Wishing Fossett would just die trying, and put an end to it.

[Inland]

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/12/national/12plane.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

I'm getting pretty tired of Fossett's attempting an irrelevant record. Usually, I don't wonder how people can justify spending their own money, but he's at the point where he just pays through the nose for a piece of high tech equipment, straps himself in, and goes nowhere for no purpose. Thinking that he has heirs who can put the money to better use if he should fail this time in a big way.

[rfranklin]

1. Nobody has cared since Lindbergh...

Maybe he could shoot himself into space in a rocket and disappear into the Milky Way.

[Swede]

2. Without people like Fossett we'd be living in caves.

nt.

[Inland]

7. Yeah, I remember Einstein's bungee jump........nt

[Swede]

8. You don't get it.

I understand now.

[Inland]

14. That was pretty clear from the start.

I'm not sure what you expected to change.

[zanne]

3. Wow, that's harsh.

Maybe if he didn't get so much attention, he'd stop doing it.

[BlueEyedSon]

4. Arguably, the advances in technology (his planes need to be very

light & efficient) will trickle down to consumer products. It's not like we have a gov't sponsored space program of any consequence anymore.....

Save your death wished for truly evil people.

[Inland]

6. Argggh. His planes aren't new technology.

The only difference in his planes is that they are modified to remove any useful purpose and to propel his ass forward.

[Ready4Change]

44. Yep. He could have just flown this:

That's up in the air. Heck, it's even got two (count'em! 2) seats. The GlobalFlyer only sits one. It's clearly far worse than this plane from 100 years ago!

Nope, nothing new about the GlobalFlyer.

Now excuse me, I've go to go shoe my horse so it will be ready for my commute, tomorrow.

[Joe Fields]

51. lol. Giddyap!

[Inland]

55. Why not? The guy flew a balloon, tech from a century earlier.

Please, tell me you include the balloon in perfecting new technologies.

In fact, since his point is worthless records, why not be the first biplane to circumnavigate the globe? He can have the best engine, most frictionless surfaces, air tanks.....

It's all pretty pointless. I think your attempt to make it something else fails.

[SammyWinstonJack]

88. LOL

Ride 'em Cowboy! :rofl:

[CTyankee]

5. I thought the same thing (secretly)! Your post made my laugh.

You know it's his big, fat male ego. I'd hate to be his wife or kid.

[Tinksrival]

67. I snorted my Diet Pepsi when I read the title!

Figured OP was being funny.....You only got one life to live.....let live!

:rofl: :popcorn:

[Ready4Change]

9. If I may ask, how do his activities harm you?

Any human endeavor can be seen as pointless from some vantage. To me, it only becomes a problem (and something to complain about) when it harms someone else.

[Inland]

16. They don't harm me. But they don't help anyone, either.

It's a huge amount of money to fuel a worthless hobby. All sorts of similar activities don't hurt anyone, they just don't cost as much money. The fact that all human activity seems pointless from some vantage doesn't disguise the fact this is pointless from all vantages.

I'll allow that his tombstone should read, "He spent millions of dollars that didn't help anybody or achieve anything worthwhile, but didn't get anyone killed but himself".

[Ready4Change]

33. Then let's eliminate ALL wasted spending.

No more sports. No more arts. No more helping chronically ill or disabled people, for they are just a drag on our resources, an inefficient use of our capabilities.

Let's make our selves so efficient we no longer have any clue whatsoever being "human" means any more. Let's rip out any semblance of adventure. Let's shatter any myth of romance. Let's burn any fiction, let's crush any artistic creation, let's replace all colors with a single gray.

Let's?

Some people feel a need to travel and explore as strong as they need to eat and breath. Some feel a similar need to create art, perform music, raise children, program computers, heal diseases, or compete in sports. When we deny anyone the ability to try these things, we deny our own humanity. We become less than ourselves.

Let Us Not.

[Beelzebud]

34. Very well said!

Thank you.

[Inland]

37. No, let's spend ALL our money on toys! Because we have NO standards!

If someone spends money to buy a work of art, then there is absolutely NOTHING IN THE UNIVERSE that can distinguish that spending from my buying my fiftieth Bentley.

Because YOU want to spend money on charity, then there is no moral code in existence that let's anyone criticize my purchase of a sixty million dollar mansion to compliment my one hundred million dollar mansion.

Or my six thousandth hooker.

Or another small Pacific Island.

Because I FEEL IT STRONGLY that I need to do these things is all you need to know.

I could use the ridiculous example of an around the world balloon ride, but it's too ridiculous to comtemplate. Fossett had to invent it.

[Ready4Change]

43. Actually, I totally agree with you.

"If someone spends money to buy a work of art, then there is absolutely NOTHING IN THE UNIVERSE that can distinguish that spending from my buying my fiftieth Bentley."

When it is private money, the I feel the choice is also private. Otherwise, it's not really private money, is it?

[Inland]

52. Some private. News Teams invited.

Fact is, the guy doesn't want it private, he wants to claim a public record and have all the news people attend. He's inviting an opinion. He just intends to be a good one, that's all.

I still get to say that I think it's a godawful waste of money, and that he should be ashamed for his expensive vanities. Otherwise, there's no reason to call for anyone to give to charity or to pay taxes or to, as you said, fund art or real exploration. You've chosen a completely amoral standard for personal spending. I don't want that. At some point, it's a waste of HIS money that I get to comment on. Fossett's WAY past that.

[BrotherBuzz]

10. He does just sign the check and step aboard...

No sweat equity involved. He demonstrated this in sailing when he broke Peter Hogg's singlehanded sailing record across the Pacific. Hogg invested every nickel and every waking moment working on the project for years, only to have it broken within a months by Steve Fossett. Steve just stepped aboard his big nickel boat waiting for him and went for it. Hogg now skippers for Fossett. Ain't America grand!

[Poiuyt]

11. That's kind of a mean thought

I find him irrelevant too, but I don't wish death on him

[ladjf]

12. It seems like an interesting accomplishment. I don't see why that

makes so angry about how he spends his money.

[applegrove]

13. I saw his wife (same age as him) run up to him and give him a welcome.

That's great. Don't care how rich you are. Or what your poison is. That's a nice picture.

[Beelzebud]

15. YES! Wish death on a guy doing something peaceful!! Real progressive!!!!

What... The... Fuck...

I remember when democrats lead the nation in moving foward.

But I guess these days, Kennedy would be called a dreamer, and everyone would laugh at the Apollo missions.

[Inland]

17. Fossett's exploring space now. And moving the nation forward. WTF?

You can't justify what he's doing, so you justify the space program. Good going.

You'll be thrilled to hear that Fossett did whatever he was trying to do. Feel the nation move foward? Me neither.

[Beelzebud]

18. Did Fossett piss in your Cherrios or what?

Are you simply jealous of his money? What has he done to inspire such hatred?

What he is doing doesn't need to be "justified", by me, you, or anyone else. It's his money, and he can do with it what he pleases.

[Inland]

19. What did he do to become your biggest hero? Spend money on shit?

I'm not really sure what this guy did to become your biggest hero besides make money and spend it on his little projects that please himself.

Sure, he can spend his money on whatever he likes, and he doesn't have to justify it to me. I don't know why that makes him your personal pinup boy. He chose something that strikes me as foolish at best.

If you want a thread thanking the rich for their excesses, I'm sure you can post one or two.

[Beelzebud]

20. When did I say he was my biggest hero? I just don't think he should die.

Poor you. I can see it's totally about jealousy.

So you wouldn't spend your money like this. Neitehr would I.

That doesn't mean I think the man should fucking die...


And for the record. He's not my "hero". I just find it pathetic that a "progressive" would wish death on a man, for doing something peaceful.

[Inland]

23. Yes, because that would end the space program, right? WTF?

I don't think he should die, either. I think he should stop.

But not you, you think that because he can spend his money on whatever he likes, he should waste it on his own vanity and anyone who thinks differently, well, there just jealous Jacobins.

That's real progressive. Next time some rich guy complains that his taxes prevent him from digging the World's Largest Hole and parachuting in, I'll tell him it's the liberal thing to do, because we don't ever, ever, ever have an opinion on anything and its HIS MONEY.

[Beelzebud]

25. You are really out there...

Worlds largest hole to parachute in? What does some silly example like that have to do with a guy making a 70+ hour flight?

But oh I forgot. We as progressives should tell people how to spend their money, and if they decide to do something one of us doesn't agree with, we should just urge them to stop, or die. Whichever comes first...

I'll say it again. You're jealous of his money.

Whatever you like to do with your time: STOP

Someone might not like the same thing you do.

[Inland]

27. Yeah, Fossett's not similarly worthless. Round the world in a balloon.

After all, it's perfecting a nineteenth century technology. Look how many uses it has in real life. Why, it's the cure to the traffic problem.

And someone might not like the same thing I do. But when I'm knee deep in hookers and cocaine, just to see how much I can take, I'm sure nobody will criticize me unless they are just jealous. After all, why could anyone ever take issue with any rich person, except jealously.

Really progressive, all of it.

[Beelzebud]

28. You're right. He should just die!!!!

How dare him spend his own money, on something he enjoys!

Death to him!!!!!!!!!!111

[Inland]

29. No, he should be a progessive icon, for he moves the nation forward! nt

[Beelzebud]

30. No my friend. YOU should be a progressive icon.

Because you know how to move the nation foward!

Someone tries something, that hasn't been done before, with their own money: DEATH!!!!

WOO HOO!!!!

[Inland]

31. Thanks, but all I did was state the obvious.

And nobody asked me how I would move the nation foward with a few million, and I'm wondering why not. I think I could do more with ten bucks than your hero Fossett did with all his vanities piled one on top of another.

I guess you never got past the stage of declaring that Fossett should be thanked for taking his millions and throwing it down a rat hole. I guess that being really progressive is saying "it's his money" and elevating whatever he wants to do with it from legally permissiable to a moral good. How progressive.

But what do I know. I'm just jealous, right?

[Beelzebud]

32. You definatley are jealous.

And again. Fossett is no hero of mine, i just don't wish the man dead, for doing something peaceful!

[bbgrunt]

21. he eats up news time with his irrelvant stunts. I'm sick of him too. nt

[Briarius]

22. Because your post on DU is sooo much more important

it's his money, so what's your problem? At least he's doing some decent things with it, challenging science and himself. Better that than buying mansions and elections in my book.

[Inland]

24. WTF? I'd buy the election in a heartbeat.

Sure, it's somewhat hypocritical, but I could do some good with an election. Like taxing Fossett.

Maybe my post isn't important, but it cost as much as it is worth. A lesson.

[Briarius]

26. Absolute hipocracy

very nice. Get over yourself dude. :eyes:

[Zenlitened]

35. Really got yer priorities in order, don't you?

Someone investing in technology -- which pays peoples' salaries, BTW -- and doing so out of a sense of adventure and challenge... and you're wishing for him to die?

Twisted. But not surprising.

:puke:

[Inland]

36. Glad to know where your priorities are.

Calling what Fosett does as "investing in technology" and paying for people's salaries, the first being stupid and the second being right out of the right wing's handbook, all for the purpose of taking a shot a me.

I know you're pissed that I called you on your pseudo intellectual bullshit, but don't compound your earlier blather by trying to make Fossett into a hero. Unless, of course, you are emulating his Guinness Book fetish by trying to make the world's Largest Pile.

[Zenlitened]

38. "Stupid... rightwing handbook... pseudointellectual bullshit... blather.."

All in all, a classic Inland post. :eyes:

[Inland]

39. "Classic"? Used only in response to you. Figure it out.

The shoe fits you in a way it just doesn't fit everyone. If it seems usual to you, it's you, not me. By the way, you forgot that you are pissed off for me saying so.

[Zenlitened]

41. ???

Do you read your stuff before you hit the "submit post" button?

:crazy:

[Inland]

42. Aw, the perfesser has to pretend it doesn't understand.

Started off thinking you would take a shot at me, and look where you end up. Pathetic. Go read a book, perfesser.

[Zenlitened]

45. Now I'm an "it."

Nice.

The sad fact is, you take a "shot" at yourself virtually every time you post. You truly are a vile person.

[Inland]

48. Yep, you play the guessing game to be "offended." Who cares.

You've got this thing where you let people guess your gender so you can be insulted when they get it wrong. So you're an "it", along with absolutely no function whatsoever.

You parachuted in for the sole purpose of taking a shot at me and are getting a pummeling, but you are too full of yourself to just leave well enough alone. There isn't a person with less to offer on this entire board than you, but you've got this opinion of yourself that let's you think you can take a shot at me, be an idiot in the process and still complain that mean people call you on it.

You've got no point, no purpose, no opinion and no business wasting people's time with your bullshit. Just. Go. Away. Perfesser.

[Zenlitened]

58. Oh, where to begin, describing...

Is that how you shield yourself from the fact of your own noxious record? Imagine that you are delivering a "pummeling"? How sad. As is your fear of women who contradict you. Doesn't speak well of you at all.

And the insults just keep coming, don't they? Even in a post where you try to portray yourself as a victim of some sort, all you do is spew out poison. Projecting again, describing your own inadequacies by ascribing them to others, which seems to be your style.

What a sickness. You started athread wishing someone would die simply for indulging in adventure as a hobby. And now you're all bent out of shape and whimpering "go away go away go away."

How do you even look at yourself in the mirror?

[Inland]

64. Yep, you always thought it was your role to judge everyone else.

The Perfesser. Made one stab at addressing the subject, made a fool of itself, added an insult, and then it become some pychoanalytical bullshit about how YOUR need to open your big mouth shows that I have a character flaw.

Yeah, I made you post in this thread, made you insult me, and made you say stupid things. Just like I make you chase other poor people around threads with your freshman year analysis.

I just call you on it. Perfesser. And that you can never forgive, because I puncture your pretenses and noted that you've got nothing to say and won't stop saying it.

Just go find a function. You're worthless even as a punching bag.

[Zenlitened]

65. Ha ha ha!

"Go away go away go away go away go away."

How can someone with such a vivid -- if poisonous -- imagination just keep posting the same old whine over and over?

:D

[Inland]

70. You call for it. But you knew that by now.

If you ever had something new besides your own pretense, Perfesser, you might get a new result.

But you've got nothing, are nothing, besides an undeserved self image.

And here's a clue--when someone tells you to go away, they don't change their mind if you stay. If you knew that you were looking like an idiot, you would have gone already. But you don't, and you don't.

[Zenlitened]

72. *snicker*

Oh, if only you could see yourself through others' eyes.

An emotionally healthy person would be begging the mods to delete such a thread, if they'd started such a thing in a moment of weakness.

But you come back for more and more, disgracing yourself further with every post.

Unreal.

[Inland]

76. Ah, more pysch class. Or is it Oprah? So predictable and worthless.

Really, go find a function for yourself. You've got no purpose, no point of view, and nothing to add. Take a class. Or take a powder. Just go away.

[Zenlitened]

77. "go away go away go away go away go away"

:rofl:

[Inland]

79. And find a function. Do both.

Learn something.

[Zenlitened]

81. Oh, I've learned plenty. It's been quite a study...

... in pathology, reading your posts all these months.

[Inland]

83. "A study in pathology", puffing on the Meerschaum pipe.

What a pretentious load of twaddle. Go find a function, Freud Lite. Nobody's impressed with your frosh gut course. Perfesser.

[Zenlitened]

87. Gonna keep in hammering that "perfesser" thing, huh?

Anti-intellectualism, is that part of your chart, too?

:shrug:

[Inland]

92. Anti pseudo intellectualism. Jeez, you really don't get it.

Actually thinking yourself intellectual. You're the Perfesser in the same way a bald guy is called Curley.

Welcome to ignoreville. Any idiot could do what you do, but only you won't be embarassed into stopping.

Hoping you find a use in your life. Doubt it.

[Zenlitened]

94. Can I really hope it's true? I'm on your ignore list!

:applause:

[Zenlitened]

91. BTW, "guessing game." That's rich!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=user_profiles&u_id=160059

But hey, why let a little knowledge get in the way of your violent psychosexual fantasies?

[Zenlitened]

46. "Only" in response to me. I wish that was the case, I really do.

But the sad fact is your posts are routinely poisonous, toxic to any and everyone you target, as this thread shows.

I can't believe you're a DUer.

[Inland]

49. "I really do". From the person who parachuted in with the insults.

Now wants to pretend to be the politeness police. I've never met a person with less function, and more hypocrisy, than your self serving, self important, pretentious Perfersser Z.

Just go away, Politeness Person. You are getting what you asked for, and if you don't like it, don't start it and for god's sake, stop being yourself. Take a class or something.

[Zenlitened]

56. Hee hee hee! Being lectured by Inland about politeness!

Now that's funny. In a thread about wishing someone dead, no less!

And in the same breath, you fling a few more insults! :D

Anger management. Look into it. Because you're own tortured mental state appears to be consuming you.

[Inland]

59. dupe

[Zenlitened]

62. Projection. Again. Is that your whole act?

Every complaint you've aired describes you to a "T."

And I suspect you know it -- perhaps that's what has you in such a constant state of bitterness and rage.

What a grotesque.

[Inland]

90. "Is that your whole act", from the person w/out an idea

besides how to critique my posts. The perfesser.

If you didn't provoke, you'd have no reason to post. You've nothing. A fart in the wind.

[Zenlitened]

93. Oh, it's not just your posts I'm critiquing.

It's the entirety of who and what you are.

A true grotesque.

[Inland]

60. You're being lectured about your hypocrisy and worthless posts.

So clueless to the fact you can't be both insulting and the politeness police, both parachute in with insults and then complain about tone, have nothing to say and pretend to be smart.

You can't figure it out. Any other person would be ashamed of themselves, but you, you are driven by your own self importance to come to a battle of wits armed with zippo.

Go find a use for yourself.

[Zenlitened]

63. Projection. Again. Is that your whole act?

Every complaint you've aired describes you to a "T."

And I suspect you know it -- perhaps that's what has you in such a constant state of bitterness and rage.

What a grotesque.

And now all you've lot left is "go away go away go away." :eyes:

[Inland]

66. The Self Appointed Critic. That IS all you have. Pretentious twaddle.

You've got no positions, no function, except to pretend you are better than other people and able to critique them.

But you've nothing. Your posts are vapid, pretentious, self congratulatory. You wouldn't know an idea besides your own self importance if it bit you on the ass.

Go take a class and learn something. And don't raise your hand the first day, because you'll make an ass out of yourself. Perfesser.

[Beelzebud]

68. You are describing yourself to a T.

Vapid, pretentious, self congratulatory. That is YOU.

You have been making an ass of yourself for 48 hours now. Haven't you had enough? Or is there just no one to wish death upon today?

[Inland]

71. You forgot "jealous". Another politeness police heard from. nt

[Zenlitened]

73. Oh, this is too classic! Inland discussing politeness!

:rofl:

[Inland]

78. No, hypocrisy. Remember?

You're a hypocrite.

[Zenlitened]

80. "You're a hypocrite"... said the pretend progressive, while...

... wishing death on a guy for having an expensive hobby.

[Inland]

85. Yeah, I said you're a hypocrite. Nice reading. Do it more often

and you might have a purpose in life besides pretense and bullshit.

[Zenlitened]

89. Maybe I could join your "Progressive Hit Squad"?

Let's see... death to rich guys with expensive hobbies... death to gays... death to atheists... death to women who won't submit to bullying... death to intellectuals...

Anyone I miss? That's quite the record you've put together for yourself.

[Zenlitened]

69. Do you realize that your thread is about wishing a guy dead...

... for spending his own money on an adventure?

Do you even have a sense of your own history on DU? Even your own recent history?

Do you?

[Inland]

74. Why don't you find a history of your own, rather than critique mine?

Haven't you figured it out? You have nothing, no function. Go make your own history rather than parachute in and trying to critique mine. Go find a point beyond your self importance and your pretense to lecture ME on MY history according to YOUR judgment, as if I give a shit.

Go find a life. Somewhere else.

[Zenlitened]

75. Because your history is repugnant.

That's why.

Because your pretense at being a progressive Democrat is belied by everything you post.

That's why.

How you still have an account at DU is a wonderment beyond words.

[Inland]

82. Lectured by the Perfesser on history. And who asked? Nobody.

The Perfesser has no function but to pretend superiority and the right to lecture everyone else on the quality of their posts. That it requires hypocrisy and pretense to an intellectual standard the Perfesser can't achieve is of no concern for the Perfesser.

[Zenlitened]

84. Oh, so I do have a function now. Nice of you to concede that.

:hi:

[cry baby]

40. Ouch - wishing someone would die isn't nice.

And I know you're nicer than that! I liken his attempts to someone else trying to climb Mt. Everest - it's the personal struggle. What's wrong with a personal struggle?

[Inland]

95. Well, maybe. But the guy is in this risk my life mode

and spending millions of dollars, and it's all vanity.

At some point, I think it's a shameful waste.

[NYC Liberal]

47. A man takes a plane ride, and you think he should die. Nice.

:eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes:

[Joe Fields]

50. Personally, I admire Steve Fawcett.

And besides, I believe billionaire Richard Branson is bankrolling Mr. Fawcett.

[onenote]

53. so do you think everyone who climbs mountains should die too?

Maybe we should just support shooting anyone who tries to climb Everest. After all, its been done already so what's the point?


onenote

[Joe Fields]

54. I wish your posts would die. Your thoughts are certainly dead.

[Beelzebud]

57. Fossett must have ran over this person's dog, or pissed in their cereal.

I don't quite understand the hatred for this guy, for just doing something peaceful that didn't harm anyone...

[dysfunctional press]

61. why are so many people JEALOUS of someone else's money...?

and think that they have a right to decide how it should be sent...?

[WilliamPitt]

86. This thread is a piece of shit.

[LeftCoast]

96. Locking

This thread has had a good run and now it's time to end it.