Now they can intercept your mail, monitor your telephone/email...

[Earth_First]

build detention centers
hold you incommunicado indefinitely
free speech zones
control transparent elections

...now they're trying to tell me that they can shoot anyone they feel?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2087458&mesg_id=2087458

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[pinkpops]

1. next thing ya know they'll be tellin the NRA they can take their guns...

[converted_democrat]

2. Yea, this really bothers me..... I don't like this at all... n/t

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[converted_democrat]

4. I've read alot of history, but I've never heard of that before.. Could you

further explain it? When did this occur, and who made it legal?

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[converted_democrat]

10. I remember that, but I don't remember when the president could just

have anyone he thought to be "suspect" shot..

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[converted_democrat]

16. The president is know claiming that he has the authority to have

anyone he "suspects" of terrorism shot..

[unblock]

6. there are at least a few differences

most notably, our ww2 detention centers were for people of asian, particularly japanese, decent only. not that that justifies it (in fact it introduces overt racism into the matter), but today's detention centers are for ANYONE, at the king's whim. er, i mean shrub's whim.

i don't think the "free speech zone" existed back then, nor did they have today's one-sided level of election stealing.

plus, if there was torture in the detention centers, i haven't heard about it, and in any event i doubt it was as widespread, brutal, or condoned by the white house.

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[blonndee]

11. WHERE did anyone say that was okay? Stop with the strawman

already, or at least get better at it.

And if you don't know what a "free speech zone" is, you don't know enough about the erosion of American civil liberties since * took office to even comment about it.

[Earth_First]

12. A "free speech zone"

Free speech zones (also known as First Amendment Zones or derisively as Free speech cages) are areas set aside in public places for political activists to exercise their right of free speech. They are most certainly often city blocks away from an event that is likely to have citizens expressing their dissent to a particular event. In a recent visit to our area from King George, a one mile square radius was established around the event, and any political dissent organized within the one square mile was subject to arrest and detention.

In DIRECT violation of the First Amendment:

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

[Earth_First]

13. "Where exactly are the detention centers for American citizens today?"

Halliburton Subsidiary Gets Contract to Add Temporary Immigration Detention Centers
By RACHEL L. SWARNS
Published: February 4, 2006

WASHINGTON, Feb. 3 — The Army Corps of Engineers has awarded a contract worth up to $385 million for building temporary immigration detention centers to Kellogg Brown & Root, the Halliburton subsidiary that has been criticized for overcharging the Pentagon for its work in Iraq.

KBR would build the centers for the Homeland Security Department for an unexpected influx of immigrants, to house people in the event of a natural disaster or for new programs that require additional detention space, company executives said. KBR, which announced the contract last month, had a similar contract with immigration agencies from 2000 to last year.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/04/national/04halliburton.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

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14. yes, when i said, "not that that justifies it", i was justifying it.

:eyes:

[Hubert Flottz]

5. They can't blame our freedom as the reason the terra-ists hate us

anymore, can they?

[WearyOne2]

7. you mean you didn't know ??? you been in a cupboard 4 yrs ?