Did anyone else hear what Ed Rollins just said on Dobbs?

[speedoo]

He said something like "This is the most incompetent government in the history of the country. The only thing they are good at is winning elections."

Rollins is one of the more honest repubs, a straight shooter IMO, but this is still a pretty shocking statement. Another sign the tide has turned.

[katty]

1. Incompetent AND Criminals

[MissMarple]

2. Yes! I thought I was in the twilight zone. All of them agreed.

And Lou said the American people know better than to believe the media hype. I wish.

[Kierkegaard]

7. "Media hype" is code-speak for the 'journalists' having their

collective heads up their asses. It's not their fault that they are incompetent, supportive of a lying, deliberately deceptive propaganda machine, not to mention biased, star-struck, spineless apologists.

[Dr.Phool]

3. Yeah, I read his book years ago.

Backrooms and bare knuckles. Or vice versa, it's been a long time.

He talked about running Michael Huffingtons Senate race in California. Said that he gave an empty suit a bad name.

[Disturbed]

5. I no longer watch any shows by RWingers.

Even though Lou Dobbs is correct about Outsourcing America, he is still a RW
supporter.

[MissMarple]

10. Lou thinks the same way. It was a big discussion.

I hope someone gets that on a linkable video. I want to watch it again. Actually it repeats tonight. I'll TIVO it.

[The Backlash Cometh]

12. You and I both have the same doubts about Lou.

I remember when he was pro free-market in the pre-Bush years and how he was very smug and condescending to Democrats who tried to warn about what was coming.

Since then outsourcing and the illegal alien situation are the only two issues where he'll find agreement with the majority of Americans. Outside of that he's all Capitalist Republican.

[adriennui]

14. people have changed.

lou has come over from the dark side....this has nothing to do with xenophopia but the fact the low paid inept workers are taking our jobs and with those our buying power.

it's a mess, and the chimp doesn't seem to give a damn. our country is being sold to the highest bidder.....sometime even the lowest. it make no sense!!!!!!!!!!

[The Backlash Cometh]

16. Outside of those two issues, he hasn't changed at all.

[Brundle_Fly]

4. Did you hear Lou say..

"Boffo??!!?"

If the tide is turning too fast for you just switch on over to hardball, where the right wing is still king.

[kath]

6. Make that "*stealing*" elections and we'll be closer to the truth...

[robbedvoter]

8. Ed Rollings knows exactly the meaning of "winning"

He came in the news some years ago when he bragged on a radio show about buying votes in a NJ Senate race.

[AlCzervik]

9. I'm sorry, Republican normally Bush apologist Ed Rollins said that?

some check me quick--are monkeys coming out of my butt?

[otohara]

11. Pigs Fly - Holy Shit

Wow, KKKarl is going to have him "offed"

[stevietheman]

13. Wow. If Rollins has turned, the Bush Regime is toast. n/t

n/t

[tiptoe]

15. Rollins misses the point: It's not incompetence, but Neocon strategy...

vs traditional Republicanism, IMO.

Repeated use of the term "incompetence" misappreciates Neocon intentions, goals, policies, methods...about which there is no incompetence, but deliberation. 100,000+ Iraqis, 1000s of Americans soldiers and citizens are dead in Iraq and New Orleans because of..."INCOMPETENCE"?!!...PRIVACY of 10s-of-1000s-or-more Americans being invaded by the NSA!...through an "INCOMPETENT interpretation" of the Constitution?!?!...Air-defense apparently ordered to stand-down during 9/11 (and FAA tapes destroyed) because of..."Incompetence"?!!...No way!...Rather because of strategies, goals and values NOT reflective of "traditional" Republicans like Ed Rollins, "one of the more honest Repubs," or Former Secretary of Commerce, Pete Peterson ("my party seems to have lost its moorings"), or Former EPA director Russell Train ("my father did not vote Republican for first time").

..."I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it to the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub." Grover Norquist, on NPR 2001

Grover Norquist is the mastermind of the radical fiscal policies, behind which there is definitely a hidden agenda. He is a Washington power broker who oversees coordination of administration players through a weekly breakfast, attended by all branches of government.

“Creative destruction is our middle name, both within our society and abroad. We tear down the old order every day, from business to science, literature, art, architecture, and cinema, to politics and the law. Our enemies have always hated this whirlwind of energy and creativity which menaces their traditions (whatever they may be) and shames them for their inability to keep pace. … <W>e must destroy them to advance our historic mission.” Michael Ledeen

"We can lead by the force of high moral example ... fear is much more reliable, and lasts longer.” Michael Ledeen

Michael Ledeen is a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, a major think tank, and influential with Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz.

(Also, he's been recently associated with an origination source of the forged Niger documents used in the SOTU to justify attacking Iraq.

“We are different from previous generations of conservatives. We are no longer working to preserve the status quo. We are radicals, working to overturn the present power structure of this country.” Paul Weyrich

Paul Weyrich is founder of the Heritage Foundation, which has itself been at times called a shadow government, due to its influence with leaders.

This might not sound so alarming, unless you realize that they carry no great allegiance to the structures of democracy, nor to the Constitution. Or unless you realize that they carry great influence and can see the traces of that influence in the actual deeds of the administration...

(Source: In Their Own Words ..Additional quotes by Horowitz, Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, DeLay...)

...Now it is true that I believe this country is following a dangerous trend when it permits too great a degree of centralization of governmental functions. I oppose this--in some instances the fight is a rather desperate one. But to attain any success it is quite clear that the Federal government cannot avoid or escape responsibilities which the mass of the people firmly believe should be undertaken by it. The political processes of our country are such that if a rule of reason is not applied in this effort, we will lose everything--even to a possible and drastic change in the Constitution. This is what I mean by my constant insistence upon "moderation" in government. Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas.5 Their number is negligible and they are stupid...
Dwight David Eisenhower, 1954, Presidential Papers

[seabeyond]

17. Rollins is one of the more honest repubs... yes he is. i thought

he might disappoint me from title, but once again, no he didnt disappoint

[wookie294]

18. Actually, Rollins didn't say that -- but he agreed with it

Still, very interesting....

KLEIN: I've been doing this for 35 years. This is the most incompetent and arrogant American government that I've seen. They are good at only one thing, and that is running election campaigns and that is now what they're swinging into for 2006.

ROLLINS: I've been doing it for 40 years, and that's exactly right. And the end of the day is...

KLEIN: Oh, my God.

ROLLINS: I look younger but I'm older.

KLEIN: It's frightening that we're in total agreement on this.

ROLLINS: But the most absurd part of this is these guys are election-proof and they don't want to do what's right for the country. They don't want to do what's right. They are in a position where they could be brave and courageous, and they're not willing to be brave and courageous.

DOBBS: You heard it here, they're election-proof. And if that's the case, that's your fault and mine.

ROLLINS: I agree.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0602/10/ldt.01.html

[Celebration]

19. my favorite quote from Dobbs

DOBBS: Well, that brings us -- as we wrap up here, we talk about this government, because it is difficult to find competence in many departments within this government, period. I mean, we may joke about it, but we are watching a government right now struggling to function.

But what about the national news media here? About those of us covering this government, these politicians, and playing some sort of kabuki dance until -- instead of getting to the facts. Men and women and children watching this broadcast and reading your newspaper, your magazine, they know better. And we continue this dance, as if there's no independent, non-ideological reality.