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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 12:05 PM
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VIDEO- Roberts Says Bush is above laws of Congress
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 12:07 PM
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1. yup, that's what he said all right. Then he said everybody does it.
all the presidents he knows, that is...Washington, Lincoln, Wilson, Roosevelt...
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 12:09 PM
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2. Yeah . . .
. . . it's just an old law. . . like that stuff in the Constitution or that old dusty 10 commandment stuff.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 12:09 PM
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3. Roberts wins the Chimpy Excusenik Award of the day
...so far...
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 12:28 PM
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4. Pardon my ignorance, but which cockroach is Roberts? n/t
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 12:28 PM
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5. Pat Roberts, head of the Intelligence Committee
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 12:33 PM
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6. the bald horrible Bush-cheerleading & covering-up Senator from Kansas
nothing against baldness, just differentiating between him and Brownback, who has lots of shiny beautiful hair and is a religious WACKO

Roberts:






Brownback

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WearyOne2 Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 12:38 PM
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who needs laws ?
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WearyOne2 Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 12:38 PM
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7. who needs laws ?
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 12:43 PM
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8. Some truths we must repeat, and repeat, and repeat. . .
Edited on Sun Feb-12-06 12:44 PM by pat_k
Lincoln went to Congress to ratify the suspension of habeas. He recognized the superiority of Congress "and made it clear that he was ready to answer for any violations of the law if Congress didn't back him up." http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/237931in.html

Roosevelt pushed the bounds of executive power, but he too recognized that the executive branch must submit to the will of the people codified in the Constitution and acts of Congress. He believed that "it was not only his right but his duty to do anything that the needs of the nation demanded unless such action was forbidden by the Constitution or by the laws.". http://www.let.rug.nl/usa/E/teddy/teddyxx.htm

References to the assertion of executive authority in areas that the law is unclear have NO bearing on the assertion of executive authority in direct violation of the law.

The notion that the 1973 war powers act (which was passed by Congress and can be revoked or radically altered by them) empowers the President to IGNORE subsequent acts/resolutions of Congress is INSANE. You don't even need to have ever heard of the war powers act to know that absolute power like that is NEVER freely given to a leader; it is only taken by force.

Principles they attempt to obscure with their fascist fantasies

Contrary to their fascist fantasies, the three branches of Government DO NOT share power equally.

The balance of powers FAVORS Congress; the Voice of the People.

When we established our Constitution for the United States of America, we yielded NONE of our Sovereignty to ANY institution we created, but we did vest more power in Congress than the Judiciary or the Executive. As OUR VOICE it is only right that Congress has more power.

How do we know we gave Congress more power? Simple. We gave Congress the Power to Impeach the President and members of the Judiciary. (The President and the Judiciary Can’t Impeach Congress).

Of course, it is possible for the laws we pass to address specific problems to conflict with the tenets of our Constitution. We have given the power to resolve those conflicts to the Judiciary, but that power can never TRUMP trump Congressional Action. The Court is simply serving as an institution that insures the laws WE establish are consistent with the guiding principles WE establish. They are not TRUMPING our will, they are ensuring that -- as we strive for a more perfect union -- our laws are the most accurate reflection of our will that can be achieved in an imperfect world.

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 12:45 PM
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9. give that boy some more of that there kool-aid, he's almost over the top.

Thanks as always. I have a hard time wrapping my little brain around how we have been duped into letting people like roberts, bush* hell the list goes on and on, to be our leaders. If these mo' fokker are smart I don't ever wanta' see another smart polition:sarcasm: if you know what I mean.
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