GOP: “Friends, we’re in trouble." Meet the Press 2/5

[jazzjunkysue]

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11160479/

Tim Russert: Meet the Press, Feb 5th

"This was Congressman Paul Ryan from the Frist district of Wisconsin, “Friends, we’re in trouble. A poll was done last weekend in our 25 most vulnerable districts, and trust me it doesn’t look good.” And then this from Congressman Mark Souder from Indiana, “Duke Cunningham, Jack Abramoff and the ongoing and disgusting saga of abuse of power and public trust are not made up by the Democrats. We were put in power to be different. What has happened to us? Our entire philosophy is at risk because the American people, and even a large percent of our own supporters, think we have been corrupted as a party. Our re-election numbers are now lower than the Democrats’ were in ‘94. When voters in swing districts were asked, the two things they associated with our Republican Congress were Iraq and corruption.”

[deadparrot]

1. Crossing my fingers for November.

:bounce:

[Big Unit]

7. Do More Than Cross Fingers

Remember 30 days before the Nov. 04 prez election when the pollsters put Kerry ahead in the polls? How many of us stopped working, stopped going door-to-door and stopped staffing phone banks? While to soil may be fertile for Democrats this fall, we still have to work, work, and keep working that soil until the last vote is counted. Like Jimmy Valvano always said, "Don't quit, don't ever quit."

[deadparrot]

11. I'll be working...

probably for Claire McCaskill (Jim Talent's challenger) the most, but at the moment, we're so far out from the general election that the "wait-and-see" approach is the most I can do.

[Roho]

35. What?

Nobody I know stopped working their asses off because kerry was in the lead.

[guruoo]

39. Yeah, I can't remember that one either..

we left everything on the field

[Twist_U_Up]

40. Remember When Kerry won ?

And then Rove flipped the switch and the scummy little chimp mysteriously was ahead ???

[nolabels]

45. Please cross the wires at Diebold instead

I doubt the results of the last several elections and the thievery gets more blatant with every election stolen

[sellitman]

52. It will be another Republican landslide in 2006

If the machines aren't changed all these polls are worthless. Doen't anuyone get it by now? How many election do we have to loose before you get it?

[blm]

2. That's funny. All corporate news keep saying Dems in disarray

Dems in dissaray. Dems in disarray.

[seabeyond]

19. well i have been arguing blm as loud as i can. talked to a bunch of rich

pugs thursday night. told them they were corrupt, their party hijacked, and no one argued. talk to my father this morning. for the first time he sounded like he wasnt brainwashed by these people. started talking about hte history of politics in tx. bullock and delaney as state att? the ones that really run the state were moderate dems, they were good. the texas redistricting by repugs brought in the failure of their party.

for me to hear this from my father..... wow.

[blm]

22. Maybe that should be the approach for Texas - Remember when moderate Dems

were in charge?

[seabeyond]

24. absolutely. i just have to find the dems in amarillo

dont know where they are. we have a race going on march 7th i want the dems to become involved in. it has really become the christian right against mod repug in this area. awesome what i am seeing

[dubya_dubya_III]

30. Mostly because Howard Dean is the only one with a heartbeat

and most Dems have been too slow and stupid to speak up along with him. Sept 11 has done horrible damage to common sense and sensibility of this parties public image. If fear has become the tool of the religious fascist Tory-Conservative so-called 'republicans', then it must become ours as well.

The global religious fascist WW III our MI6-CIA Mafia has brewed up for us, and the MI6-CIA Reagan Bush Regimes have quite deliberately and unnecessarily engineered, escalated and repeatedly re-inflamed, now poses a vital, certain, real and present ever-deepening threat to the peace and security of this entire planet.


Jerusalem must become an independent City-State under a Tri-Faith Veto and this Palestinian turf nonsense must finally be resolved with a fair, just and workable partition for it's people.

Anything less is just purely ignorant irresponsibility. George Washington Ben Franklin and all our founding fathers were 'terrorists'.

Have we forgotten all about really why (Jerusalem) there is this 'war' with Islam?

[BikeWriter]

3. K&R

[jazzjunkysue]

17. Thanks!

[gizmo1979]

4. Hahahahah and I hate Paul Ryan.

See you in the unemployment line Paul.

[Nomen Tuum]

50. From the FRIST DISTRICT?

Welcome to newspeak...

[tridim]

5. "The American people...think we have been corrupted as a party"

Spoken as if they haven't been corrupted as a party, people just think they're corrupt. It sounds like Ryan really believes they aren't.

[Carla in Ca]

44. tridim, that part of the sentence struck me as odd

"the American people, and even a large percent of our own supporters"

So, I guess he is admitting they are UN american, right? lol!

[louis-t]

6. Your supporters 'think' you have been corrupted?

So it seems all Dems have to say for the next 2 years is "Iraq and corruption" when describing the despicable regime in power.

[Matariki]

8. Interesting, their "entire philosophy is at risk"

because of what the American public THINKS?

I think he needs to rephrase that to take responsibility. Not complain about perception.

[tanyev]

28. Maybe he needs to consider that the American public

doesn't like their philosophy.

:nopity:

[G_j]

9. "not made up by the Democrats"

:wow:

[jazzjunkysue]

18. What? And all this time, I thought I was crazy, the only one who knew

we didn't make it up!

It reveals their only political tactic: Make shit up, and then assume the Dems make shit up, too.

[Mythsaje]

10. When you hand excessive power

to a select group of people, they're bound to become corrupted.

Not to mention

"It's not so much that power corrupts, or even that absolute power corrupts absolutely, but that power attracts the corruptible."

Frank Herbert/the Dune series.

[Laelth]

12. It's working (because it's true)!

Repeat:

Culture of corruption ...
Culture of corruption ...
Culture of corruption ...
Culture of corruption ...
Culture of corruption ...
Culture of corruption ...
Culture of corruption ...
Culture of corruption ...

:bounce:

:dem:

-Laelth

[PBass]

13. The media loves a 'horse race"

they will make sure the GOP is competitive in November. That sells advertising timeslots.

I also won't be surprised to see some Dem candidates run wimpy, over-careful campaigns, and manage to lose in November.

[TankLV]

14. From their lips to God's ears.

I continually hope and pray for the extreme downfall of the entire corrupt repuke party.

And I continue to notice that JUST REPUKES are being convicted and charged with all these scandals!

So much for "bipartisan" scandal, huh!

[dogday]

15. Iraq and Corruption

Republicans can be mighty proud of this....

[Stephanie]

16. they "have been corrupted as a party."

thanks for the campaign slogan, Mr. Souder! :hi:

[glitch]

20. Does this mean the Texas Mafia won't have coat tails this season?

That can't be right, Karl Rove is a genius! :rofl:

[EVDebs]

21. Iraq and Corruption: Let's beat them with these two sticks 'till

the cows come home !

"...the two things they associated with our Republican Congress were Iraq and corruption."

[mzmolly]

29. Excellent suggestion. And, attack them at their so called strength

"PROTECTING US FROM TERRA."

[EVDebs]

48. Why they haven't captured OBL for example is illuminating....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2025401

Let's see, they can track your purchase of underwear from Wal-Mart using RFIDs and track you using GPS systems (especially if your car is post '96 model) and yet they just can't seem to track the kidney dialysis equipment OBL requires in his lair...seems fishy to me. They can terrorize you if they so desire for dissenting here in the states and then make it so you'll never work again with 'background checks'.

Not only that, but TIA was offshored to Global Information Group Ltd. in the Bahamas. Freepers will enjoy being told about this on the upcoming campaign trails. Ya think ? Also, be sure to mention Rex 84 and 'suspension of the Constitution' by Ollie North & Co. It wipes the smile right off their faces.

[mzmolly]

49. You said it.

"They" need Osama - he is the great boogyman.

[EVDebs]

51. Another interesting article on RFIDs and Passports

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/003486.php

Gives new meaning to 'don't leave home without it'. BTW, credit cards are now being embedded with such devices already.

And this link in DU is downright scary, about RFID injections

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=226x4287

WTF ?

[megatherium]

23. I hope my congressional district, Indiana-9, can be turned.

That's Lee Hamilton's old district, traditionally conservative Democratic. His protege Barron Hill served for three terms but won re-election by a razor-thin margin two elections ago. The next election (2004), his district was identified as the most vulnerable Democratic district in the country by the Republicans. They channeled $3.1 million to that district, defeating Hill in another razor-thin margin (1500 votes out of 150,000). The guy who won (Mike Sodrel) is a cultural conservative and a high school graduate, who owns a trucking company.

Now Hill is running to regain his old seat. It would be sweet if he could win.

[gratuitous]

25. "Friends, we're in trouble"

Isn't it odd that Ryan would use this locution in addressing Pumpkinhead? "Friend," indeed. But not a friend in need.

[tlsmith1963]

26. If They Hadn't...

...hooked up with the neocons, they wouldn't be in this mess. But they just *had* to do it. They were so determined to destroy us (the liberals) that they weren't paying attention to the fact that their new "friends" were a bunch of fascists. If they lose a lot in November, it will be their own fault.

Tammy

[gordianot]

27. But the corruption is so very good it extends to elections.

[DanCa]

31. "The American people and even a large percent of our own supporters"

I love that see the GOP aren't Americans'. :rofl:

[Uncle Joe]

32. Here is the money line

"Our entire philosophy is at risk because the American people, and even a large percent of our own supporters, think we have been corrupted as a party."

Now why would he make a distinction between the American People and their own supporters, aren't they supposed to be one and the same?

[NobleCynic]

46. Cripes!

Sometimes a turn of phrase is just a turn of phrase. Unclear grammatical structure doesn't indicate anything other than a poor choice of words. This is not an admission of guilt, just a differentiation between subsets and supersets. Do you believe Republican supporters and the American people are one and the same? I didn't think so. His supporters are a subset of the American people. No hidden meanings here, just a poor choice of words.

The only real mistake in his wording is saying the American people "think" instead of "know"

[Uncle Joe]

55. I understand what you are saying, however

I also believe this mentality is part of our national problem, that we are experiencing under the Bush administration, it's that us against them thing, it's why Bush is so determined to protect the top 1% of wage earners tax cut while the rest of the nation goes to hell in a hand basket. It's why Bush believes the other branches of Government do not matter, unless of course he is going to court to keep the American People's vote from being counted. Had the congressional Republicans been thinking of them selves as Americans as opposed to Republicans during the 2000 count, I doubt they would have sent their aides to Florida to stage their mini riot and intimidate the vote counters from doing their American job and count the votes. I view it more as a Freudian Slip, and actually yes, I believe the Republican Party supporters and the American People are one and the same, just as I believe the Democratic Party supporters and the American People are one and the same, and that also includes any third party supporters for that matter.

When Al Gore for example spoke on M.L.K. day, he was speaking and thinking of the American People, not just the Democratic Party. I believe if the rest of the political leaders in all parties were to do the same, we would be much better off as a nation.

[banana republican]

33. If the Foo Shits Wear It

Once upon a time there was a bird called the Foo.

It was a very dangerious bird; because it tended to shit over all of its enemies. If you washed the Foo shit off you died.

Moral of the story:

If the Foo shits wear it....

[AndyA]

34. And there's so much more to be revealed!

The poll numbers for Republicans may not even register, or be within the margin of error, by the time elections roll around.

Wiretapping. Spying. Overtaking an innocent country. Lying. Cronyism. Torture. Conspiracy. Leaking top secrets.

Could be a great movie, but it's happening today in America, courtesy of the Bush Administration and the Republican Party.

[bvar22]

36. The Dems NEED to grab this opportunity....

...to Drive a Stake through the Black Heart of Compassionate Conservatism

NOW is the time to LEAD a reform movement, not sit on your ass!

In recent polls by the Pew Research Group, the Opinion Research Corporation, the Wall Street Journal, and CBS News, the American majority has made clear how it feels. Look at how the majority feels about some of the issues that you'd think would be gospel to a real Democratic party:
1. 65 percent say the government should guarantee health insurance for everyone -- even if it means raising taxes.

2. 86 percent favor raising the minimum wage (including 79 percent of selfdescribed "social conservatives").

3. 60 percent favor repealing either all of Bush's tax cuts or at least those cuts that went to the rich.

4. 66 percent would reduce the deficit not by cutting domestic spending but by reducing Pentagon spending or raising taxes.

5. 77 percent believe the country should do "whatever it takes" to protect the environment.

6. 87 percent think big oil corporations are gouging consumers, and 80 percent (including 76 percent of Republicans) would support a windfall profits tax on the oil giants if the revenues went for more research on alternative fuels.

7. 69 percent agree that corporate offshoring of jobs is bad for the U.S. economy (78 percent of "disaffected" voters think this), and only 22% believe offshoring is good because "it keeps costs down."

8. 69 percent believe America is on the wrong track, with only 26 percent saying it's headed in the right direction…

The Democrats NEED to grab these issues AS A PARTY and march back into power in DC!

[NewJeffCT]

37. I could deal with a 25 seat pickup in the House

Don't we need less than that to get the majority back?

[marions ghost]

38. enough trouble

that even Diebold can't fix...
:kick: :kick: :kick:

[progressoid]

41. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha..........ha.

[Talismom]

42. ...but don't worry fellow GOP, we still have Diebold! n/t

[sellitman]

53. Bingo!

Glad to see at least one of my fellow DUers get it.

[EstimatedProphet]

43. Pigf*cker Russert is speaking on Campus in March

Should I go see him?

[IndyOp]

47. The GOP is *not* in trouble - they own voting machines!! (nt)

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

[Marr]

54. They've always been corrupt. It's the unchecked power that people are

beginning to wake up to.