such a big and important security firm with government contracts why would they have such a small firm design their website? Look at the other sites the design has designed.

http://www.goldcoastwebdesign.com/portfolio.php

I get the impression that it is a sham (cover) website.

[spindrifter]

90. Warthog Sharpeners?? Pet Wellness Club??

WTF kind of clients do they have?

[GrantDem]

93. It seems

that the type of clients are pretty "small time" for this design company to have landed a large government security contractor.

[file83]

4. Alpha Protection Group is probably just a subsidiary of Delta Force...

...nothing to see here, move along.

[AntiFascist]

5. Bird with only right wing.....

fly in circle.

:rofl:

(I wanted to post this on another thread, but it got locked.)

[AGENDA21]

6. This is a serious question

Who are these guys? could everyone please K&R this...someone may be able to answer this...This maybe nothing...but right now it dont make to much sense to me!!

[file83]

17. Just kicked you to 5 votes , you're now on Greatest. It is a serious

question, my joke has a little bit of truth in it concerning my suspicions.

[FlemingsGhost]

7. A conveniently "thwarted" attack to bring the nation back in line?

Don't rule it out. One would certainly need some folks working from the inside, to pull it off.

And isn't there a fairly sizeable Muslim population in and around Detroit?

('Scuse me while I adjust my shiny tinfoil hat ...)

[Lefty48197]

41. Correct

The area where Detroit meets Dearborn is said to have the largest concentration of Muslims outside of Mecca.

[TheModernTerrorist]

107. it defenitely does...

it's one of very very few moments of culture shock that I've experienced. When you drive through Dearborn, a lot of the billboards are in Arabic, and I just really didn't know what to expect (I ended up there by accident)


Also, if they plan on using my favorite "Poorest Large City in America" as a place to drum up support, in whatever way possible, I will be very upset.

[Fleshdancer]

44. just imagine the display of patriotism at the 2007 Superbowl! In FL!!!!

Right before the 2008 campaign kicks off. :)

[hvn_nbr_2]

48. To prove that NSA spying is a good thing. n/t

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[Horse with no Name]

16. Second or third time

I have seen such "wisdom" from this person today...:eyes:

[hang a left]

20. good one

[AGENDA21]

15. If you can provide some info on them

then im more than happy for thread to be deleted.....

[The Doctor.]

25. And also a concern...

The OP raises a question worth investigating.

I may personally doubt that anything unusual will happen tomorrow, but the existence of unexplained changes is a definite curiosity.

Who knows, if something does happen, you may have to uproot your entire belief system...

[spindrifter]

13. Blackwater is located in

North Carolina. It would not surprise me if "alpha" is not an offshoot with a changed name, since Blackwater has a bit of a PR problem in some circles. Even though I despise the mercenaries, Blackwater would have the technology and training to run an over-the-top security operation such as they probably need for the game.

[PassingFair]

60. Blackwater has ties to Michigan, too.

It's owned by one of the Amway heirs.

[AntiFascist]

65. Amway is tied to the CNP? n/t

[PassingFair]

70. Erik Prince, founder of Blackwater is Betsy DeVos's brother.

Which makes him Dick (emphasis on DICK) DeVos's brother-in-law:

http://www.mediamouse.org/features/051904betsy.php

[AntiFascist]

80. Here's a good report....

Amway, Republicans & That Old Time Religion

<snip>

To that end, millions of Amway audiotapes, CDs and videos are sold each year. The main message they expound is that success is achieved by emulating the Amway beliefs and values, characterized by political conservatism, disdain for the poor, extreme distrust of government social programs, and adherence to the rules of right-wing Christianity.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0412/S00154.htm

[TheModernTerrorist]

108. did not know that...

...good ol' Billionaire Betsy. :eyes:

[Carni]

66. Devos-- that asshole is running agaist Granholm for governor

What a lovely package (NOT!) :(

[slaveplanet]

68. Blackwater may be located in NC

just the the Delta teams from Bragg.

But it run by Michigan slime.

[Horse with no Name]

14. The thing that is the most troublesome about this

Is that they changed security companies at the World Trade Center just days before 9-11.
Just a troubling coincidence...I hope.

[savemefromdumbya]

18. oh oh!

[fooj]

21. Oh shit...

:scared:

[file83]

23. In all seriousness, the most important question to have answered is:

Are there any "war game" scenarios planned by the Pentagon on Sunday?

Operation Vigilant Guardian was being "played" out on 9/11. Google that.

London also had a "war game" scenario being played out in the subways on the day of their attack. Most people haven't heard about that. Google that.

So, so any military personel know about a war game going on in or around Detroit, Michigan tomorrow? If so, what is the "scenario"? If the previous two examples are any indicator, then if there is an attack, the "scenario" of the war game will match exactly the parameters of the attack.

[CornField]

24. The Canadians are chatting

While Detroit is under a weekend winter storm watch, Canada’s NORAD Region (`CANR) will be providing the security to defend Detroit’s football stadium against the eventuality of aerial attacks. Images from past presentations show the same CANR war gamers played very realistic war games before 9/11.

In June 2001 NORAD war games, they developed maneuvers needed to hijack a passenger jet in Alaska, overfly Canada and bypass defences of the U.S. Air Force to `decapitate’ the Capitol building in Washington, D.C.

If anything (Heaven forbid) were to go wrong with Super Bowl Sunday’s war games, military commanders would need authorization from Canada’s outgoing 21st Prime Minister, the Honourable Paul Martin, to shoot down whatever weapons are chosen–a fleet of commuter jets or WMD-laden drones, for example. Martin will not officially be replaced by Prime Minister-designate Stephen Harper until the following day.

The "AV 01 Fighter Flow" image taken from the same presentation, suggests CANR military commanders were instructed to switch the Canadian Forces' red-team attack and blue-team defense roles right in the middle of a war game.

CANR war game scenarios are developed by Ottawa-based Lansdowne Technologies, the Canada Steamship Lines affiliate, which Martin bought using bank loans arranged by Maurice Strong, but which he forgot he owned in the run up to 9/11.

Any Lansdowne instruction to CANR to switch red-team attack roles into blue-team stand down roles during war games, could explain how 'al-Qaeda' pilots hit their 9/11 targets, and without due diligence against potential sabotage by terrorists could also pose a threat level for war game projects of the future.

Martin's life long mentor, Maurice Strong, proposed a scenario about 15 years ago to save the planet by destroying the 'rich, industrialized countries', and, in 1997, Strong allegedly accepted a $1 million bribe from the UN Oil-for-Food-funded Ba'athist government of Sadddam Hussein in Iraq.

With virtual war rooms and 'eye-in-the-sky' satellite surveillance, CANR war gamers can track the smallest of targets, even as small as the person of Condoleezza Rice, scheduled to attend Super Bowl XL on Sunday, February 5th.



On January 26th, as CANR war gamers prepared defences for Super Bowl Sunday, MDA - a Lansdowne sub-contractor - was developing "surveillance satellite to derive actionable information on objects moving on the ground."

http://www.mdacorporation.com/news/pr/pr2006012601.html

[sleipnir]

122. Interesting.

Very interesting. Thanks.

[dogday]

30. Read this post

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=312513&mesg_id=312513

[AntiFascist]

42. I find it extremely ironic that a war game would have...

actually aided in the execution of 9/11. It would also be ironic if, while everyone is focused on air defenses over the Canadian boarder, that a weapon might have been smuggled in over the Mexican boarder, possibly for use in the game, as reported at one "whistleblower" website (wm).

[kath]

61. yes, and didn't the WTC security company have ties to one of the Bush

brothers - Marvin maybe??

[SupplyConcerns]

62. I'm posting my fear here

So that if it comes true, I will be able to demonstrate I really did predict the attack. I fear a false-flag terror attack. The more atrocious, the better. Why? Because the more atrocious, the more impossible it will be for TV viewers around the nation to believe the government could have anything to do with it.

Let's just really put on the shiny hats for a moment and imagine some sort of attack that disabled downtown Detriot. Bush & company have demonstrated with New Orleans that they are willing to lose a major American city if it isn't central to the economy, and if it has a large population of "less desirable" citizens. From what I've heard, downtown Detriot is a commercially abandoned mess today.

The legitimacy of the Bush regime is at an all-time low. Such an attack would get people in line, and even allow them too pull their itchy trigger finger on the ever-tempting martial law for a period of time. They wouldn't have to blame the attack on a foreign power such as Iran, but a little bit of public speculation here and there and people will connect the dots ever so wisely, just like they blamed Iraq for 9/11.

That said, of course, in all liklihood nothing will happen tomorrow and this post will simply be forgotten.

[GrantDem]

73. Any idea what firm took over at WTC???

It would be interesting to know if that firm is tied to the SuperBowl firms in any way.

[jbnow]

117. From what I can find

the firm itself changed in 96

But in 2001 there were three changes


http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=world_trade_center

October 1996: Security Firm with Connections to Bush Family Acquires Security Contract for World Trade Center; Possible Security Breach Is Alleged
A security company called Stratesec acquires an $8.3 million contract to help provide security at the World Trade Center. It is one of numerous contractors hired in the upgrade of security at the WTC following the 1993 bombing. Stratesec, which was formerly called Securacom, is responsible for installing the “security-description plan”—the layout of the electronic security system—at the World Trade Center. It has a “completion contract” to provide some of the center's security “up to the day the buildings fell down,” according to Barry McDaniel, its CEO from January 2002.


July 24, 2001: World Trade Center Ownership Changes Hands For the First Time
Private businessman Larry Silverstein's $3.2 billion purchase of the World Trade Center is finalized, giving him de facto ownership with a 99-year lease of the building. It is the only time the WTC has ever changed hands. It was previously owned by the New York Port Authority, a bi-state government agency. After 9/11, Silverstein attempts to get $7 billion in insurance for the 9/11 destruction of the WTC towers. In late 2004, he will be tentatively awarded $2.2 billion, double what insurance companies offered to pay him. A judge also makes a ruling that keeps open the possibility he could eventually receive as much as $6.4 billion.


August 23, 2001: O'Neill Begins Job as Head of Security at the WTC
John O'Neill begins his new job as head of security at the WTC. A friend says to him, “Well, that will be an easy job. They're not going to bomb that place again.” O'Neill replies, “Well actually they've always wanted to finish that job. I think they're going to try again.” On September 10, he moves into his new office on the 34th floor of the North Tower. That night, he tells colleague Jerry Hauer, “We're due for something big. I don't like the way things are lining up in Afghanistan” (a probable reference to the assassination of Afghan leader Ahmed Shah Massoud the day before). O'Neill will be killed in the 9/11 attack.


September 6, 2001: WTC Security Scaled Back in Week and Day Before 9/11 Attack
Security personnel at the WTC are working extra-long shifts because of numerous phone threats. However, on this day bomb-sniffing dogs are abruptly removed. Security further drops right before 9/11. WTC guard Daria Coard says in an interview later on the day of 9/11: “Today was the first day there was not the extra security.” Janitor William Rodriguez later claims that he saw hijacker Mohand Alshehri inside the WTC in June 2001.

[CornField]

19. Try calling the journalist on the article

Many times journalists have additional information within an article which gets cut before it goes to press. This could be the case here. If not, you've given someone who already understands the players an inside tip.

From the research forum, military exercise thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=358&topic_id=2984&mesg_id=2984

voicenews.com - Feb. 3, 2006 - North American Aerospace Defense Command and service members at Selfridge Air National Guard Base spent much of the previous weeks drilling and preparing for the week-long Super Bowl festivities. The 107th Fighter Squadron, and elements of the 127th Wing at Selfridge, were joined by multiple Cessna aircraft, a C-21 Learjet and H-65 Dolphin helicopters, in the skies over southeast Michigan as they drilled and practiced for any contingency. Also involved in the effort are many Canadian aircraft, since NORAD is an umbrella body that can assume command of both U.S. and Canadian military aircraft. CF-18s out of Bagotville, Quebec, a CH-146 Griffin helicopter out of Kingston, Ontario, and E-3 Sentry Airborne Early Warning and Control System aircraft and air refueling tankers were all participating in low-altitude exercises last week.

[AGENDA21]

29. Wouldnt the security info be on the leagues website?

[Flabbergasted]

32. Ok my tinfoil hat is gonna go on as well...

A couple days ago a guy pointed out to me that a radio program he was listening to predicted a terrorist strike on the fifth....I dismissed it at the time but......

[Fleshdancer]

36. "It's only the third time that a northern city has hosted the game"

NPR was talking about how its rare for a city like Detroit to host the Super bowl and at the time I wondered what the mind set was for choosing that city. Then I log on here, read this thread and wonder. Probably nothing but....

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/13788755.htm

Detroit may not have the balmy winter weather of Miami (which hosts the game a year from now) or the caché of L.A., but the Motor City has the 2006 Super Bowl pitting the Pittsburgh Steelers against the Seattle Seahawks -- a reward for opening a new stadium two seasons ago. It's only the third time that a northern city has hosted the game, which generally bounces between the Southeast and the West Coast from year to year. Detroit hosted in 1982 and Minnesota in 1992.

_______

Let's play "what if?" Hypothetically speaking, the Super bowl gets attacked this year. That means that the 2007 Super bowl (in Florida) will be a masterful display of patriotism right before the 2008 campaigning begins. Warms your heart, doesn't it?

[Flabbergasted]

37. Ok this is spooky

They all have experience and have done large events before," Ahlerich said. He pointed out that Alpha handled security for the G-8 Summit in Scotland....

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/columnists/13723694.htm

THIS IS THE SUMMIT WHEN THE BRITAIN TRAIN BOMBINGS OCCURED....

[Horse with no Name]

38. Okay I am getting all tinfoilhattybatty here when I promised myself

I wouldn't over this issue...but this cabal likes "coincidences" and such, makes it easier to feed to the masses.
Do you realize what tomorrow is?
It is the 3rd anniversary of when Colin Powell addressed the UN Security Council to present his case for war. I remember it vividly. My granddaughter was born on this day.
:scared:

[SupplyConcerns]

64. Wow...

CEO is a GOP contributer

As Florida-based as a hijacker's fllight school

Did security at the time of the 7/7 bombings, which have always looked fishy. Hell, it was in the news that the Israeli embassy got a heads-up warning right before they occured.

A useful coincidence date that would motivate "Al Qaeda"

It's been long enough since 9/11 that people are expecting another spectacular attack by now... meaning less blame put on Bush for failing to protect.

Bush administration's legitimacy at an all-time low

The perfect event for a traumatic spectacle

[yurbud]

45. Bush would not kill so many people who voted for him

A terrorist attack on the Superbowl would be like having one on a monster truck pull or a Benny Hinn crusade. The republicans need those goobers alive so they can get enough votes to credibly pretend they won.

[satya]

49. Or he'd declare martial law and there wouldn't be any more elections. nt

[SupplyConcerns]

59. Yes he would. They would die, but their phantom votes would live on

In the memory of Diebold machines everywhere.

[wickerwoman]

98. Because Bush polls so well in Seattle, Detroit and Pittsburgh...

Would it be possible to throw a wet blanket on the hysteria without insulting liberal football fans?

[yurbud]

119. sorry, liberal football fan

[TheModernTerrorist]

109. but honestly

aren't those the most brazen, vocal, public people whom voce his support? It would serve him well to terrify his electorate, because other than the locals in Detroit (whom, btw, HATE Bush whether something happens during Super Bowl or not) that attack would only work on the sheep of this flock...
...unless it scares you that the government can get away with something like this TWICE.
This will be on TV for all to see though, so, just be on the watch. just in case...

[yurbud]

120. scare base, kill opponents--WTC in NYC, anthrax to Dems in Congress...

[Twist_U_Up]

46. Heres one of the Chairman of the security teams

http://www.nsa.gov/honor/honor00028.cfm

on edit: Chiles is this companies founder, a partner of Gaurdian based in whereelse Texas http://www.aspen.mw/about.php

[AGENDA21]

54. Rolling stones

Taking a quick break from their "A Bigger Bang" World Tour rolling stones,they will perform in the "Sprint" Super Bowl XL Halftime Show.....

http://www.superbowl.com/features/entertainment


Thats just weird...

[SupplyConcerns]

67. Why is it wierd?

What would be weird is that the Rolling Stones always said that they would perform together until they dropped dead or couldn't do it any longer. If they all died a sudden death together, it would be quite a strange ending for the band. And, it would meaningfully affect British sympathy, I suppose.

[file83]

81. It's "wierd" because the tour they are on is called "A Bigger Bang"

Get it? Nukes go 'bang' in a 'big' way.

[SupplyConcerns]

87. Oh.

I was thinking too much about it.

[Emit]

57. Here's an Alpha Security in NC

Alpha Security Guard Patrol
Ahoskie, NC

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:E-SRdDauXdwJ:www.partypop.com/Categories/Security_Companies/North_Carolina.htm+North+Carolina+Alpha+security+companies&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1



Also noted here:

Kimberly Carter Lassiter
The Alpha Group, Inc. d/b/a
Alpha Security
P O Box 774
Ahoskie, NC 27910-0000

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:a1zLbvRxXYUJ:www.ncdoj.com/DocumentStreamerClient%3Fdirectory%3DBoardMinutes/%26file%3D02172005-ppsscreening.pdf+Alpha+Security+Guard+Patrol+Ahoskie+NC&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2

But I still don't see an actual website

[katamaran]

104. Ahoskie is just around the corner from Blackhawk

Blackhawk is located in Moyock, NC, about 25 miles from where Alpha is located in Ahoskie, NC. Both are just south of the VA border, where there are a lot of retired military hanging out near the naval base in Norfolk.

[file83]

63. These guys are ALL OVER this security question you brought up...

http://www.total411.info/

Check it out. Some very interesting research they've put together.

[AntiFascist]

103. Much of it seems to be wierd psy ops n/t

[leeroysphitz]

118. Ok, I've been fingering my reynolds brand hat through out this

entire thread thinking of strapping it on nice and tight but I see that they are making references to Area 51 on the total 411 site. That's going a bit too far on the "wild side" for me.
I guess I'm gonna put the shiny hat back in it's drawer for now.

:)

[AntiFascist]

69. Just keep this in mind....

if nothing bad happens tomorrow or in the near future, then it's a Good Thing.

[GrantDem]

74. You are absolutely right.

[satya]

72. Anybody have the picture of the van passing by as London bus bombed?

I'm sure I saw it here on DU.

[converted_democrat]

75. That was a different company, that was Kingstar.....

http://forums.therandirhodesshow.com/lofiversion/index.php/t58765.html

[satya]

96. Thanks, couldn't remember. nt

[HuffleClaw]

76. yes, its damned odd alright.

and we're living about 130km upwind of detroit. eep. our local paper had a story today (saturday) about how our city is prepared to handle 'casualties' in the event of a terrorist attack on the superbowl as part of some security contingency plan. lots of helicopters about lately too. more than usual.

[SillyGoose]

77. Don't forget tomorrow DU will be down around 4 or 5pm and be offline

for a few hours due to new servers being installed. Just mentioning that in case anything does happen.

[SupplyConcerns]

79. If an attack did happen, what would YOU do?

In the years after 9/11, all of the creepy and suspicious coincidences slowly emerged. This is basically having all of those coincidences beforehand, which is why it -feels- so much to me like an attack is happening tomorrow, whether or not one does happen.

If an attack did happen, though, what would we all do? I can't imagine living in a country where everyone was going through the nationalistic mourning process, and uniting against an external enemy while I had such an uneasy feeling about the nature of the attack. If an attack happens tomorrow, it might be enough to drive me out of the country.

Of course, one probably won't.

[HuffleClaw]

85. IF something occurred they'd blame IRAN before the smoke settled

and they'd attack before 24 hours elapsed. the public would be powerless to do a thing. and even though i suspect many would be just PISSED that bush hadn't protected them from TERRA, i also think far too many people would simply follow the crowd blindly demanding vengeance.

on the bright side, you could probably make lots of pocket money selling little flag stickers.

[SupplyConcerns]

88. Pocket money with which to flee to Panama

Ah... the perfect plan!

[SillyGoose]

86. That's a very good question. Honestly, I don't know what I would do.

In the short-term I'd probably stay glued to the tv news and DU. As for the long term, I really don't know. Your post is very thought-provoking in that regard. I agree that nothing is likely to happen tomorrow but I admire all the folks here who bring these topics out in the open for discussion. This is really an amazing group of people.

Welcome to DU! :toast:

[SupplyConcerns]

89. Thanks for the welcome

I think it's funny (though a sign of DUer's great courtesy) that people still welcome me to the boards in their replies. I feel like I've been posting for awhile now, and I've definitely been lurking for as long as I've been posting.

[spuddonna]

100. Well, if it was local, I'd take steps to protect my family...

... but if it was like 9-11, I'd do the same as I did then: get online to talk to my family, and now I'd want to come to DU! And DU is going to be down tomorrow during this time?! ack!!!

[GrantDem]

82. Another twist....

Lynn Swann, republican, is running for Governor of PA. Swann is a former receiver for the Steelers. This would almost definitely ensure a victory for the GOP candidate and pave the way to turn PA red.

[SupplyConcerns]

84. Has to be a coincidence

I don't see how it would be worth it for the government to somehow fix the NFL playoffs to assure certain teams made the Superbowl.

And interesting coincidence, though.

[October]

91. I think Swann was the MVP, too, that year

Scary.

It's bad enough we have two loser senators in PA.

[ScreamingMeemie]

83. No fear. There have been helicopters (black hawks) running nonstop

up and down the water way and over my house for the past 3 days. Security appears pretty darned tight. My cousin in law was down at the NFL Experience yesterday and said he saw quite a few military personnel there. Just enough to make him feel like he was not in America.

[SupplyConcerns]

115. That's probably the point

They quietly switch the security firm, while publicly making a big show about stepped-up security by flying helicopters everywhere.

[ScreamingMeemie]

121. I'm not going to worry about it...

and I live right here. :hi:

[doublethink]

92. Any interesting 'put' options placed on the stock market this week?

Out of the ordinary ones ...... :shrug: Peace.

[AGENDA21]

112. If something did happen who would benefit?

then we can look at the 'put' options.

[Junkdrawer]

94. Well, this would be the most predicted 'terra attack ever...

Link from Post #53:

Tarpley calls for RED SYNTHETIC TERROR ALERT

FEBRUARY 4, 2006 -- In wake of this website's call for a BURNT ORANGE alert for synthetic terror at Super Bowl XL, we received this note from the author of 9/11 Synthetic Terror, Webster Griffin Tarpley.

Tarpley calls for a RED ALERT for synthetic terror in the following terms:
"The intense international intelligence warfare pattern mandates a move to red alert -- the highest vigilance -- for the upcoming superbowl Sunday in the USA and the Turin winter Olympics, and perhaps all the way to the March 20 opening of the Iranian oil bourse, which spells the beginning of the end for six decades of world dollar hegemony.

...

http://www.total411.info/

[Marie26]

95. No such group in NC

I did a quick check at the Sec. of State's site, which has a list of all registered corporations in North Carolina. Even if a corporation is based in another state, it still needs to register if it's going to do business in NC. There is no such company in NC. The closest name listed is called "Alpha Protective Services, Inc.," but that company seems pretty small to be handling the Super Bowl & is based in Georgia. http://www.alphaprotective.com/ Also, it's not just that the "Alpha Protection Group" doesn't have a web-site, there's no mention of them at all anywhere (news stories, etc). Yet supposedly it was big enough to handle the G8 summit. Odd. I don't think that can be the real name. The reporter must have gotten the name wrong, or else the "APG" is actually just a small division of a much larger corporation.

[dysfunctional press]

99. does anyone remember the gropu from texas that snuck into last year's

game?
the story/link was posted here- they went to the game, w/o tickets, then got someone with a press pass to pose for photos with them, and made sure the pass was clearly visible- & they used digital camera. they went to their van, where they had computer/printer/laminator, and proceeded to make a few fake passes, and then got onto the sidelines, during the game.
it seemed pretty cool that they could do it so easily in this high security day and age.

[spuddonna]

101. Isn't Condi supposed to be going to the Super Bowl?

I thought I read something about that here...

[Bucky]

105. I hope they keep tabs on known terrorists like Terry Bradshaw

Why do Steelers hate America?

[Imagevision]

110. Bush to rent Goodyear blimp advertising wiretaps were legal...!

[Marie26]

111. Info about chief of NFL security

Since there's no info on this firm, I googled Milt Ahlerich, head of NFL security, who decided to hire these unknown security agencies. Here I hit something interesting. Before becoming chief of NFL security, Mr. Ahlerich was the Deputy Assistant Director of the FBI. And while at the FBI, he had another connection w/the NFL.

In 1989, an investigative reporter named Dan Moldea wrote an expose called "Interference: HOw ORganized Crime Influences Football". Moldea alleged that many NFL owners had ties to the mob, that games had been fixed, and that the NFL had supressed any corruption investigations by the FBI or other law enforcement, thanks to a "sweetheart deal" the NFL security had w/law enforcement. Even before it was published, the NFL protested his work. The FBI then opened an investigation, not of NFL corruption, but of Molea himself and his work. Who supervised this investigation? Milt Ahlerich. Moldea alleged that the FBI was trying to sabotage his book as a favor to the NFL. Four years after overseeing the FBI review, Ahlerich was chosen to be the new NFL Chief of Security.

http://www.moldea.com/Six-12.html

Probably not relevant, but it does suggest that this man might have some agenda. I really do think he just made up that comment about "heading G8 security" & knew the reporter wouldn't bother checking it out. For all we know, the name could even be made up. If I made up a firm called "Epsilon Security," it would probably have as many hits as "Alpha Protection Group". Even a low-key business leaves more evidence of their existence.

[SupplyConcerns]

116. There's only ONE google hit for "Alpha Protection Group"

And it's that Philidelphia news article. Sounds legit to me!

[Marie26]

126. Right

I realized my fake "Epsilon Security" actually gets more hits. There is no way this is a real firm.

"Epsilon Security" - 298 hits
"Alpha Protection Group" - 2 hits.

"Alpha protection" does have two meanings, though. In the Pentagon, it's the security level that's the first level above normal. It's also a mechanical device on airplanes that prevents stalling. Just throwing that out there. Even if the name is made up, the fact they chose this phrase can maybe tell us who this is. Maybe this group has something to do with the Pentagon? (Or maybe it's just a typo. Who knows?)

[file83]

127. It's a fake business. They don't exist in the business world, so they

are obviously set up by the Pentagon. It's not a stretch, they do this crap all the time.

[Marie26]

128. Why bother making up a biz?

The federal gov. is obviously, and legally, involved anyway. DHS, Secret Service, Coast Guard, etc. are all providing security. And there's probably even more we don't see. But no one's trying to disguise that police presence as a private firm. So why would they need to disguise this particular group? Is there some prohibition on the Pentagon becoming involved?

[file83]

129. It's called "Plausible Deniability"

It allows the Government to cloak their links to operations that could go amiss.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plausible_deniability

Now, why they would do this at the Super Bowl could be for a number of reasons. One could be that they want to test out new "security" technologies that the general population would be upset about if they found out the Government was doing it. But if it's a private company, then people generally won't know "who" to complain to. There are a number of other possible reasons why, but we'll have to just wait and find out.

[GrantDem]

113. State Rep. John Pappageorge, R-Troy -->>

"If we do not suppress the Detroit vote, we're going to have a tough time in this election."

[AGENDA21]

114. Thats an interesting quote!

is there anybody here from detroit?

[MakeItSo]

123. Alpha Protection Group is in Georgia, here's documentation

http://www.ganet.org/cgi-bin/pub/corp/corpsearch?corpid=K520196

[MakeItSo]

124. Edited to add this: Weird that the "print date" is 2/4/06

[GrantDem]

125. Some info on CEO

Jeffrey Brinson...

http://www.sos.state.ga.us/plb/detective/08-19-04_minutes.pdf