It's Happening People! The US IS about to become a Dictatorship!

[ck4829]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=401291&mesg_id=401291

People are saying their loyalties lie with Bush rather than the US.

Give us your experiences, what have you heard?

People saying this is the worst thing possible, that means they actively support a Dictator taking over.

Whether you believe that Bush will become an Autocratic Dictator, that the GOP will rule the US like an Oligarchy, or the 'christian' Right will establish a Theocracy, one thing is for sure, it's definitely not tin-foil hat material to believe that the US can become a Dictatorship anymore.

[bullimiami]

1. jesus, of all the creeps to be loyal to. wtf is wrong with these people?

[Warpy]

3. They've got preachers lauding him like he's the second coming

instead of the anticrist, hallelujah! These poor fools are so scared of hell they're ready to believe anything they think will save their precious selves.

[nickinSTL]

12. I'm not an expert...

by any means...but when the antichrist shows up, isn't that exactly what is SUPPOSED to happen?
:shrug:

[Dr. Jones]

15. According to christian theology

the "Rapture of true believers in Jesus Christ" will happen first, then some amount of chaos, and then a new world leader who will offer a plan of peace and security between Israel and the Palestinians and the world at large.

Bush sure does look like the antichrist to me, but if all the Bible prophecy stuff has any truth to it, he's the direct forerunner, not the guy himself. I was referred to Daniel 9:27 as the verse where the Antichrist forms a peace plan.

[EstimatedProphet]

21. That depends on whether you are a pre- or post-Millenialist

The Pre-s believe that the Rapture will happen first. The Post-s believe it will happen after the AntiChrist comes.

I think...

[davekriss]

24. Dr J, hate to tell ya', but the rapture already happened...

...and WE are the left behind!






;)

[Dr. Jones]

16. If you want to know the reason for this

it lies in the unbiblical concept that WE are supposed to form the peace on earth in order to create the conditions for Jesus Christ to return. Since Bush is deadset on changing the Middle East and forming peaceful democracies in that region (yeah RIGHT...), many evangelicals see this as prophecy taking place and the conditions being set for Jesus' return and just rule on earth.

Truth is, my Bible doesn't say that human beings will create peace on earth by our own power. It says that we are all fallen and this world is getting worse until the day Jesus returns to restore this fallen earth.

[Leopolds Ghost]

26. As a radical Lutheran, I'm convinced...

Bush is *something*, I'm not sure what.

I got my eyes on Cheney though. Remember what Mineta said about him in the bunker on 9-11? What were the "orders"? Not to evacuate the White House? Hard to tell. The creepiest thing is that while they seem to desire Armageddon, they are not in fact, particularly religious.

[bullimiami]

29. second coming of . . . . . . . SATAN!

:evilfrown:

[Buns_of_Fire]

30. ...but *sigh* he's just so DREEEEEEEEEEEEEEMEEEEE... *sigh*

...My girlfriend and I stay up NIGHTS thinking up ways to get rid of that old cow Laura (EWWWWW!!!) so we can be with our beloved DUBYA from now until forever and ever!!! *sigh* I bet he's got a really cute butt, too! *blush* My girlfriend even had an autographed PICTURE of him in his flight suit (you know, the one with the BIG BULGE in it! *giggle*), until she lost it. Shhhh, don't tell her that I've got it and keep it under my pillow so I can kiss MY PRINCE CHARMING every nite after everyone else goes to bed! I like my Mummy and Daddy, but I just LUUUUUUUUUUV my sweet DUBYA DUBYA DUBYA! Be My Valentine, you hunka hunka burning love! XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO a million million zillion times FER EVER!!!!!


(I'm sorry. I should have warned you first. My bad. But it's almost like the same people that screamed and fainted and hyperventilated at the airports when the Beatles first arrived in 1964 or so -- or who would later throw their underwear up on the stage for Tom Jones. Or, in my darker moments, like the groupies following Charles Manson.)

[LoKnLoD]

2. of all people

why would someone support dimson as a dictator, blah.

I think it is the money that they love and want to support it. All they have done is milk our Treasury dry.

[bryant69]

4. I'm not sure I see the connection

Between Bush having rabid supporters and us about to become a dictatorship.

The question is how many supporters does he have that place him above the Nation or the Constitution (even one is too many and he has considerably more than one)? Does he have enough that the rest of us are irrelelvant?

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[MuseRider]

5. I'm not getting it either.

An Olympic person? I thought the Senate had taken an oath of Bush** or something. :shrug:

[ck4829]

6. It's what I call the "Populist Dictatorship"

Hitler, Mussolini, Julius Caesar, etc. all came to power in a way much like this.

How many supporters does he have that place him above the Nation or the Constitution?

I'd have to agree with you, one is too many.

[bryant69]

11. Yeah but how many does he need?

And how close is he ot having enough that he can do as he likes without regared to the rest of us?

[ck4829]

14. I don't know

But, I'm already concerned about this.

Whether it's the 'christian' Right saying he's been appointed by God to rule or this guy, it makes me feel very uncomfortable about how the US is doing.

[davikim]

7. are we irrelevant

or is the public just to complacent??

[Yollam]

10. Agreed. One idiot athlete does not a dictatorship make.

Thanks for the breathless post, but Bush has yet to suspend our token democracy...yet. We've only just had our Reichstag fire less than 5 years ago...

[Tulum_Moon]

13. How will he hang onto the presidency?

I have this horrible feeling right around the election something real bad will happen and there will be forces at work to keep him in office. (Remember when Giuliani tried when he was mayor?) The scotus will back him. This wont happen of course if Jeb is running.

[Quakerfriend]

8. I honestly think that he pays ALOT of people to SAY they

support him. We already know that he has paid reporters to espouse his agenda.

And, for ex, everytime there is a major sporting event- The 'lead' athlete makes a very public statement of support for *co.- eg, Curt Shilling, Lance Armstrong, recent olympic skater etc.

See the pattern! It's not just by happenstance!!!!

[MellowOne]

9. Some are dead serious

That he's the anti-christ to take over the world, who knows?

[Dr. Jones]

17. Hey Mellow,

please see my comments above on this topic.

[MellowOne]

28. Somehow I missed your post

Very interesting!

[REDKING]

18. Stolen....

I am thousands of miles away and I can see it.My Father died in 87',all he wanted to do was to get early retirement and tour you're country.I think if he were alive he would not believe what is going on,not just in your home,ours too.What disgusts and saddens me is the way they use you're flag and religion against people to excuse their actions.I grew up in conflict and the same tools are used,Patriotism,religion.One side over the other but we dont have Nuclear,chemical or biological weapons,just guns and bombs which have killed over 3000 people.People have to wake up and wake up soon or this experiment is over.

[Dr. Jones]

19. Hi Redking!

Thank you for your comments. Many Americans share your views. And you are correct, war is justified by patriotism and religion.

The religion side is of interest to me. Generally Bush has hidden behind the Christian religion to morally justify his heinous acts. If you are an atheist who makes war, you are far less likely to be received than if you claim to be a righteous Christian who is morally out for the good of mankind. Hitler claimed to be a Christian too, remember. But these men are not Christians. They do not represent the Christianity Jesus came to introduce to us. So Bush has done more harm to the Christian name than any man since Hitler, in my opinion.

But for those of you who think the Crusades and the current Bush-led wars of choice are initiated by Christians, the fact is, they are not. These men are NOT Christians. Unfortunately, all too many Christians and pastors in this country have fallen into the pro-war trap, essentially claiming that God is pro-war and pro-killing. But they are wrong! In the Christian faith, Jesus is the God of the living! The Prince of PEACE, not the Prince of war.

There was a wonderful post about this on DU just a couple of days ago where the poster lays out in no uncertain terms what the Bible really says about war and peace.

[REDKING]

23. Hello....I have only

been on DU for a short time now and what has scared me the most is the level of fear in peoples posts and to be truthful it really does make me sad.I agree with you when you say they are not christians but its the way the religious leaders just seem to be so blind.Even while I am sitting here on tv there is another story of abuse in Iraq.When does all this end.I believe in God but I dont know who God is.They use the maker for their own personal gain not for the good of people.

[Village Idiot]

20. It's been a dictatorship since 2000.

Didn't you get the memo?

Hitler gained power in 1933 approximately the same way that * did, didn't he? He then passed three acts a) stripped private citizens of their right to privacy, legal representation, lawful assembly and freedom of speech; b) established a UNITARY EXECUTIVE POWER (the Chancellorship) that was beyond oversight by the General Assembly of the Reichstag; and c) outlawed all political parties other than the NSDAP.

Sound familiar? 2008 seems a looooooong ways away, but I think we will see some pretty shifty moves over the next three years in the (faux) name of protecting the National Security of the "Reich."

[KAT119]

22. ALSO:" HOMELAND SECURITY WILL CONTROL OUR SAFETY DEPOSIT BOXES IN A

CRISIS". see www.financialsense.com/editorials/scousen/2006/0201.html. I just removed all valuables and asked the bankperson if it was true and she immediately said "yes, that's right". This was Wells Fargo in northern,AZ. They want our gold,silver and weapons...we can have our papers(maybe)!!!

[davekriss]

25. Chad

To Chad Hedrick's stupid remark, "We're Bush people!", I respond with this:

The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly as necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else.
-- Theodore Roosevelt, 1912

Chad must think Iraqi's welcomed us with roses after the WMD were found... :eyes:

[Leopolds Ghost]

27. You know, I don't see ANYTHING in the post you cite that would suggest

That would indicate anyone, including the Olympic speed skater, "has loyalties lie with Bush and not the US."

I am sure there are right wing fundie snake-worshippers out there who think Bush is the Second Coming, but this ain't an example of that.

All he says is that his family are big Bush supporters, from a small Western town or something. He mentions it in context of how happy he was to get to meet the President and First Lady -- a lot of athletes feel that way. Especially if they were brought up to admire the man.

That doesn't make him some kind of evil nut, tho' the folks he admires may very well be.

So cool down the paranoia, OK?