How well would cartoons lampooning Jesus and pedophile priests go over?

[NNN0LHI]

Poll question: How well would cartoons lampooning Jesus and pedophile priests go over?

[Gidney N Cloyd]

1. They get the "Book of Daniel" treatment from the religious right.

[Richard D]

2. Check out this:

[savemefromdumbya]

3. They didn't like 'The Life of Brian'

[YOY]

7. but the RW Christian Nutbags didn't attack UK embassies either

n/t

[savemefromdumbya]

40. those behind Muslim riots are not Muslims

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43. mossad mossad mossad

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[savemefromdumbya]

48. someone else

[YOY]

45. You mean BEHIND the riots...yeah I've got that suspicion as well

but the participants are indeed muslims. Not doctors, lawyers, engineers, and businessmen, but dirt poor and ignorant Muslims who most likely do not come from the upper tiers of their cultures. This is socio economic.

[HarveyBrooks]

4. None of the above

It would upset some folks but I don't think there would be rioting in the streets.

[muriel_volestrangler]

6. Agreed (n/t)

[Mr_Spock]

39. Exactly - this poll is an irrelevant joke

It has nothing to do with anything as it doesn't even contain a choice for the likely majority.

[Tom Joad]

5. What cartoons led to US bombing, torture, occupation in the Middle East?

The bombing of Al Jeezera in Afgahnistan? (The Al-Jazeera bureau in Afghanistan was bombed by U.S. warplanes in 2001.) The planned bombing in Qatar, a country friendly to the Bush regime? I hardly hear Dems in Congress complain about this either, with a few good exceptions.
So why don't we try and get our own house in order.

[oneighty]

30. We don't need no stinkin cartoonies

to call us to action.

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[TallahasseeGrannie]

8. I've seen plenty

cartoons and satire about Jesus..think South Park... this week's Rolling Stone with Kanye West as Christ. I am sure I have seen cartoons that show the Pope as a Nazi and there have been plenty about pedophile priests.

The way we handle it is to bitch, moan, write letters, threaten boycotts and generally get pissy. But I haven't seen any roving bands of Baptists out there on Embassy Row.

[NNN0LHI]

9. Hows about posting some of them pedophile priest cartoons here

I have never seen any before. Thanks in advance.

Don

[Nye Bevan]

12. There is a satirical magazine called Viz in the UK

and they published an entire comic strip entitled "Father McFiddly-- he Loves Diddling Kiddies" about the wacky antics of a priest trying to peek up the altar-boys' cassocks, etc.

I am a Christian but thought it was hilarious.

I think a couple of readers might have canceled their subscriptions. I don't think any embassies were burned down, though.

[Nye Bevan]

10. Not great

Probably some letters of complaint would be written to the editor of the publication. Some subscriptions might be canceled.

But I don't think you would see riots on the street and embassies being burned down.

[Salviati]

11. I just noticed the Futurama censorship again last night...

Apparently Dr. Farnsworth exclaiming "Sweet Zombie Jesus!" is just too offesive to show on cable at 11pm

[Nederland]

22. That's not censorship

Censorship is action by the government, not action taken voluntarily by a private person or group.

[Greyhound]

29. If the "voluntary" action is taken because they are intimidated, it is

government censorship. The old "chilling effect", ya know.

[maxsolomon]

13. the christian majority is used to feeling persecuted

and its not specifically prohibited to depict christ in idol form.

in fact, its pretty much integral to the faith.

not that i care one way or the other. if your faith is threatened by a fucking cartoon in a newspaper in a decadent secular country your 'moral' ass will never visit, then you aren't very faithful, are you?

[GoneOffShore]

14. They're already out there

Especially in Philadelphia.
I'll have to search for links.
They make me laugh.
This whole thing makes me laugh until I weep.

[noonwitch]

15. A boycott would undoubtedly be instituted by some groups

But there wouldn't be rioting in the streets or burning of newspaper buildings.

But definitely any paper publishing such a cartoon would face a massive boycott by the southern baptists and probably by that one catholic league that is always boycotting somebody who has offended them.

[xultar]

16. Another reason Fundies and Muslim extremists are a lot alike.

[ComerPerro]

17. Draw one. Lets find out. Any DU artists?

LOL.

:rofl:

[Neil Lisst]

18. It wouldn't result in riots and embassy burnings.

It WOULD result in lots of indignation, and calls for investigations, and preachers wailing like stuck pigs.

Muslims can get their panties in a bunch all they want, but beyond bitching about it, they have no right to expect anyone to share their indignation. When they stop having disgusting cartoons about Jews on a daily basis, I'll be concerned about their cartoon sensibilities.

[xultar]

19. Well if a Muslim drew it a few would sure be murdered. Fundies aren't

against killing.

They've killed abortion doctors. So be foreal.

[Neil Lisst]

23. No, it wouldn't happen.

Fundies kill Muslims through their agent, Bush, and do it under the guise of "war." Their killing is more removed, with the exception of the occasional nut job who kills someone at an abortion clinic.

[xultar]

26. WTF you don't remember the Muslims killed after 911? You don't

think a Fundie wouldn't bust a cap in a Muslims ass if they drew a cartoon of Jesus doing some shit they don't like?

[NNN0LHI]

28. They were shooting anyone with a turban on. Most weren't even Muslim

My Indian doctor stopped wearing his after 911 for safety.

Don

[xultar]

34. But they thought they were killing Muslims. Intent.

[Neil Lisst]

33. Try sticking to the topic given.

It's really fairly simple.

Would Christians riot, burn embassies, and generally declare a fatwah against Muslims if such a cartoon were made? Of course not. It's a friggin' cartoon.

When it comes to overreacting to criticism of one's religion, no one holds a candle to Islam. Not even fundies.

[xultar]

36. No you are right Christians burn Churches, Mosques and Synagogues.

My bad. :crazy:

[NNN0LHI]

21. No calls for assassinations or anything like that from the Christians?

Yea sure.

Don

[Neil Lisst]

25. Why don't read my comments as they are, instead of making up your own?

Try sticking to my comments, instead of trying to put words into my mouth.

If you want create some ridiculous straw man, do so on your own.

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[Greyhound]

31. It is true. Why not post the truth? n/t

[Neil Lisst]

38. Clearly, you deny the truth of the history of Mohammed.

I don't pull punches on the Fundies and their imaginary friends or holy figures, and I'm not going to do so for YOUR imaginary friends or holy figures.

Mohammed was a scoundrel, a warrior, a murdering pedophile.

And I don't care who takes umbrage.

You can take him, the Nazi Pope, and Jerry Falwell and stick them all in the same group as far as I'm concerned. They're all charlatans who use ignorance and superstitions to lead weak minds.

[xultar]

41. Fundies sleep with pre-teens. There. All religions have Pedophiles.

Feel better?

[Neil Lisst]

42. Yes, but the premise is flawed.

You do agree that Mohammed took preteens as wives, do you not?

And you do agree that Jesus didn't, do you not?

The point is that there is truth to the allegation that Mohammed had sex with young girls, just as there is truth that many early Mormons did so.

As for fundies who do so, I wouldn't know, but I'm sure there are some who do, but we're not talking about them, we're talking about Mohammed and Jesus, two men who could not have been more different.

[xultar]

47. What men back in those days didn't..

[negativenihil]

24. This is pretty much EXACTLY what i've been saying to RW friends...

"How do you think the people would react if say France printed a cartoon depicting Jesus as an abortion clinic bomber?"

Of course they always say "well we wouldn't riot!"

I can tell ya though. it would get Pat Robertson to issue a fatwa or two, and you know Bill O'Reilly would re-energsie his ban on everything french...

[mrfrapp]

32. The Last Temptation of Christ

Scorsese's "The Last Temptation of Christ" certainly inspired violence, in France at least. From an article about the kerfuffle created by the more recent, "The Passion of the Christ".

The industry is acutely aware of the capacity of film to stir popular passions after its experience of violent demonstrations and attacks on French cinemas following the release of Martin Scorsese's Last Temptation of Christ in 1988.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/02/29/wpass29.xml

Focusing on cartoons and wondering whether Christians would be bothered by unflattering depictions of Jesus or whomever is unhelpful. There is a rich history of extremists from all walks of life who turn to violence when they perceive a insult. The nature of the insult they perceive is immaterial.

[xultar]

37. HELLO!!!!

[Neil Lisst]

44. And when I went to see that film, fundies yelled at me.

And I told them to go fuck themselves, same as I would Muslims who might yell at me for not sharing their indignation over cartoons.

[mrfrapp]

46. Good for you n/t

[robbedvoter]

35. If convenient, Abramoff would rise the whakos to protest it

In fact, someone for sure will incite and harness the outrage - Dildo Really, Limpballs or sime nutter in Congress (Ted Stevens?)

[LeftCoast]

49. Locking

This thread has run its course.