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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:08 PM
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Kinky Friedman's campaign commercial
http://www.kinkyfriedman.com/dmdocuments/KF1_smallWM.wmv

I can't pretend to know much about Friedman, but this commercial is a refreshing mix of politix, pop art, and bashing of "religious" pols.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:10 PM
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1. He's a self-labeled Jewish Cowboy from Texas. n/t
Edited on Tue Feb-07-06 02:10 PM by CottonBear
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:12 PM
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2. Just watching Gov. GoodHair and Mean GrandmaManyNames go at it is fun
Watching them attack and shred each other will make this campaign season one I fully expect to enjoy. Throw Kinky in there and it'll be a political season to remember! :toast:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 02:04 PM
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17. Yes
Edited on Wed Feb-08-06 02:05 PM by FreedomAngel82
I don't know much about him either from what I have read on him and seen him on interviews and he doesn't seem too bad. :shrug: I think the commercial was very cute and original. It made you pay attention and the distracting actions behind him even had to do with his message even if you did get distracted from him.
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merci_me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:17 PM
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3. Does his bashing of religious pols
also tell you he's for prayer in school?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:17 PM
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4. laura`s fav band
really "kinky and the texas jewboys"
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:27 PM
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6. Kinky And The Texas Jewboys"?!
Hahahah
It certainly is fun to see a politician who doesn't take himself too seriously. (especially in Texas).

Is this the election that Scott McClellan's mother is running for? Or is she running for something else?
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:20 PM
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5. Democratic meeting
The wife and I went the other night to listen to a few Texas Dem's running in the upcoming election, here are a few names to keep up with. For Gov, Chris Bell. & Bob Gammage & for Senate, Barbara Radnofsky, she's running against KBH for her senate seat and this woman has balls.

Sorry, I like Kinky but i want a Dem in that office. I have a link to Kink's website from my website, but he want get my vote.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:28 PM
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7. Kinky is a shitty candidate who will Nader the Democratic nominee.
Unfortunately, Kinky appeals to some progressive voters who hear him poke fun at the laughable Republican morons here in Texas, but they never hear about his longstanding friendship with Dry-Drunk Bush and they never ask about his outlandish policy proposals. For example, Kinky favors:

- Prayer in public schools (what if I prefer to handle my children's religious up bringing without Kinky's help?).

- Replacement of experience workers with young people to run the state because Kinky thinks "young people are less corrupt" (apparently has never been to meeting of either the Young Republicans or the Experience Corps).

- Outsourcing border control by paying five Mexican generals each a $1,000,000 no-bid contract to keep Mexican immigrants from crossing the Texas-Mexico border illegally under penalty of deducting $5,000 from one of the general's annual $1,000,000 for each illegal immigrant (Kinky calls this "cowboy logic"; I bet those xenophobic minute men vigilantes love Kinky's plan).

- Funding public education by privatizing the physical education aspects of our public school system (I'm sure that would be a great way to fix Texas's epidemic of childhood obesity).

- Legalizing gambling (because who doesn't want more mafia and bankruptcies?).

- Abolishing political correctness (let's ban this right after we ban the sexy cheerleaders).

- Outlawing the de-clawing of cats (because Texas faces no more urgent crisis).

STOP KINKY BEFORE WE GET NADERED AGAIN!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 02:07 PM
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18. You should try to get all the democrats in Texas
to spread that information around anyway you can. Let them know the real deal with him. I think the Bush friendship thing is a big one especially since he's trying to distance himself from them. I've lost the little respect I had for him now that you've told all about that. I agree with you about the prayer thing. Just because I'm a Christian doesn't mean I want to force my beliefs down on people.
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 02:19 PM
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21. Thank you!
God I can't believe we have people on DU who might be even mildly supportive of that man. Even Carole whatever her name is this week would hurt us more than them, since republicans vote lockstep in this state. The only people upset about the fundies' control of the state repub party are moderates and progressives who don't vote repub anyway!

It's an uphill fight for Gammage or Bell anyway. Throw 2 "independent" candidates into the mix and Perry gets back in with a landslide. Though that might happen anyway with Williams's office controlling the voting machines.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 03:09 PM
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25. I'd like to outlaw the de-clawing of cats...
I think it's an unnecessary cruelty.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 04:01 PM
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26. Me too, but it's not an issue on par with school financing except to Kinky
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:35 PM
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8. I live in Texas and I love Kinky Friedman
I will vote for him, I will do what I can to help his campaign. We have a bunch of losers running in this election including Scotty's Mom and Rick Perry...

I am for change in Texas, I am tired of these bought and sold politicians....
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 03:49 PM
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12. We also have gubernatorial candidates Chris Bell who helped bring DeLay to
justice and Bob Gammage who served for years alongside Lloyd Doggett on the Texas Supreme Court when it used to be one of the more progressive pro-consumer courts in the nation. They both have the advantage of being good Democrats with proven records of service.

How a anyone who calls himself or herself a Democrat could support Kinky is beyond me.

Other than Kinky's willingness to poke fun at Perry and Carol KMRS--which is good for a laugh but it's not so funny that it's worth re-electing Perry just for the laugh (and make no mistake, re-electing Perry will be the net effect of the Kinky candidacy)--what issues from Kinky's idiotic grab bag of crazy half-baked policy suggestions would attract any supposedly progressive voter?
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 11:14 AM
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13. I am an Independent, have been from day one
I side with the Dems on a lot of issues but when it comes time to cast my ballot I vote for the person who I think is best suited for the job. I am tired of these corporate good ole boy politicians that do nothing for the people. I will check into Chris Bell's record and see what substance there is to this candidate.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 01:37 PM
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15. If you are still in favor of Kinky after checking out Bell (or Gammage),
please tell me which of Kinky's policies would be a sane and effective solution to our current problems:

- Prayer in public schools (what if I prefer to handle my children's religious up bringing without Kinky's help?).

- Replacement of experience workers with young people to run the state because Kinky thinks "young people are less corrupt" (apparently has never been to meeting of either the Young Republicans or the Experience Corps).

- Outsourcing border control by paying five Mexican generals each a $1,000,000 no-bid contract to keep Mexican immigrants from crossing the Texas-Mexico border illegally under penalty of deducting $5,000 from one of the general's annual $1,000,000 for each illegal immigrant (Kinky calls this "cowboy logic"; I bet those xenophobic minute men vigilantes love Kinky's plan).

- Funding public education by privatizing the physical education aspects of our public school system (I'm sure that would be a great way to fix Texas's epidemic of childhood obesity).

- Legalizing gambling (because who doesn't want more mafia and bankruptcies?).

- Abolishing political correctness (let's ban this right after we ban the sexy cheerleaders).

- Outlawing the de-clawing of cats (because Texas faces no more urgent crisis).

I think Kinky is a great critic of Perry, and he even makes some good points about the weakness of the Democratic Party (these are just two points where his campaign is very analogous to Nader's '00 campaign), but Kinky has no working alternative plus he can't win plus his candidacy will virtually assure Perry's re-election.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 02:08 PM
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20. Young people can be just as corrupt
Likely more since they're still young trying to make their money while older people usually have money already from their earlier years. That's just totally whacked and backwards. :crazy:
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 02:20 PM
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22. He's nuts, I tell ya. Here's an excerpt from his wesite (with that quote)
Kinky's website says:

"As Governor, Kinky, or “the Kinkster”, would:

* Legalize casino gambling to fund education
* Abolish political correctness “We didn’t get to be the Lone Star state by being politically correct”
* Take a good look at death row. “We need to make sure that we’re not putting innocent people to death, which I believe we are”
* Outlaw the de-clawing of cats
* Bring young people into his administration. “Young people are less corrupt. They are the future of Texas ; it’s theirs to win or lose.”

I’m a Jew, I’ll hire good people.

“If elected, I would ask Willie Nelson to be the head of the Texas Rangers and Energy Czar and Laura Bush to take charge of the Texas Peace Corps to improve education in the state. I’d ask my Palestinian hairdresser, Farouk Shami, to be Texas ’ ambassador to Israel . We’ve worked together to create Farouk & Friedman olive oil. The oil comes from the Holy land and all of the profits go to benefit Israeli and Palestinian children.”"

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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 08:00 PM
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27. Which of these policies bothers you so much?
You know they said a lot of stuff about Jesse Ventura too and he turned out to be a great govenor...
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 04:20 PM
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30. First, Kinky's quote "young people are less corrupt" bothers me. That's
bullshit. I've met plenty of corrupt young people and plenty of incorruptible older people. Kinky's statement is both stupid and offensive to older people. If you can't see that, then we probably have a very different set of values. I could go on, but your suggestion that Ventura was a good governor confirms that you and I are looking for a different sort of leader. I hope Kinky fails to get on the ballot (although Perry supporters are working and donating money to see that he gets on the ballot so he likely will). If Kinky gets on the ballot, good luck to you guys.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 04:47 PM
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33. "Ventura turned out to be a great governor...."
Edited on Thu Feb-09-06 04:47 PM by crispini
Huh? I'm curious, please tell me about some of the policies that Ventura put forward that made him such a great governor. I confess, I'm not a resident of Minnesota so I don't know too much about his record.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 04:43 PM
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32. Here's the issue I have with Kinky.
Laura Miller.

Ever hear of her? She is currently the mayor of Dallas. Her background is not in politics; she was a journalist for the local independent newspaper and she spent a lot of time outside the establishment taking potshots at the mayor and the council. She finally ran for councilmember and then mayor, riding her "I'm an outsider, I'm a reformer, I'm a fiery independent!" all the way.

Kinda like Kinky.

The only problem? She can't get anything done. She has NO experience in building coalitions and in bringing people together. Her entire life she's been the "outsider reformer." Now, the mayor doesn't have a lot of power; she has to work with the city council. Similarly, the governor doesn't have a lot of power, he's got to work with the Lege. Neither one can rule by fiat -- they've got to be able to work deals, to forge consensus, to build power bases, and to horse trade.

Laura Miller can't do it and I doubt Kinky will be able to either. And I'm not up for four more years of dithering around in Austin.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 02:07 PM
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19. So you like prayer in schools for example?
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 11:31 AM
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29. I like choice in schools
those that wish to can, those who don't want to don't have to. Let those who want to go somewhere else other than the class to prayer and those who don't can stay in class and it is all good. What's the problem with praying? I sometimes wonder if the Adults make a bigger deal of this than the kids....
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 03:07 PM
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9. Two independents in the race-Kinky may have a chance
I love Kinky and just wished that he was running as a democrat. With Scotty's mommy in the race, it is going to be interesting.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 03:32 PM
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10. Kinky doesn't have a chance, and with him in the race neither does the Dem
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 03:43 PM
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11. We'll get a chance to see what those tough Texans are made of.
Progressive(I), Democrat (D)LC, or (R)edneck.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 02:00 PM
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16. Kinky isn't progressive. His incoherent proposals are all over the map,
from radically reactionary to mildly reform oriented to downright insane.

When Kinky says the Democrats aren't getting the job done in Texas it is because the Republicans HOLD EVERY STATE WIDE OFFICE AND CONTROLL BOTH HOUSES OF THE LEGISLATURE. Help me find one area where there is even a glimmer of a suggestion that Kinky could or would do anything positive for Texas while the Republicans run the show? The only hope is Democrats taking back power, little by little. In the governor's race, Bell or Gammage could actually win a three-way race with Perry and Carl K/M/R/S (D/R/I), but in a four-way race, neither Kinky nor the Democrat (nor 4names/3Parties, for that matter) stands a ghost of a chance.
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 11:21 AM
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14. Go Kinky!!!........
If he gets elected, I'm moving back to Austin.
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 02:36 PM
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23. I have heard several Republicans declare support for Kinky.
They might never support a Democrat, but they really hate Perry and Scotty's Mom.

Other than 2002, when we were about to go to war in Iraq, this will be the first Texas election in ten years without George Bush on the ballot.

Texas has changed. It will be a wild year.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 02:52 PM
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24. Kinky Friedman unsuccessfully ran for sheriff as a Republican, but I
understand that the Zogby polling indicates that Kinky is taking Democrat votes 3 to 1 versus Republican votes. I also understand that some of Kinky's get-on-the-ballot funding is from Perry supporters who see Kinky taking more votes from Carol 4Names/3Parties than from Perry.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 04:26 PM
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31. Fuck Kinky!!!!
If he gets elected, I'm moving to West Virginia!

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Gingergal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 08:14 PM
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28. Kinky should talk about his friendship with bush.
Kinky talked of it in the Tim Russert interview some 2 months ago. He said they were friends. Kinky actually said the words "I love" bush (apparently he met him while * was governor of Texas.) Kinky talked about how he visits bush in D.C. and how they sit out out on the Truman balcony and smoke Cuban cigars together.
I prefer to vote for people that don't socialize with the bush crime family and preferably for someone who actually filed ethics charges against Tom DeLay (Chris Bell).
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