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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:01 PM
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Are there any psychologists out there who can explain the
Edited on Thu Feb-09-06 10:02 PM by rzemanfl
cumulative effects of being fed a steady diet of incredible bullshit? Of seeing logical, predictable results turned inside out by last minute "changes" in vote totals that defy rational explanation? Of seeing the undeserving rewarded for incompetence, graft and inaction while the deserving get screwed time and again? Of seeing supposedly intelligent people in nice clothes and fancy hairdos gobble up pure crap, smile and regurgitate the feces to the masses it like a mother bird feeding her young? Do people go postal, insane or just give up in disgust? How many insults to one's intelligence can a mind take?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:01 PM
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1. or better yet
explain how a small minority of us are completely immune to it
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:03 PM
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2. You mean as in stupid? n/t
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:06 PM
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4. ??
not sure I understand
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:14 PM
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11. Sorry, replied to wrong post. n/t
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:14 PM
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10. Are you talking about people who know it is all bullshit and don't
care or people who don't know they are being bullshitted 24/7?
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:05 PM
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3. The creation of the Schizoid personality.
http://www.mentalhealth.com/dis/p20-pe02.html

A pervasive pattern of detachment from social relationships and a restricted range of expression of emotions in interpersonal settings, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by four (or more) of the following:

1. neither desires nor enjoys close relationships, including being part of a family
2. almost always chooses solitary activities
3. has little, if any, interest in having sexual experiences with another person
4. takes pleasure in few, if any, activities
5. lacks close friends or confidants other than first-degree relatives
6. appears indifferent to the praise or criticism of others
7. shows emotional coldness, detachment, or flattened affectivity
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:15 PM
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12. What's schizoid personality disorder got to do with the
original question? It's somewhat rare & has nothing to do with the question posed by the OP.

And yes, I've diagnosed a few schizoids in my time.

Actually, what I think happens under the circumstances posited in the original post is that some people just withdraw their attention in one way or another. Some may go into denial, others may just feel helpless and resolve their discomfort by refusing to take in any more information, choosing instead to fill their awarenesses with something else. Missing brides, stupid sports, surreality TV, whatever.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 11:00 PM
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18. Maybe someone's been listening to King Crimson
:D :headbang:

Always argued my limitations
Never argued against my fears
Always questioned my way of thinking
Never looked ahead, ahead with hope

Always restless and impatient
Never rode the waves of delight
Always worry too much about nothing
Never relaxed, nor have some fun

Chorus
and I'm turning into the thing I hate the most
High ideals but I'm not even close
I seem complete but I'm thinking that I'm broken
Turning into the 21st century schizoid man

Always bottled up my emotions
Never held back all of the rage
Always leaving too much unspoken
Never edgy, too highly strung

Chorus
and I'm turning into the thing I hate the most
High ideals but I'm not even close
I seem complete but I'm thinking that I'm broken
Turning into the 21st century schizoid man

And I never had fun as a child
Nervous wreck behind my smile
Happy go lucky or so they said
Feel inside like I'm the living dead
Hiding secrets, hiding lies
Tortured soul, crimson disguise
Torn between my wants and needs
I bare this soul for you to read
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FULL_METAL_HAT Donating Member (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 10:50 AM
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24. KC is my king... Go Swamprat!! :^) nt.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:07 PM
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5. Depends On The Personality Type.
Edited on Thu Feb-09-06 10:08 PM by OPERATIONMINDCRIME
Some will tune it out and go back to ignorance is bliss, some will just give up in defeat and depression due to low feelings of self worth and inability to recognize they have the power to help, still others will use each incident to fuel their desire to continue to fight for justice, integrity and honor, while others will not be able to focus the issues enough and will let the anger overtake them until they are filled with such frustration they lose the ability to use rational debate and logic, and are always stuck in high defensive gear. The final type will be like the last mentioned, but take it too far and end up with homeland security knocking at their door or in jail for cutting that car off with the bush sticker on it and then jumping out and punching their window.

All in all, the cumulative effects I've shown above can mostly all be seen on a daily basis, when jumping from thread to thread.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:21 PM
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13. ROFL
well said!
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:22 PM
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14. Good analysis. I would love to cut off some cars and punch out
some windows but never will.
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OrcaStraight Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:22 PM
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15. Let me add...
Edited on Thu Feb-09-06 10:29 PM by OrcaStraight
Please DO remind people that one does not 'get' a personality disorder as an adult. It's a pervasive method of functioning that has taken a long time to develop starting in one's childhood. Of course, stress can exacerbate any difficulties in functioning, as can any drug or alcohol use.:)
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 12:41 AM
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21. Welcome to DU, OrcaStraight.
Edited on Fri Feb-10-06 12:42 AM by Kurovski
:hi: Are you a musician? :-)
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OrcaStraight Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 12:50 AM
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22. No...
However, I DO live on Puget Sound!:woohoo: :applause: :hi:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 12:58 AM
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23. And I'm a few hours away.
I'm tickled by your choice of name. :-)
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:07 PM
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6. Ask Victor Frankl!
A Psychiatrist who in his earlier years survived the holocaust.

His saving grace was that he found a way to have meaning in his life.

If we have no meaning or higher cause to aspire to, then we have the bullshit.

Think this, no way can fascism survive because it is self limiting. The rest of the world won't stand for it.

Of course that may mean that there is a lot of bullshit along the way.

Have something to stand for, have meaning in your life. Then when the shit hits the fan, you won't just be swept away by the tsunami created by it.

Good luck, and peace. We all are going to need it.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:13 PM
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8. Noology ...
Frankl authored some 31 books, the best known being "Man's Search for Meaning." His work helped a friend of mine survive 20 years in prison for a crime that he did not commit. Great books.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:10 PM
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7. I'm no psychologist but.............
I think this "steady diet" leads to the anger that the repugs are chastening the Dems with. "We're mad as hell and won't take it anymore" attitude results when we're stuffed to the brim with all this crap. Consequently,all the repug effort to smear, spin and twist public opinion and the facts will result in being the mobilizing force we need to take our country back!
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:13 PM
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9. I hate to say it, but America NEEDS people to "go postal"
I hate to say it even more, but I fear that is what it will eventually have to come to for anything to really change.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:52 PM
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16. You snap and start painting weird happy shit
and then you try to sell it on ebay.

Don't ask me how I know this because I will take the 5th (unless that too has been taken out of the constitution and I wouldn't know because I am too busy trying to paint weird happy shit to sell on ebay)

If the above is too technical -- let me just say...a steady diet of this *bushit insults my intelligence* for five years and counting makes a person go crazy.

I am there my friend so if you're doing a thesis PM me.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:54 PM
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17. I think they're breaking new ground in the field of psych-ops.
but they'll let us know when the test results come in.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 11:11 PM
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19.  I love your drawing!
:hi:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 11:12 PM
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20. Don't forget to mention all the death
from Katrina, Iraq, increased terrorism, poverty, neglect.

And the "suicided".
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 11:05 AM
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25. all the emotions from
:nuke: to :boring: can be seen in response to these times.

But I think we are awakening from the collective delusions slowly.
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