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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:32 PM
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It's *already* being spun to be Whittington's fault he was shot
"Armstrong said she was watching from a car while Cheney, Whittington and another hunter got out of the vehicle to shot at a covey of quail late afternoon on Saturday.

Whittington shot a bird and went to look for it in the tall grass, while Cheney and the third hunter walked to another spot and found a second covey.

Whittington "came up from behind the vice president and the other hunter and didn't signal them or indicate to them or announce himself," Armstrong told the Associated Press in an interview.

"The vice president didn't see him," she continued. "The covey flushed and the vice president picked out a bird and was following it and shot. And by god, Harry was in the line of fire and got peppered pretty good"


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060212/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cheney_hunting_accident



I like this part of the article:

"Fortunately, the vice president has got a lot of medical people around him and so they were right there and probably more cautious than we would have been," she said. "The vice president has got an ambulance on call, so the ambulance came."
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:33 PM
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1. Well, if you lie down with dogs...
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:08 PM
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31. But they couldn't. Apparently no self-respecting retriever would go along
Whittington had to go retrieve his own birds. It makes me wonder how many dogs Cheney has killed.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:33 PM
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2. How nice, Cheney shoots the guy then lets him use his ambulance. . .
:kick:
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:37 PM
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12. Poor guy will
probably be billed for the ride. :eyes:

Mz Pip
:dem:
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:33 PM
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3. This is a woman who used to be an ambassador for Nixon
I forget what country she served in.

But the whole family are longtime GOP sycophants.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:37 PM
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10. She's also a registered lobbyist
Edited on Sun Feb-12-06 04:40 PM by Steve_DeShazer
http://clerk.house.gov/pd/houseID.html?reg_id=37009

on edit: And a Bush "Pioneer"

<snip>

Warren Idsal and Katharine Armstrong both worked for major investment firms at the time of their 1982 wedding, with the Paine Webber (see Joseph Grano) groom marrying a Smith Barney bride. During the 2000 Bush campaign the then-married couple still romantically shared a common Pioneer tracking number. Katharine is the daughter of Pioneer Tobin Armstrong, an heir to the fabled Armstrong and King Ranch fortunes. Her mother, Anne Armstrong, who is Kay Bailey Hutchison’s best friend, helped launch the senator’s career as Republican National Committee co-chair in 1971. As Texas Treasurer in the early 1990s, Kay Bailey Hutchison returned the favor by hiring Armstrong’s son-in-law, Warren Idsal, as a top aide. But Hutchison fired him after a short tenure. Warren Idsal also was an executive at health and life insurer United Insurance Companies (UICI) for several years in the late 1990s. Then-Governor George W. Bush appointed Katharine Idsal to the Texas Parks and Wildlife Commission in 1999. The Idsals divorced and Katharine reclaimed her maiden name after Bush’s gubernatorial successor appointed Katharine chair of the commission. This heir apparent to the Armstrong Ranch resigned her state post in 2003, citing her need to make a living for her three children. Armstrong cited lobbying as one possible career move.

source: http://www.whitehouseforsale.org/ContributorsAndPaybacks/pioneer_profile.cfm?pioneer_ID=622
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:34 PM
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4. So many people in this country without health care and....
Cheney has a lot of medical people around and an ambulance on call, even when he is out killing little birds. This is just not right.
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:37 PM
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13. what ever happened to reality???
What planet is this???

Where's my medicine???

:freak:
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:35 PM
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5. He's so f'ed up, physically, that an ambulance shadows him. Gee.
Of course, last week's revelations from Scooter probably didn't do anything to improve his blood pressure. Damn that trigger finger, anyway.
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fiveleafclover Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:00 PM
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26. What a wonderful world it would be
if everyone with health problems could have an ambulance follow them around everywhere they go.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:35 PM
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6. So, 78 year old men can move faster than shot from a gun?
Did he LEAP into the path of the shot to save the bird? Was he wearing a cape & mask, cuz most mortals can't move fast enough to get into the path of a carefully planned shot.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:35 PM
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7. Whittington related to al-Zawahri
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:36 PM
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8. This is great for the late night comics
Fucking Cheney. He's a trip.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:36 PM
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9. Whittington helped Bush cover up Funeral Gate
Why wouldn't he help cover up for Cheney now?

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:37 PM
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11. ANNOUNCE himself???
Everybody in the party would have shot him for scaring off the prey.

Who the hell ARE these people who come up with this crap?

That heartles son of a bitch needed to make sure the field was clear before he fired.

He's a menace, it seems, even in his leisure time.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:43 PM
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21. Yeah, no shit..lol
"HEY GUYS...I'M RIGHT BEHIND YOU!"....
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:43 PM
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22. Hä???
"came up from BEHIND???" So the dick had to turn around to shoot him???
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fiveleafclover Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:01 PM
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27. That's what I've been thinking
Also, and I don't go around shooting birds so maybe I don't know, but don't birds fly up in the air? How tall is this guy?
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:05 PM
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30. My thoughts too
Edited on Sun Feb-12-06 05:07 PM by Mabus
Otherwise this Whittington guy is pretty spry to sneaking around so stealthily that no one was aware of him. The only other explanation is that he is like Invisible Boy from "Mystery Men" - he's invisible when no one is looking.
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DeaconBlues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:37 PM
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14. Good God, they don't even hike out in the woods to do their killing
I'm surprised they didn't just wind down the window..
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:28 PM
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35. Hand crank window for the Repukes, I am sure they would be automatics.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:38 PM
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15. How many VPs have had an ambulance on call?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:39 PM
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16. they're gonna regret revealing the ambulance on call
People already think Cheney is half dead.
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FormerRepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:48 PM
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24. I think he's ALL dead.
:)
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:41 PM
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17. I'm not a hunter but aren't you supposed see the critter
Before you start blasting?

Sounds like ol'Deadeye dick tends to shoot first and think later.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:41 PM
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18. That's where the gun safety and safe, responsible hunting
practices come into being. Apparently Cheney doesn't know what that is.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:41 PM
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19. I'm sorry but that doesn't fly...I was raised around guns and hunters
and one of the first things you learn is DO NOT shoot unless you are absolutely positive what you are shooting at! If this guy was out there and Cheney didn't know where he was, he should not have taken the shot period. You don't even aim unless you are willing to destroy whatever is out there. This is Cheney's fault no excuse.:wtf: :banghead:
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fiveleafclover Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:02 PM
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29. Like Cheney gives a shit about the safety of others. nt
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 07:35 PM
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39. Cheney better watch out -- the guy he shot is a lawyer. If I were a
lawyer and woke up in my hospital bed to hear on the news that getting shot was MY fault, I'd be calling my own lawyer tout suite.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:41 PM
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20. Is WHITTINGTON an Illegal Alien? n/t
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Mr.Green93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:48 PM
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23. If hunters were licensed
and tested for proficiency this may not have happened.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:58 PM
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25. Armstrong Ranch .. Bu$h Pioneer Country with big ties to Halliburton
Pioneer Tobin Armstrong’s ancestor, Texas Ranger John B. Armstrong, bought the beginnings of the Armstrong Ranch in 1882 with the $4,000 bounty he received for capturing outlaw John Wesley Hardin. In 1944 Tobin’s older brother wed an heir of legendary King Ranch (see Fausto Yturria), linking two of the biggest ranches in Texas. The Armstrong Ranch has since gone global, with tracts in Australia and South America. In recent years, Tobin and his wife, Anne, have hosted many GOP dignitaries--including the first and second President Bush--on their 50,000-acre Armstrong Ranch in South Texas. “We go out when the dew is still on the grass, and then hunt until we shoot our limit,” Tobin said in 2000 of his ranch outings with Dick Cheney. “Then we pick a fine spot and have a wild game picnic lunch.” True conservatives might choke on their javelina steaks if they knew that Tobin Armstrong dunned the government for $11,336 in farm subsidies between 1995 and 2002, according to the Environmental Working Group. Anne Armstrong served as: a close advisor to President Nixon; President Ford’s British Ambassador; and approved covert actions on the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board under Reagan. A veteran of blue-chip corporate boards, Anne Armstrong was a Halliburton director when that corporation hired Cheney. She is Kay Bailey Hutchison’s best friend, having helped launch the senator’s career as Republican National Committee co-chair in 1971. George W. Bush appointed Anne Armstrong as a Texas A&M regent in 1997. She and her husband were part of Laura Bush’s delegation to the funeral of Queen Mother Elizabeth in 2002. As a Kenedy County Commissioner in 2001, Tobin Armstrong expressed serious reservations about a short-lived Bush administration plan to relocate a Navy bomb-testing site from Puerto Rico to the fragile sand dunes of a local beach. Daughter Katharine Armstrong--formerly Katherine Idsal--and ex-son-in-law Warren Idsal also are Pioneers. President Bush invited Tobin, Anne and Katharine Armstrong to a White House sleepover.

http://www.whitehouseforsale.org/ContributorsAndPaybacks/pioneer_profile.cfm?pioneer_ID=509


The 50,000-acre Armstrong Ranch is owned by Tobin and Anne Armstrong, not by their daughter Katherine as reported on CNN and MSRNC. Anne Armstrong is the former Anne Cox, heiress to the Cox Communication dynasty in Atlanta. Anne Cox Armstrong and her sister Barbara Cox Anthony, who resides in Hawaii, are perennial top finishers in lists of the world's richest women (usually in the top five behind the Queen of England). Both sisters have vacation homes in Aix-en-Provence in the south of France. To meet their demanding travel schedules, Anne and Barbara (and their families) have a fleet of Gulfstrean V bizjets at their call.


Gulfstream V

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Keseys Ghost Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:02 PM
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28. If you lay with dogs...
you might get shot.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:16 PM
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32. Very interesting info
Thanks for posting this. :thumbsup:
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Retrograde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:18 PM
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33. What do we tell the children
when they read in the paper that the Veep goes around shooting people, and they ask why they can't do it?

(I'm trying to paraphrase what the unloyal opposition said about Clinton and Lewinsky)
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ucmike Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:25 PM
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34. this whole thing has a simpsons/mr. burns feel to it
cheney as burns, some lackey as mr. smithers.

Cheney: "Smithers, help me to shoot that large quail in the hunting vest."
Lackey: "Uh, Mr. Cheney, That's Mr. Whittington, he's one of your biggest donors, sir."
Cheney: "Nonsense!"
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U4ikLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:33 PM
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36. The shooting sounds like his foreign policy
He aims his weaponry at a target in haste...and innocent people get hurt.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:36 PM
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37. Ready... fire... aim
Yup
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:40 PM
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38. Fox News reporting Cheney's shotgun pellets in stable condition
after the pellets were violently attacked by a terrorist who intercepted them in mid-air.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 07:37 PM
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40. These folks are responsible for nothing. I'd say man shooting gun wrong.
man getting shot wronged.
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