After the Hearings: Does anyone actually still think Bush & Chertoff...

[FormerRepublican]

...didn't know early the levees were breached?

I think there was still an awful lot of dancing around and excuses for what went wrong after Katrina. A lot of finger pointing anywhere except at the President or Chertoff.

I also think people made Brown responsible for EVERYTHING after Katrina, and implied that he shouldn't be asking for help from anyone (military brass thinking), which was pretty impractical given the scope of the thing. It's like saying New York police should handle the terrorist investigation after 9/11. Brown was saying he made all kinds of requests for stuff, and DHS was saying they never rec'd the requests. Well what the heck - did they go off into the bit bucket in the sky? SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE received those requests and sat on them. And I don't believe for a second that the federal response in LA was anywhere close to the federal response for kiss-up Barbour. I still think there's a whole lot to this story that no one is talking about.

What's perfectly clear to me is that our government is STILL woefully incompetent. And BushCo politics is still making hay in Washington.

My assessment? :puke:

[MadMaddie]

1. Good Assessment...

And as the revelations continue to come out the more apparrant it is that they intentionally let NO be destroyed and along with that let the American citizens suffer.

They are destabalizing this country to the likes of which has never been seen before. It has taken them only 6 years to set this country back by 10-20 years.

I think the forefathers who wrote the constitution forsaw this very situation and put in ways to attempt to prevent it.


:nuke:

[Warpy]

2. Brown knows Stupid and Chertoff are making him the fall guy

and he doesn't like it, so he's singing like a birdie. However, it should be remembered that he preferred to dine splendidly rather than swallow a burger and do his job, that he was more concerned with appearance ("make sure you roll up your sleeves!" "I'm a fashion god") than he was with actual performance. He was a place holder who was called upon to do his job, and he failed miserably.

Yes, it's hard to go after higher ups, to chase them down and to get action out of them, and that's exactly what he needed to do but failed to.

This country deserves better than every one of these men. I hope they are gone soon and replaced with officials who give a shit.

[ChiciB1]

3. YOUR Assessment Right Now Is What I Said This AM As The

hearing got started!! Why should any of us EVER believe it would be any different??

Just ask yourself many scandals and screw-ups have happened as of this date? Then ask yourself, how much of it has touched the WH in any significant way?? Hey many out there don't even think the Abramhoff think is much of a problem.

We just sit and peddle in place, over and over and over again! Words can't define how irate I feel MOST OF THE TIME!!!

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

4. Of course they knew. But even if they didn't, it's their JOB to know.

The responsibility is no different.

Clinton left an international meeting to come back to stay on top of developments for a smaller category storm.

Shrub went to fundraisers, strummed a guitar, and ate cake with McCain even after the storm hit.

Repubs can show all the flooded bus pics they want, blame Brownie/Nagin/Blanco/Clinton. The thing speaks for itself. Everyone knows the biggest responsibility for trying to save a major American city from ANY disaster, whether natural or man made, rests with the federal government. Whether they want to admit it or not.

[Klukie]

7. Amen

Anyone who knows anything about management knows that the higher up you get the more responsibility you are entrusted with. Basic concept. Who are these idiots kidding. Even if Brownie didn't relay the information correctly or in a timely manner, this in no way diminishes his superiors responsibility to see the overall picture. There should be criminal negligence charges brought against the lot of them.

[Coastie for Truth]

5. Even the GOP realizes it

In a major earthquake along California's Hayward Fault (East side of San Francisco Bay - right under Interstate 680) the Levees holding back the Sacramento and San Joaquin Rivers (and protecting America's "Salad Bowl") will fail. That's a given.

Wipe out Richard Pombo's 11th District - that's a given

Wipe out the State Capital - Sacramento- That's a given.

And California won't get squat from Bush.


One of the few good things Boobengrabber has done -- emphasis on Disaster Readiness and a bond issue to rebuild the Sacramento and San Joaquin River levees. We don't expect squat from Bush or Cheney or Rove or Chertoff. These hearings just reinforce that.

[Whoa_Nelly]

6. Our government isn't woefully incompetent

It's on track with a plan.

I watched this on Free Speech TV, and it's the most compelling video re: BushCo/PNAC global domination documentary I have ever viewed.

If you haven't seen this video, you can buy it (see first link), or request it from the library at http://www.peacekeepers.org:

http://www.arsenalofhypocrisy.com/index.asp

Arsenal of Hypocrisy:
The Space Program and the Military Industrial Complex

There are some other videos ar this site which can also be requested at the peacekeeper.org site as well.

[never_get_over_it]

8. I called Collins' office

and said I was outraged when it happened and outraged again after hearing all of this that MY FEDERAL govenrnment let these people down so badly and that it is time for Chertoff to be fired and that this should be added to the long list of reasons to impeach and remove the freak in chief from office....(well I didn't say freak in chief)