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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 09:23 AM
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Remember when Kerry went hunting?




MALVEAUX: And of course, Soledad, not to miss an opportunity perhaps to rib Kerry, yesterday being Halloween, we saw coming off of Air Force One, the president's top political advisers, Karl Rove, Karen Hughes, and Dan Bartlett, all wearing camouflage, making fun, poking fun a little bit at Kerry for that duck hunting trip that created quite a bit of stir, as well as a few jokes, as well.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0411/01/ltm.01.html

And, note the posts from Freepers from back then, including this:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1264334/posts

Just a reminder, for the coming backlash...
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 09:30 AM
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1. Yes. When he saved humanity from a ferocious goose.
One of the dumbest displays of pandering to the right-wing redneck voters ever perpetrated.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 09:33 AM
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5. Well, my point was how the rightwing ridiculed him
as if he were an inept hunter -- if Democrats ridicule Cheney now, you can bet the wingers will go ballistic, so to speak... Imagine if Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid showed up in Elmer Fudd costumes.

Just pointing out the hypocrisy, that's all.

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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 09:58 AM
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16. Thank you, I understood your point. n/t
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:22 AM
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24. ROFL!
Elmer Fudd costumes. :rofl: Oh how I wish they would, that would be hilarious! :rofl:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 09:34 AM
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 09:41 AM
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9. Yes. Killing geese for the camera is soooo "liberal".
Of course, "our" politicians would never stoop to such things. BTW..I can get you a good deal on an attractive bridge in Brooklyn.

I don't consider being a hunter for 50 years or being an "expert" marksman qualifications for the presidency.

How DLCish of you to defend pandering politicians.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 09:48 AM
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10. Lifelong hunters who stick to the rules of hunting and environmentalism
Edited on Mon Feb-13-06 09:51 AM by blm
and rack up strong lifelong records of progressive voting and anti-corruption efforts are now people to be mocked and shunned to you and cannot be considered liberal?

Then run against him, if you think he's a threat to the world.

How narrow-minded to exclude all hunters from being liberals and challenge my liberal creds, to boot.

Why don't you just try answering the question posed to you - YOU claimed it was pandering and refused to factor in the TRUTH that he hunted for 50yrs, and so you change the attack to suit another analysis of yours that claims that hunters cannot be liberals.

VERY narrow-minded, imo.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 12:08 PM
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26. There is a difference between being broadminded and naive.
Your alleged broadmindedness smacks of lockstep devotion to those with a (D) behind their names.

I still claim that a politician, in an election year, strutting around in camis and displaying his "manliness" by murdering a goose, is pandering and posing.

Just as I don't buy the lame excuse that he (and the other sellouts) voted only to "authorize the use of force" when he voted for the war.

What in the hell are "liberal creds"?

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 01:35 PM
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27. He wasn't strutting manliness, he was doing what he's done for 50yrs.
I hardly have a "devotion" for all Ds, but, I also don't have a pathological obsession AGAINST all Ds.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:05 AM
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18. The thing with liberals is we are suppose to welcome and embrace
other points of view and be more excepting of deviations from our standard platform. For example, I hate hunting, but I respect Senator kerry's right to hunt.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:19 AM
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22. The point is
Kerry is an avider hunter. Just because cameras were there doesn't mean it's a "photo-op." Just like with Kerry windsurfing or whatever. He's been doing it for years and he even eats his own food he kills.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 09:58 AM
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15. What's wrong with trying to reach voters who share a common
interest? He wasn't pandering- he actually does hunt.The Repubs would have jumped on this no matter what. He was taking on one of their bread and butter issues. I never did see what the big deal was with this photo-op reach out. So what, someone else was holding the kill.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:20 AM
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23. I think with that
Kerry was trying to show how he is friendly with guns and he's one too. Remember the republicans have been good at stating the democrats will take away your guns and other nonsense along with your Bible's. :eyes: So Kerry, I think, was showing them he's fine with hunting and the second amendment.
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montana500 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:02 AM
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17. not everyone who hunts is a redneck.....
and hunters are key to getting red states back.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:18 AM
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21. Oh that is such BS
Kerry is an avid hunter just like he is an athlete. :eyes: Kerry has even hunted his own Thanksgiving dinner. It was either last year or year before.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 09:31 AM
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2. Now I am angry all over again!! n/t
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neverevergivein Donating Member (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 09:32 AM
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3. It would have been better
if they'd have carried Rove out of the marsh
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 09:33 AM
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4. Yeah...he managed to avoid shooting people. n/t
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 09:35 AM
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7. Thank you for the timely reminder of their childish display. Maybe...
...Keith will pick up on it, tonight.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 09:36 AM
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8. I Noticed That GMA Used Dick's Fuck Up To Bash Kerry,
who knows proper hunting techniques and etiquette. Sickening.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 09:53 AM
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13. And Safety, the most important part of going anywhere with a gun. nt
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 09:49 AM
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11. And how quickly they forget Smirky's foray into hunting
Edited on Mon Feb-13-06 09:55 AM by deminks
during a campaign in Texas, he bagged a protected bird, a killdeer, instead of a dove. Had to turn in it and beg forgiveness, which of course was granted.

George W. Bush demonstrated his shotgun approach to environmental policy early in his campaign against Ann Richards. While trying to prove he could shoot doves with the best of them, Bush accidentally gunned down an innocent killdeer, which is not a game bird and looks nothing like a dove. Bush was required to pay a fine for the killdeer incident. Since then, he's decided to pretty much stay inside and only talk about "environment" when the word "business" precedes it. Even the Dallas Morning News, a bastion of conservatism and long a staunch Bush ally, has criticized Bush for his lack of environmental fortitude. On April 12, Timothy O'Leary, a columnist and editorial writer for the paper, penned an op-ed piece blaming Bush for the deteriorating air quality in the Dallas area. "As a consequence of your foot dragging, Dallas-Fort Worth faces the very real prospect of federal sanctions, including restrictions on business development and the denial of highway funds."

http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/vol18/issue39/pols.overview.html
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:11 AM
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19. THANK YOU! This was driving me NUTS!
I knew one of the two of those fools shot a bird they weren't supposed to years ago... but I thought the bird was an osprey and that cheney was the shooter
(I had my ospreys mixed up...Cheney's osprey intrigue was with military equipment)

Anyway this has been driving me crazy all morning!

Thanks for refreshing my memory!
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 09:51 AM
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12. The Bush-Cheny people looked like fools in those getups.
All Cheney could do was make fun of Kerry's purported "new" camo jacket. The other men in the photo look like they have on "new" jackets too or maybe Kerry takes care of his clothes. Since when has Bush or Cheney appeared wearing something old?


Cheney's comments:
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In the final stages of the 2004 campaign, Cheney mocked the way Democratic presidential nominee Senator John F. Kerry went on a hunting trip.
''He wore a brand new camouflage jacket for the occasion, which makes you wonder just how often he does really go goose hunting," Cheney said, according to a White House transcript. ''My personal opinion was his camo jacket was an October disguise. . . . But, my fellow sportsmen, this coverup isn't going to work because you and I know the Second Amendment is more than just another photo opportunity."

The Houston Chronicle has reported that there were 29 hunting-related accidents in Texas in 2004, with four fatalities.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/02/13/cheney_accidentally_shoots_hunting_partner/?page=2
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:27 AM
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25. Oh yes
Someone getting a new hunting jacket is proof he doesn't hunt! :sarcasm:

Oh brother! Oh maybe someone gave it to him as a gift? :eyes: Or as you said maybe he keeps his clothes nice and neat and hangs up his coat in a closet on a hanger instead of leaving it lying around. He did wear that same brown jacket throughout the fall.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 09:56 AM
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14. Kerry Looked Natural
the GOPers look like posers. But then again WE KNOW for a Fact that they are posers. Rich elite posers....
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:16 AM
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20. I remember reading either last year or in 2004
Edited on Mon Feb-13-06 10:17 AM by FreedomAngel82
Kerry even hunted his own Thanksgiving dinner and didn't shoot anybody. I remember when Kerry went hunting all the rightwingers were like "oh it's just a photo-op!" :eyes: Oh brother. He even has a cute little dog. Did Cheney have a dog with the group? If not that's quite strange. My cousin she is very into hunting with her husband and they have a dog that goes with them. :shrug:
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