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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:46 AM
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UN Report: US Is Torturing Prisoners
UN Report: US Is Torturing Prisoners

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/021306Z.shtml
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-gitmo13feb13,0,7562292,full.story?coll=la-home-headlines

A draft United Nations report on the detainees at Guantanamo Bay concludes that the US treatment of them violates their rights to physical and mental health and, in some cases, constitutes torture.
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New York - A draft United Nations report on the detainees at Guantanamo Bay concludes that the US treatment of them violates their rights to physical and mental health and, in some cases, constitutes torture.

It also urges the United States to close the military prison in Cuba and bring the captives to trial on U.S. territory, charging that Washington's justification for the continued detention is a distortion of international law.

The report, compiled by five U.N. envoys who interviewed former prisoners, detainees' lawyers and families, and U.S. officials, is the product of an 18-month investigation ordered by the U.N. Commission on Human Rights. The team did not have access to prisoners at Guantanamo Bay.

Nonetheless, its findings - notably a conclusion that the violent force-feeding of hunger strikers, incidents of excessive violence used in transporting prisoners and combinations of interrogation techniques "must be assessed as amounting to torture" - are likely to stoke U.S. and international criticism of the prison.

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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:48 AM
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1. That's funny, I could have sworn that the president recently
reassured us that "We do not torture".
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:50 AM
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3. hmmm.. I heard that too
Bush and Cheney wouldn't lie. Neither would Condi.

So what's up with the Commie U.N.??!!

:sarcasm:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:49 AM
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2. We can already guess the Bush Regime's response
"the US does not torture" (not as they "define" torture)

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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:51 AM
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4. Just another example of corruption and missuse of the UN by
the enemies of democracy.


If bolton hasn't already said it I give the WH about 2 hourse to come out with statements to that effect

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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 11:03 AM
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5. here ya go!
UN inquiry demands immediate closure of Guantanamo

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/02/13/wguan13.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/02/13/ixnewstop.html

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"This shows precisely what is wrong with the United Nations today," said a senior official. "These people are supposed to be undertaking a serious investigation of the facts relating to Guantanamo. "Instead, they deliver a report with a bunch of old allegations from lawyers representing released detainees that are so generalised that you cannot even tell what they are talking about.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 11:17 AM
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6. What I find interesting ........
Edited on Mon Feb-13-06 11:18 AM by PDJane
is that I read this article yesterday in the Telegraph from the UK. The paragraph that is missed in the US reports reads as follows:

A United Nations inquiry has called for the immediate closure of America's Guantanamo Bay detention centre and the prosecution of officers and politicians "up to the highest level" who are accused of torturing detainees.

A telling omission.

http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/02/13/wguan13.xml
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 11:31 AM
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7. indeed, note: "U.S. War Crimes Act of 1996"
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/30/1333214

U.S. War Crimes Act of 1996

Thursday, June 30th, 2005
Fmr. NY Congressmember Holtzman Calls For President Bush and His Senior Staff To Be Held Accountable for Abu Ghraib Torture

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In a newly-published article in The Nation former New York Congressmember Elizabeth Holtzman, who served on the committee that voted to impeach Richard Nixon calls on the public and the press to demand President Bush and his senior White House staff be held accountable for the torture of Abu Ghraib and be prosecuted under the 1996 War Crime Act.
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In the last few months, mainstream human rights groups have been calling for top U.S officials in the Bush administration to be held accountable for the torture and abuse of military prisoners at U.S detention centers around the world. In April, Human Rights Watch demanded that a special prosecutor be named to investigate Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, former CIA director George Tenet and other top officials for possible war crimes related to the abuse. Last month, Amnesty International issued a damning report blasting the Bush administration for ignoring international law and mistreating detainees. The group criticized the Bush administration for failing to carry out a full and independent investigation of the torture at Abu Ghraib and for failing to hold any senior officials accountable.

Well, The Nation magazine is publishing an article in its July 18th issue titled "Torture and Accountability." ** http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20050718&s=holtzman
In the article, the author, former Congressmember Elizabeth Holtzman, writes that there is precedent to hold U.S officials accountable for wrongdoing. She points to public pressure that forced Congress to end the Vietnam war, relentless press coverage of the Watergate scandal which ultimately lead to Nixon's resignation and public demands that led to the independent 9/11 commission.

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And it seems to me that with the terrible scandal, Abu Ghraib, that we need -- we can’t, as they tried in Watergate to do, cut off the investigation at the small fry, at the lowest level. You have to look, and the international law precedence and American law requires it, you look up the chain of command. What I discovered by accident was that -- this is not a concern that I have alone -- President Bush's White House counsel, Alberto Gonzales, himself, who is now the Attorney General of the United States, wrote a memo in January 2002 to President Bush saying one of the reasons we need to opt out of the Geneva Conventions wasn't just because they didn't like the Geneva Conventions because they don't like treaties, but he said, we have to worry about prosecutions under the U.S. War Crimes Act of 1996. That, it turns out, is a federal statute that applies to any U.S. national, military or civilian, high or low, who violates the Geneva Conventions in certain ways. In other words, who engages in murder, torture, or inhuman treatment. And it's not just those who engage in it, it's those who order it or those who, knowing about it, fail to take steps to stop it. That means higher-ups.

JUAN GONZALEZ: This 1996 law is not very well known.

ELIZABETH HOLTZMAN: No. It's totally obscure. I only found out about it because Alberto Gonzales was worried about prosecutions of high level officials under it.

JUAN GONZALEZ: What brought this law about? In other words, was Congress reacting to --

ELIZABETH HOLTZMAN: What happened was in the 1990s, during the, I guess it was the Clinton administration at that time, Congress decided that it wanted to adopt laws to take it into full compliance with its obligations under an international torture statute and an international torture treaty and the Geneva Conventions. And so, it passed two laws. One is a statute making it a U.S. crime to engage in torture. It was passed two years before the 1996 law, and then you have the War Crimes Act of 1996.

And basically, what it does, it makes grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions a federal crime. Got it? Just like kidnapping or interstate burglary or child pornography, it is a federal crime. And the other thing, that's interesting is that it carries the death penalty. If death results from torture or inhuman treatment, then there is a death penalty, and that means there's no statute of limitations. That means that if any high level official violates the War Crimes Act, and somebody died, they can be prosecuted. They are subject to prosecution for the rest of their lives.

AMY GOODMAN: So what did Gonzales do about President Bush?

ELIZABETH HOLTZMAN: What Gonzales did to President Bush, he said, ‘Mr. President, we have got to worry about prosecutions under this statute, and what we can do is we can reduce the possibility of prosecutions by opting out of the Geneva Conventions.’ And guess what. The President opted out of the Geneva Conventions. He followed the advice of Gonzales. And by the way, the same advice was given by Attorney General Ashcroft in a memo to the President, as well, saying that he wanted to make sure that law enforcement officials, intelligence officials and others were not prosecuted under the War Crimes Act. So, here we have two high level U.S. government officials warning President Bush that the War Crimes Act, a U.S. statute, could make high level American officials criminally liable, if they -- unless they opted out of the Geneva Conventions.

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