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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:04 PM
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The Right Is Finally Getting PISSED
Two things that seem evident to me now based on the FLOOD of bad news for the administration last week:

1. The right is not happy with Cheney being implicated in PlameGate
2. The right is not happy with Bush's speech last week about the faux-foiled attack... they seem to smell the B.S. on this

Even right-wing columnists are beginning to question the authority of the NSA domestic spying and it's worthiness to anti-terrorism.

Republican senators seemed almost as upset and as critical as Democratic Senators during the NSA hearings with Gonzales.

Bush's credibility is at an all-time LOW (more people believe former FEMA head Brown than Bush).

Many conservatives are NOT as hawkish on going to war with Iran as they were with Iraq, an indication that they don't trust the Bush administration to effectively carry out another military operation now.

Will the right wake up in time to do something about it?
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:06 PM
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1. Will the right wake up in time? No. They can't back away from their
corrupt pResident. They've invested too much in the asswipe.
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Dr. Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:07 PM
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2. however...
my Bush-worshipping brothers in law and mother in law REFUSE to believe ANYTHING negative about Bush, chalking all criticism up to the "liberal media" and the "fact" that the Dems would do anything to get back in power. Now with other prominent Repubs beginning to criticize Bush, I wonder, will they continue to grasp at the last remaining straws at the altar of Bush?
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:20 PM
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9. Hello, Doctor! Welcome to DU!
We have lots of good DUers up your way! Check us out in the Texas forum.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:23 PM
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10. Welcome, Dr. Jones!
:hi:
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Dr. Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:06 PM
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19. Thank you
for the warm welcome!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 07:16 PM
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24. Welcome to DU!
:hi:
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Road Scholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:51 PM
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16. Did ya ever wonder if Fox News had a brain deadening
effect?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 07:16 PM
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23. What do you think?
They'll just call those people traitors.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:08 PM
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3. I watched the McLaughlin group
That was a total flame out, the LA kung fu shoebomb plot was not foiled in this country,
NSA had nothing whatsoever to do with it. They thought this was a total bait and switch
by Team Bush.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:08 PM
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4. Why do you think KKKarl Rove was threatening Senators in the NSA hearings
It was for fear of them realizing how fucked up they let the nation become.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:10 PM
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5. Yes, I forgot about his threats and blackmail
A sign that they are losing their tight grip on Congress (with DeLay out of the way as leader and Abramoff about to rat out the corruption, they have no way to control the lawmakers anymore)
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:11 PM
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6. Once they assume the right agrees with their lies and crimes...
and will defend them in their misdeeds, they are over. The only reason the right supports them is because they believe what they say. They think their way is the principled and correct path. Once they are asked to go along, even if it is wrong, they have lost their support. Their ignorance has its limits.
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:14 PM
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7. I just typed "bush" into google news
Edited on Sun Feb-12-06 03:17 PM by oxbow
It was great to see all those chickens finally coming home to roost. Nothing but trouble as far as the eye can see for him. I hope that they don't set him up to take the fall alone though. Cheney and Rove have done much more damage, and I gues its up to Fitzgerald if they are held accountable or not.

edit for speling ;)
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:20 PM
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8. If there's a crack in the Republican veneer, how can it be exploited?
Edited on Sun Feb-12-06 03:21 PM by Fridays Child
We have precious few advantages--really, just our wits and that's it. So, if there truly is a turning of sentiment, how can we use it to help our cause?
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:27 PM
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12. Find the wedge. drive a pickup through it.
Edited on Sun Feb-12-06 03:27 PM by oxbow
the wedge might be immigration. It might be spying. Maybe it's the whole bush admin.! Big business and religious fundamentalists have made strange bedfellows from the beginning though. Now its time to turn on the light and show our fundie friends who they've been laying down with.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:35 PM
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13. cracks do not heal with time. To the contrary, they grow larger.
If the foundation is rotting away, even a great patching job will soon show even greater cracks.

The original GOP, the ones who cared about the country and not their pockets, (the few who still exist) have more in common with us than with their so-called admin team-mates. They hate the budget deficits, the Iraqi war, the lies to the American people, the spying on US citizens. They may have different solutions, ones I do not agree with nor subscribe to, but their goals are the safety and well-being of our country. At least with these folks, we can talk and compromise.
WIth the bush leaguers, that is impossible.

As I consider just how the neocons are squealing like greased pigs, and even people like Newt the Grinch are complaining about their own, something good must be happening.
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Road Scholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:49 PM
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15. They are like a flat tire. They just don't fix themselves. eom
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:51 PM
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17. Can we afford to just let it happen, though? Don't we need to act...
Edited on Sun Feb-12-06 03:52 PM by Fridays Child
...before it's too late? Our federal government has all the earmarks of fascism. How close are we to totalitarianism?

The illusion of freedom in America will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way, and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theatre.--Frank Zappa, 1977
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:55 PM
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18. that indeed is the question. On its own, their house of cads and cards
will collapse. Can we survive until then? Or will the newly grown powers decide that they like being there?
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:24 PM
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11. Good lord .. How much BS does it take
for the republicans to wake up and
realize they are waist deep in the stuff ??

That said... I am thankful that thinking Republicans
are beginning to awake from their slumber.
Bush is just as bad for them as he is for us.

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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 06:54 PM
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20. It's taken enough B.S. till they're up to their noses in it...
But I THINK they've finally started smelling it...
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 03:46 PM
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14. Republican voters started waking up a while ago ...
... Bush's poll numbers didn't start dropping yesterday; it's a steady trend.

Former Bush voters and supporters are paying the same high prices for gas and heating fuel as the rest of us. They're seeing record profits for Big Oil, and a president who is doing nothing to stop the insanity.

They're seeing their children's schools deteriorating, their elderly relatives not being able to get prescription drugs, their own jobs being outsourced, their medical coverage disintigrating ...

As for their last bitter hope in clinging to this Admiistration, the concept that BushCo would keep them safe from a terrorist attack, well that idea drowned right along with NOLA.

It's not the Dems who will bring this Administration down - it's the middle class, from both sides of the aisle, who have finally collectively had enough.

I've said this before: If you think WE hate Bushco, we have seen through their lies from day one, how do you think THEIR PREVIOUS SUPPORTERS out there feel, knowing they've been betrayed by the man they put so much faith in?

The tide has already turned. I'm just sitting back and enjoying watching the waves of discontent and anger grow higher every minute.

:popcorn:
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 07:12 PM
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21. The shit we have been inundated
with by this piss face and the fact that it hasn't already reached the mutiny stage yet reminds me of a classic Candid Camera episode.

Do you remember when they put a 40 gallon gas tank on their Volkswagon? The guys started filling it...it kept going, kept going, kept going. They were looking at the pump, pulling out the hose to see if gas was running, looking underneath the car, scratching their heads, looking for gas on the ground. It just kept going in.

How damn on the money is that example now.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 07:16 PM
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22. Hell no
The people who can are too busy with their heads up Bush's ass. They can whine and bitch etc. all they want and look "normal" but I'm not buying it. Why weren't they crying and whining when we knew there were no WMD's? When everyone else was screaming about it? And if all these people are upset and still don't vote democratic in the midterms they've lost me ever listening to anything they have to say.
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 07:23 PM
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25. Some of them seem to condemn * briefly, and think perhaps that
is sufficient.

George Will is a good example. He varies month to month on This Week With George Steph's roundtable.

Today he wasn't so nice to shrub.

Next month, week? Who knows or cares at this point?

What we gotta do is regroup, gather our collective energies and make our grassroots opinions, demands etc in opposition to Alito look like a tiny little wave by comparison to the tsunami of emails, phone calls, letters, petitions, etc begun as early as possible. All expressing outrage, all demanding that the executive branch be held accountible, be brought down to earth to the level of power they ought to have, and if it seems reasonable (like there's much doubt) impeach the whole lot of them.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 08:06 PM
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26. Kick(nt)
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 08:17 PM
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27. Republicans are . . . ANGRY???
But, but, but . . . I thought it was the Democrats. Tell me it ain't so.:rofl:
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